RE: (313) New WPA record
I guess it's who you know Martin, my last order didn't cost anywhere near $36 :-) G -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: 12 February 2010 21:28 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New WPA record Shame about UPS, £36+ for postage is just too much for one 12 - which is a real shame as I'd love to support UR direct but for that postage I could get into a real tangle in my local :) m
RE: (313) New WPA record
I guess it's who you know Martin, my last order didn't cost anywhere near $36 :-) G -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: 12 February 2010 21:28 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New WPA record Shame about UPS, £36+ for postage is just too much for one 12 - which is a real shame as I'd love to support UR direct but for that postage I could get into a real tangle in my local :) m
Re: (313) New WPA record
On 15 Feb 2010, at 10:22, Williams, Graham wrote: I guess it's who you know Martin, my last order didn't cost anywhere near $36 :-) I guess but that wasn't really my point, in a world where blogs are now serving up 20,000 releases and making more money than the labels/artists getting people to be loyal is a real tough one. m
Re: (313) New WPA record
I personally use USPS all the time (5-10 pieces per day) but Bridgette has her reasons. I've had several items get lost using their international service. 2 were returned to me. Not bad, but they were larger packages and I had to pay additional shipping to get the boxes back. 10 shirts cost me 40 to ship plus 40 to get back along with a 25 customs fee. Bad for business. At least when I ship UPS they make sure my packages make it to their destinationno extra fees. :) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:09 AM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's not. I run a mail-order record business, we still use USPS. We send around a thousand int'l packages a year, to some slightly exotic places. A package goes missing maybe once every two years, and usually it's not entirely clear whether it's even the USPS' fault. International shipments over 4 pounds use a customs form that includes a code that can be tracked through the USPS website. It's been that way for a decade or so. Until last month, shipments under 4 pounds used a much simpler customs form that could not be tracked (at least, not through the website), but they've just gone to more complicated one that I believe can be. Tracking means accountability for any facility or post office where the package disappears. If you have the address right and the customs form right I'd say the chances of USPS losing something are way under 1%. If you have the address or customs form wrong, the package might take a long time to come back to you, but it will..the odds of loss are the same. My biggest beef with USPS right now is with domestic Media Mail shipments, which they have gotten a little over-zealous about opening and checking. Even when the box has fragile written all over it and is insured for hundreds of dollars. Apparently I'm supposed to trust that they will properly repackage everything...not good. JT On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 01:13, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Too many issues shipping with USPS. If you want to take your chances, I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class. :) Is the US postal service that bad? Everything we send seems to get through! m
Re: (313) New WPA record
I think you'll find that UPS and Fedex have their own problems when you've got more experience using them (for instance, they just don't deliver to some surprising places, and failed deliveries lead to bigger messes). USPS, UPS, and Fedex each have their strengths and weaknesses depending on destination. Like I said, USPS now has tracking even for 4 lb packages now, so the chances something will disappear is next to nil. All shipping services have to make their way through customs (after which they are out of USPS hands, and in many cases UPS and Fedex hand things over to local services as well) and there is nothing that makes a USPS package any more subject to long delays or return than the others, AFAIK. Speaking from 44 years of mail order experience (2 generations), sending $1000+ records across the world on a regular basis, so we really, really depend on reliable shipping. I've gotten a handful of personal emails asking what my store is -- I deal in rare 78rpm records, a microcosm, a business I inherited from my dad...I don't deal in electronic music or for that matter anything that goes slower than 78 rpm. JT On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Detroit Techno Militia detroittechnomili...@gmail.com wrote: I personally use USPS all the time (5-10 pieces per day) but Bridgette has her reasons. I've had several items get lost using their international service. 