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Hmm, I missed my lift to the car boot sale to look for records so thought I'd check my email. Tom Cox wrote:what exactly has a collecter done to deserve the $$$ they charge for rare records? Well Tom, I used to think the same. But, now I think differently. At the moment, i have no credit card or anything, so I cant buy records off the internet. I get my records from my local shops, car boot etc (although I go farther afield than most looking, I was in bleedin' yorkshire yesterday looking for rare danceable rock items). But, this puts me back to pre 1997 style record hunting. So - I found this guy (or well, my mate did, some 18 months, maybe longer ago). He does a list, once a month. I usually find I'll know about 1/3 - 1/2 of the records he's selling, then the rest are just things I never heard of. How does he find these things? I don't know. From other people, or just plain old checking things out I'd say. What I can say is, I know he puts time and effort into finding pieces. Like serious amounts of time. I am very very happy to pay a small premium for this service. Where else do I get to find out about old things like this? From mixtapes usually, or reading information on the internet or in books, or in old magazines, but theres only so far you can go with that. Also of course, small independant labels from the 70's/80's maybe even didnt get their stuff to england too, so the stuff isn't even there to find - someone has to put you onto it. Some record dealers are more un-scrupulous than others. I happen to have found one that doesn't charge the earth and I'm totally and utterly made up with the service. Yeah sure, theres a premium on some bits, but hell, some of these records I wouldn't even have known about. I spend about £50 a month with him (not alot at all, my friends spend more), and every month I'm hanging out for my package to arrive because I can't wait every month. I even buy some records blind off him because I know if he's spent the time to find it, and he's listing it, its worth checking. I could call him up and he'll play you the records down the phone, but I like surprises. It's a bit different for you Tom because of where you live. Theres better digging to be had over there for sure. Although at some stage you will start to tire of that and realise you're just coming across the same stuff all the time, and you'll be loving a service such as this. Mark my words. Ha hahaa. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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what up existence of echelon is the bomb I look at it as extension of great music home grown here in state with influence of blue and jazz you just cant beat the mood that they creat detroit techno I also like fanon flower stuff as well I think how you define techno can be everybody owned opinion I think all moodyman's music are techno, created by technology filled with soul peace out From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Reply Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:04:10 EST In a message dated 3/9/00 2:12:04 PM, Minimaltek writes: Alan, your opinions are your opinions if you just want to throw stuff on the list and insult people for asking you to go further with your ideas and clarify, be my guest---but interaction and conversation seems like a better platform. Unless you can't back your statements up... First of all, I tried to take this private but you dragged me onto the list. Unlike you, I understand points when people make them. Yes there are great releases from Detroit labels, unfortunately most of the artists with the hits themselves aren't from Detroit and the Detroit artists are not making dancefloor techno. Wild Planet and Aril are from Stockholm (this year's techno capital), Rich is Canadian (who just at the end of 1999 went back to dancefloor material), Shake made one bad-ass hard techno record like two years ago (the NSC one that I did the artwork for), Planet E doesn't make techno anymore, the Detroit Grand Pubahs are on the cover of the Metro Times this week and Aux 88 won *two* Metro Times Music Awards last year. Not to mention last year's big hype on ghettotech in Mixer, Details, Rolling Stone, etc. IT's From Beyond was one of the 90s' best discs according to Spin. So was Innovator, but I don't have to point out that those tracks are all 10+ years old. I haven't heard the new DBX stuff on Elevate, but he seems to be moving in a more abstract direction as well. According to Submerge, they are having big success with these instrumental hip-hop EPs plus their prior success w/ hi-tech funk and booty. Jaguar was out of the blue. Need I go on ? Detroit Techno as it was is over. Times change. No sour grapes, just facts. It's no accident that hard techno guys like Denham and Young have moved to Europe and Mills keeps a crib there. Stewart Walker tells me he's spending most of this summer there because he can barely get booked in the US. New talent like Punisher switch between techno and db. But life goes on. Techno was voted best musical form of 1999 by a Raveline (GER) reader's poll, beating out all other styles of dance music. And that as they say is that. a. PS. I did enjoy RNG's Existence of Echelon on 430 West last year. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Po Chuang: existence of echelon is the bomb I look at it as extension of great music home grown here in state with influence of blue and jazz Yeah, I like this idea. There's an interesting work-in-progress about the evolution of jazz into techno here: http://techno.ca/futurejazz :::: tom churchill : : headspace recordings : : http://www.headspacerecordings.co.uk : ::: e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: ::: t: 07976 898514
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In a message dated 3/9/00 2:12:04 PM, Minimaltek writes: Alan, your opinions are your opinions if you just want to throw stuff on the list and insult people for asking you to go further with your ideas and clarify, be my guest---but interaction and conversation seems like a better platform. Unless you can't back your statements up... First of all, I tried to take this private but you dragged me onto the list. Unlike you, I understand points when people make them. Yes there are great releases from Detroit labels, unfortunately most of the artists with the hits themselves aren't from Detroit and the Detroit artists are not making dancefloor techno. Wild Planet and Aril are from Stockholm (this year's techno capital), Rich is Canadian (who just at the end of 1999 went back to dancefloor material), Shake made one bad-ass hard techno record like two years ago (the NSC one that I did the artwork for), Planet E doesn't make techno anymore, the Detroit Grand Pubahs are on the cover of the Metro Times this week and Aux 88 won *two* Metro Times Music Awards last year. Not to mention last year's big hype on ghettotech in Mixer, Details, Rolling Stone, etc. IT's From Beyond was one of the 90s' best discs according to Spin. So was Innovator, but I don't have to point out that those tracks are all 10+ years old. I haven't heard the new DBX stuff on Elevate, but he seems to be moving in a more abstract direction as well. According to Submerge, they are having big success with these instrumental hip-hop EPs plus their prior success w/ hi-tech funk and booty. Jaguar was out of the blue. Need I go on ? Detroit Techno as it was is over. Times change. No sour grapes, just facts. It's no accident that hard techno guys like Denham and Young have moved to Europe and Mills keeps a crib there. Stewart Walker tells me he's spending most of this summer there because he can barely get booked in the US. New talent like Punisher switch between techno and db. But life goes on. Techno was voted best musical form of 1999 by a Raveline (GER) reader's poll, beating out all other styles of dance music. And that as they say is that. a. PS. I did enjoy RNG's Existence of Echelon on 430 West last year.
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the Detroit Grand Pubahs are on the cover of the Metro Times this week and Aux 88 won *two* Metro Times Music Awards last year. Not to mention last year's big hype on ghettotech in Mixer, Details, Rolling Stone, etc. IT's From Beyond was one of the 90s' best discs according to Spin. Alan, I'm confused about how this attention plays into your arguement. But I'm happy to see Andy (of the Pubas) finally getting a little bit of credit. Check out the article at www.metrotimes.com J. -- Knecht
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the Detroit Grand Pubahs are on the cover of the Metro Times this week and Aux 88 won *two* Metro Times Music Awards last year. Not to mention last year's big hype on ghettotech in Mixer, Details, Rolling Stone, etc. IT's From Beyond was one of the 90s' best discs according to Spin. I'm confused about how this attention plays into your arguement. But I'm happy to see Andy (of the Pubas) finally getting a little bit of credit. Check out the article at www.metrotimes.com I think the point was that the attention being paid to Detroit artists these days focuses on ghetto-tech, house, or electro instead of techno. Bill / dj marathon -- AppNet MidWest Interactive [formerly Sigma6] / http://www.appnet.com now available:http://techno.ca/cognition/show598.htm always on:http://www.chromedecay.org
