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Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!! dave MEK wrote: that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much no? MEK
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wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. I was doing this WAY before it was cool. jeff
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It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] lnoize.com cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 10:25 AM re-post) Wow you just discovered an incredible new way to market classical music!!! dave MEK wrote: that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much no? MEK
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wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
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Ah but I'm putting a twist on it- i'm call this Nü Romantiks MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org omcast.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 12:04 PM re-post) wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
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FASCIST Ah but I'm putting a twist on it- i'm call this Nü Romantiks MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org omcast.net cc: Subject: RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd 06/16/03 12:04 PM re-post) wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. At 10:36 AM 6/16/2003, you wrote: It's the new punk. Anyone have Malcolm McLaren's number? Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) jeff
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On 6/16/03 1:04 PM, The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Back on topic, -- im
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Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Or Atom and the Ants :-) jeff (Dirk isn't the only one wearing white sox)
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I think you're confusing Adam and the Ants with Atom Ant. Atom Ant was a kids cartoon come to think of it so was Adam and the Ants ;) MEK The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] omcast.net cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post) 06/16/03 12:52 PM Nah - it's just another retread. Remember the New Romantics? :-) Let's not dis the New Romantics, now. How else would we have gotten Frequency 7? Or Atom and the Ants :-) jeff (Dirk isn't the only one wearing white sox)
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I think the big irritating thing about the electro revival is that the fashion oriented way people get all concerned about it being a trend in the first place. let me put it this way-there isn't anything stopping the producers, djs, and would be fans of Acid house to go make some acid house records and mixes and parties pretty much whenever. why for a revival to happen this year or next year or any year? go do it! look, I realize I'm a bit of a DJ Smorgasbord, so maybe this won't impress anyone, but I found a really old Acid house record that I was mixing in with my electroclash mix JUST BECAUSE IT SOUNDED GOOD. peep it at about 31-34 minutes in- http://www.bfamilyrecords.com/mixes/meta/extralongshortbusmix.ram you know, acid is just the sound of a 303- a tool for writing music. why does there have to be all this codified fashion crap. whats the big deal if someone where to make an electro track with an acid bassline? oh the horror! p.s. the new Osbourn track Shift in Ghostly/Spectral's State of the Union EP is the phattest retro acid/jackin' track I've heard in forever when the acid kicks in at the break... h -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:08:24 -0400 (EDT) who's to say that the acid house revival has to be the UK version? On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, rob wrote: The big Issue here is are we in a true state of an Acid House Revival. I don't think so and I don't think we've ever seen one!! I love all of the early 80's work i.e. Detroit Techno, Chicago House, New York Garage, Acid and all the other one offs that made up the UK Acid House Scene. That is all I've loved and I don't listen to anything else if I'm honest, cause I don't feel it! I live very close to London have been to Back to 89 parties and have been to where Placid plays real Old Acid Sets. but it is very rare that a club plays old Acid House sets. I also know that in Leeds a small club opened and closed quite quickly cause of poor turn outs for old Acid. Revival means reawakening and there is NO WAY that this beast has opened it's eyes yet!! The other point is just because I/anyone else choose to play Acid House because I love it does not mean that I'm trying to start a revival. I just want to let it be heard to a new generation... if 1000's of them think is the best thing that they have ever heard and start wearing bright coloured hooded tops and pom pom hats, dungarees and timberland and shouting Accciiieeedd!!! at the tops of there voice, and carry it on for a year or two, then maybe. maybe, that's when Acid House will be awake once more! Until then I think it's just being tickled. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... I do hate revivals (sorry) -- it's just because I live in a *constant* state of finding out about music that has been around for ages, and should be celebrated. As a society we are sick with nostalgia, and while it might be good in terms of celebrating artists who genuinely deserve it, I just think revivals are a bit lame. I read a great quote from Mad Mike a few years ago, someone asked him about the electro revival, (now, which one? See?) and he said 'Electro never went away.' I thought 'Too f*ckin right mate.' Anyway, just my opinion! Cheers, Andrew (PS. Is there a swear filter on 313? The last two tries at this didn't work... I know there's been problems lately tho. Maybe the admins need to look at their mailserver?) Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/
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Matt Hellige wrote: [Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]] i guess we agree on this :) i cant wait for the early-to-midnineties-uk-melodictechno-revival! i think it will be a little hard to market though ;) And I can't wait for the Kanzleramt: the early years revival! Revival fever! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... I do hate revivals (sorry) -- it's just because I live in a *constant* state of finding out about music that has been around for ages, and should be celebrated. As a society we are sick with nostalgia, and while it might be good in terms of celebrating artists who genuinely deserve it, I just think revivals are a bit lame. I read a great quote from Mad Mike a few years ago, someone asked him about the electro revival, (now, which one? See?) and he said 'Electro never went away.' I thought 'Too f*ckin right mate.' Anyway, just my opinion! Cheers, Andrew (PS. Is there a swear filter on 313? The last two tries at this didn't work... I know there's been problems lately tho. Maybe the admins need to look at their mailserver?)