2 were returned to me. Not bad, but they were larger packages and I had to pay additional shipping to get the boxes back. 10 shirts cost me 40 to ship plus 40 to get back along with a 25 customs fee. Bad for business. At least when I ship UPS they make sure my packages make it to their destinationno extra fees. :) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:09 AM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's not. I run a mail-order record business, we still use USPS. We send around a thousand int'l packages a year, to some slightly exotic places. A package goes missing maybe once every two years, and usually it's not entirely clear whether it's even the USPS' fault. International shipments over 4 pounds use a customs form that includes a code that can be tracked through the USPS website. It's been that way for a decade or so. Until last month, shipments under 4 pounds used a much simpler customs form that could not be tracked (at least, not through the website), but they've just gone to more complicated one that I believe can be. Tracking means accountability for any facility or post office where the package disappears. If you have the address right and the customs form right I'd say the chances of USPS losing something are way under 1%. If you have the address or customs form wrong, the package might take a long time to come back to you, but it will..the odds of loss are the same. My biggest beef with USPS right now is with domestic Media Mail shipments, which they have gotten a little over-zealous about opening and checking. Even when the box has fragile written all over it and is insured for hundreds of dollars. Apparently I'm supposed to trust that they will properly repackage everything...not good. JT On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 01:13, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Too many issues shipping with USPS. If you want to take your chances, I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class. :) Is the US postal service that bad? Everything we send seems to get through! m
Re: (313) New WPA record
I've had good luck with USPS internationally, including shipping CDs to soviet union, when there was still such a thing. All bets are off shipping something to India, though. I tried shipping something to my son a few months back when he was in Kottayam, Kerala Province, and it was a comedy of errors -- overnight shipping ended up taking weeks, the US express freight carrier not knowing the local phone # for their India branch, the delivery guy taking the package out and not finding the house*... in the end my son took a rickshaw ride to a creepy industrial neighborhood to pick it up from the shipper's office. *Apparently street names and numbers are a US/Northern European innovation. In Kottayam, your address is your family's name and the nearest post office. Express shippers, unlike the postmen who work a particular neighborhood, don't have the location of every family's house memorized. So unless your package is addressed to a business in town, the delivery guy drives around the neighborhood asking random people on the street if they know where so and so lives. Apparently shipping FROM India is an even bigger adventure, involving hiring a tailor to sew your box into a canvas wrapper and seal the seams with wax, and buying hundreds of small denomination stamps and covering all surfaces of your box with them.
Re: (313) New WPA record
Doesn't bode well for the 12 when 95% of the replies are about the up postal system and the rest about whats contained on the record. Dont mind the flip side though I'm going to be in detroit end of march so ill try [pick it up when i'm out there.. On 12 Feb 2010, at 17:11, kent williams wrote: I've had good luck with USPS internationally, including shipping CDs to soviet union, when there was still such a thing. All bets are off shipping something to India, though. I tried shipping something to my son a few months back when he was in Kottayam, Kerala Province, and it was a comedy of errors -- overnight shipping ended up taking weeks, the US express freight carrier not knowing the local phone # for their India branch, the delivery guy taking the package out and not finding the house*... in the end my son took a rickshaw ride to a creepy industrial neighborhood to pick it up from the shipper's office. *Apparently street names and numbers are a US/Northern European innovation. In Kottayam, your address is your family's name and the nearest post office. Express shippers, unlike the postmen who work a particular neighborhood, don't have the location of every family's house memorized. So unless your package is addressed to a business in town, the delivery guy drives around the neighborhood asking random people on the street if they know where so and so lives. Apparently shipping FROM India is an even bigger adventure, involving hiring a tailor to sew your box into a canvas wrapper and seal the seams with wax, and buying hundreds of small denomination stamps and covering all surfaces of your box with them.
