(313) Genre stasis (was RE: techno)

2004-08-17 Thread Brian 'balistic' Prince
Quoting robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 interesting questions: does techno have to move forward to still be
 techno?

 imo once a genre of music is established then it just goes through
 phases of recycling and incrementally improving/evolving.

 look at rock for example, a lot of the new bands now (say white stripes
 etc) are just tweaking stuff like the stooges. is that bad tho?

 and experimental for experimental's sake just missed the point of
 _dance_ music to me. it still has to have a groove or funk to it.


I'm very much with you here.  I remember when the Model 600 record came out,
there were people who faulted Juan for returning to a mid-eighties aesthetic,
saying it didn't do anything to advance the genre.

So what?  It was a damned good electro record.  It's probably logged more
cruise hours in my car than any other piece of music.

Moving forward strictly for the sake of moving forward often results in the
neglect of ideas that still have room for exploration.

When the old-school Detroit style is worn-out you'll know it, because they'll
start playing it on VH1.


Brian balistic Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno


RE: (313) Genre stasis (was RE: techno)

2004-08-17 Thread Pryor, Ryan N
Moving forward strictly for the sake of moving forward often results in the
neglect of ideas that still have room for exploration.

Exactly!


Re: (313) Genre stasis (was RE: techno)

2004-08-17 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Isn't that creed of moving forward what got drum  bass into the crap
hole it's been in for so long now?
I'm not the most clued in when it comes to what's going on in db but it
seems like people were afraid of sitting still for even a second
just because you revisit an older sound doesn't make you retro or behind
the times.

as far as Model 600 goes - sure the instrumentation might be thought of as
retro but the overall execution was fresh

MEK



   
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Quoting robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 interesting questions: does techno have to move forward to still be
 techno?

 imo once a genre of music is established then it just goes through
 phases of recycling and incrementally improving/evolving.

 look at rock for example, a lot of the new bands now (say white stripes
 etc) are just tweaking stuff like the stooges. is that bad tho?

 and experimental for experimental's sake just missed the point of
 _dance_ music to me. it still has to have a groove or funk to it.


I'm very much with you here.  I remember when the Model 600 record came
out,
there were people who faulted Juan for returning to a mid-eighties
aesthetic,
saying it didn't do anything to advance the genre.

So what?  It was a damned good electro record.  It's probably logged more
cruise hours in my car than any other piece of music.

Moving forward strictly for the sake of moving forward often results in the
neglect of ideas that still have room for exploration.

When the old-school Detroit style is worn-out you'll know it, because
they'll
start playing it on VH1.


Brian balistic Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno





Re: (313) Genre stasis (was RE: techno)

2004-08-17 Thread matt kane's brain

At 11:14 AM 8/17/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Isn't that creed of moving forward what got drum  bass into the crap
hole it's been in for so long now?


It also makes the ILM forum a rather wretched hive of scum and villainy.
--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt kane's brain
http://www.hydrogenproject.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (313) Genre stasis (was RE: techno)

2004-08-17 Thread Martin Dust

Only pawns move forward

~dust

On 17 Aug 2004, at 16:40, matt kane's brain wrote:


At 11:14 AM 8/17/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that creed of moving forward what got drum  bass into the 
crap

hole it's been in for so long now?


It also makes the ILM forum a rather wretched hive of scum and 
villainy.

--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt kane's brain
http://www.hydrogenproject.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]