(313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002

2006-03-29 Thread Tristan Watkins
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it's a RIAA/BPI thing, any longer and technically they're in breach of 
licensing or something.


rediculous i know.



You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of say, 3 
seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit differneces set out 
for record shops.


Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer 
samples?


Tristan
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(313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002

2006-03-29 Thread Tristan Watkins
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it's a RIAA/BPI thing,


You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess of 
say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit 
differneces set out for record shops.


Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with longer 
samples?


Juno stick to the 30 second thing too. Some sites don't though as you say.



They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most 
samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and 
occasionally some are longer.


Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30 
second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care.


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Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002

2006-03-29 Thread KiDD*e
I often check excerpts on
http://www.cisco-records.co.jp
http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/style.php?qCate=3qStyle=3-68
They are 1:30 to 2 minutes long.
~ KiDDy.


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 They may have long ago, but not since they launched the new site. Most
 samples are 60 seconds-ish now, although some older ones are shorter, and
 occasionally some are longer.

 Thing is, I can't think of many other sites that actually stick to a 30
 second limit, otherwise I would just assume Juno don't care.

 Tristan
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Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002

2006-03-29 Thread Jason Brunton
I discussed this issue with the head of the MCPS in Scotland a year  
or so ago- the basic deal is that they treat audio clips on websites  
to be essentially a fund raising exercise, ie you are trying to sell  
something (duh!) in the same way a radio station is trying to sell  
something (advertising in their case) when they play music over the  
airways- therfore a license fee is due to artists who's music you  
play in the same way that they get paid if their music gets played on  
the radio or used in a TV transmission.


As far as I remember there is a minimal fee due as long as the  
clips are under 30 seconds and a more substantial (i.e. truly eye  
watering) fee if they are of a longer duration- Juno may either be  
paying the larger fee as they are a pretty substantial organisation  
or they may just be chancing their luck.


Of course, as always with these things, artists from small  
independent labels rarely see any of the cash collected by the  
relevant authorities on their behalf and the vast majority goes to  
Dire Straits, Robbie Williams and the odd bit left over for Tiesto  
and Joey Negro.


cheers

Jason

On 29 Mar 2006, at 15:36, Tristan Watkins wrote:


- Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:23 PM
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) retroactive 002




it's a RIAA/BPI thing, any longer and technically they're in  
breach of licensing or something.


rediculous i know.



You sure? I'd like to see that. I would think any sample in excess  
of say, 3 seconds would be unauthorised unless there are explicit  
differneces set out for record shops.


Meanwhile, anyone know how most other online shops get away with  
longer samples?


Tristan
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