RE: (313) New WPA record
Doesn't bode well for the 12 when 95% of the replies are about the up postal system and the rest about whats contained on the record. Dont mind the flip side though I'm going to be in detroit end of march so ill try [pick it up when i'm out there.. The flip side does sound nice! Can't wait to hear the whole track. Submerge has the Mad Mike O.N.O. remix at a good price too. These with the John Collins record would be a nice order. UPS Ground from Detroit to Chicago is about 10 bones. I am ALWAYS dropping $30 or more to get records from Europe here. Glad to see the tide has turned! ;) _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/
Re: (313) New WPA record
Shame about UPS, £36+ for postage is just too much for one 12 - which is a real shame as I'd love to support UR direct but for that postage I could get into a real tangle in my local :) m
Re: (313) New WPA record
On 11 Feb 2010, at 01:13, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Too many issues shipping with USPS. If you want to take your chances, I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class. :) Is the US postal service that bad? Everything we send seems to get through! m
Re: (313) New WPA record
No, it's not. I run a mail-order record business, we still use USPS. We send around a thousand int'l packages a year, to some slightly exotic places. A package goes missing maybe once every two years, and usually it's not entirely clear whether it's even the USPS' fault. International shipments over 4 pounds use a customs form that includes a code that can be tracked through the USPS website. It's been that way for a decade or so. Until last month, shipments under 4 pounds used a much simpler customs form that could not be tracked (at least, not through the website), but they've just gone to more complicated one that I believe can be. Tracking means accountability for any facility or post office where the package disappears. If you have the address right and the customs form right I'd say the chances of USPS losing something are way under 1%. If you have the address or customs form wrong, the package might take a long time to come back to you, but it will..the odds of loss are the same. My biggest beef with USPS right now is with domestic Media Mail shipments, which they have gotten a little over-zealous about opening and checking. Even when the box has fragile written all over it and is insured for hundreds of dollars. Apparently I'm supposed to trust that they will properly repackage everything...not good. JT On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2010, at 01:13, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: Too many issues shipping with USPS. If you want to take your chances, I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class. :) Is the US postal service that bad? Everything we send seems to get through! m
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Hey Ang, How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage. m On 10 Feb 2010, at 03:02, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: I just received the message from Submerge. There is going to be a new WPA record. Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is going to be mail order only. From her message: WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified. http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=WPA-4UR-079 More music..less talk. Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
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This record and John Collins new one (UR-80) is some hot hot wax been waiting for UR to hit with this sound again. P. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Detroit Techno Militia detroittechnomili...@gmail.com wrote: I just received the message from Submerge. There is going to be a new WPA record. Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is going to be mail order only. From her message: WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified. http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=WPA-4UR-079 More music..less talk. Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
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I can't speak for UR, but I have seen some interesting things happen with USPS when you try to ship international. I have a promo package for CP01 that I sent to RA in Berlin that went from Austin, Texas, to Switzerland, to Germany, to Spain, back to Austin, and then to Portland, Maine. This trip took two months. The only reason I know this is because I have stamps from the different countries on the cardboard mailer. This was the second package that I sent out, the first one just disappeared completely. This happened twice in a row. It costs about 17-20usd to send a package of records over to Europe from the states. That is just the postage, it doesn't include the cost of the merch itself. That can kill your already thin margins if you do a lot of overseas business and lose a few packages a month. Omar S. has the same disclaimer on his website regarding USPS shipping. Take care, mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:01:51 + Subject: Re: (313) New WPA record Hey Ang, How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage. m
Re: (313) New WPA record
Yeah on UR-080 sounds especially nice. - J On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Southern Outpost wrote: This record and John Collins new one (UR-80) is some hot hot wax been waiting for UR to hit with this sound again. P. On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Detroit Techno Militia detroittechnomili...@gmail.com wrote: I just received the message from Submerge. There is going to be a new WPA record. Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is going to be mail order only. From her message: WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified. http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=WPA-4UR-079 More music..less talk. Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
Re: (313) New WPA record
Too many issues shipping with USPS. If you want to take your chances, I'd be more than happy to pick one up for you and send it 1st class. :) Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: Hey Ang, How comes Submerge only use UPS? $36 is a lot of wedge for postage. m On 10 Feb 2010, at 03:02, Detroit Techno Militia wrote: I just received the message from Submerge. There is going to be a new WPA record. Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is going to be mail order only. From her message: WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified. http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=WPA-4UR-079 More music..less talk. Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
(313) New WPA record
I just received the message from Submerge. There is going to be a new WPA record. Bridgette has samples up on the Submerge site and this release is going to be mail order only. From her message: WPA-4UR-079: For those who know, a new WPA release has been identified. http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=WPA-4UR-079 More music..less talk. Angela Schwendemann Label Manager Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com 313-449-8655