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The big Issue here is are we in a true state of an Acid House Revival. I don't think so and I don't think we've ever seen one!! I love all of the early 80's work i.e. Detroit Techno, Chicago House, New York Garage, Acid and all the other one offs that made up the UK Acid House Scene. That is all I've loved and I don't listen to anything else if I'm honest, cause I don't feel it! I live very close to London have been to Back to 89 parties and have been to where Placid plays real Old Acid Sets. but it is very rare that a club plays old Acid House sets. I also know that in Leeds a small club opened and closed quite quickly cause of poor turn outs for old Acid. Revival means reawakening and there is NO WAY that this beast has opened it's eyes yet!! The other point is just because I/anyone else choose to play Acid House because I love it does not mean that I'm trying to start a revival. I just want to let it be heard to a new generation... if 1000's of them think is the best thing that they have ever heard and start wearing bright coloured hooded tops and pom pom hats, dungarees and timberland and shouting Accciiieeedd!!! at the tops of there voice, and carry it on for a year or two, then maybe. maybe, that's when Acid House will be awake once more! Until then I think it's just being tickled. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... I do hate revivals (sorry) -- it's just because I live in a *constant* state of finding out about music that has been around for ages, and should be celebrated. As a society we are sick with nostalgia, and while it might be good in terms of celebrating artists who genuinely deserve it, I just think revivals are a bit lame. I read a great quote from Mad Mike a few years ago, someone asked him about the electro revival, (now, which one? See?) and he said 'Electro never went away.' I thought 'Too f*ckin right mate.' Anyway, just my opinion! Cheers, Andrew (PS. Is there a swear filter on 313? The last two tries at this didn't work... I know there's been problems lately tho. Maybe the admins need to look at their mailserver?)
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That's cool, I guess what I meant was I love HEARING acid house music, but I hate 'official' revivals that the press/style arses get hold of and abuse. I love the old school nights as well, but to be honest I'd hate it if loads of kids started wearing the old kind of dress, I just think 'get a new thing going, you lazy bastards!'. That's not slating anyone either! ;) It's all love. Andrew rob wrote: The big Issue here is are we in a true state of an Acid House Revival. I don't think so and I don't think we've ever seen one!! I love all of the early 80's work i.e. Detroit Techno, Chicago House, New York Garage, Acid and all the other one offs that made up the UK Acid House Scene. That is all I've loved and I don't listen to anything else if I'm honest, cause I don't feel it! I live very close to London have been to Back to 89 parties and have been to where Placid plays real Old Acid Sets. but it is very rare that a club plays old Acid House sets. I also know that in Leeds a small club opened and closed quite quickly cause of poor turn outs for old Acid. Revival means reawakening and there is NO WAY that this beast has opened it's eyes yet!! The other point is just because I/anyone else choose to play Acid House because I love it does not mean that I'm trying to start a revival. I just want to let it be heard to a new generation... if 1000's of them think is the best thing that they have ever heard and start wearing bright coloured hooded tops and pom pom hats, dungarees and timberland and shouting Accciiieeedd!!! at the tops of there voice, and carry it on for a year or two, then maybe. maybe, that's when Acid House will be awake once more! Until then I think it's just being tickled. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... I do hate revivals (sorry) -- it's just because I live in a *constant* state of finding out about music that has been around for ages, and should be celebrated. As a society we are sick with nostalgia, and while it might be good in terms of celebrating artists who genuinely deserve it, I just think revivals are a bit lame. I read a great quote from Mad Mike a few years ago, someone asked him about the electro revival, (now, which one? See?) and he said 'Electro never went away.' I thought 'Too f*ckin right mate.' Anyway, just my opinion! Cheers, Andrew (PS. Is there a swear filter on 313? The last two tries at this didn't work... I know there's been problems lately tho. Maybe the admins need to look at their mailserver?)
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if 1000's of them think is the best thing that they have ever heard and start wearing bright coloured hooded tops and pom pom hats, dungarees and timberland and shouting Accciiieeedd!!! at the tops of there voice, and carry it on for a year or two, then maybe. maybe, that's when Acid House will be awake once more! that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? Imagine if classical music fans did this - wearing powdered wigs and lacy shirts and placing fake birthmarks over their lips. We'd all think it was a bit much no? MEK
RE: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
that's the stupid thing about revivals - it's very contrived, like the recent electro revival of the last several years. Why the fashion and focus on those years? To be into the music, why do people feel that they have to dress up in the fashion of the era it was created in? While revivals get caught up in nostalgia, fashion, etc.. I think the electroclash/new wave revival is in a class of it's own in this regard. Because much of the synth-punk/new-wave scene of the 80's and of today is/was about the insignificance of music (and of everything). fashion becomes sort of a punck-rock statement, and is in many ways as important as the music itself .. at least in theory .. i never gave a crap about anything besides the music, but that's why i'm a music geek instead of a scenester... I think something like acid house isn't as much entwined with any visual aesthetics or fashion (at least in the US scene, maybe different for the UK scene)- it was more about dancing than anything else.. and if an acid house revival means all the lame-asses around here will start dancing again, then bring it on :)!
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[Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED]] and if an acid house revival means all the lame-asses around here will start dancing again, then bring it on :)! AMEN. -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
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who's to say that the acid house revival has to be the UK version? On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, rob wrote: The big Issue here is are we in a true state of an Acid House Revival. I don't think so and I don't think we've ever seen one!! I love all of the early 80's work i.e. Detroit Techno, Chicago House, New York Garage, Acid and all the other one offs that made up the UK Acid House Scene. That is all I've loved and I don't listen to anything else if I'm honest, cause I don't feel it! I live very close to London have been to Back to 89 parties and have been to where Placid plays real Old Acid Sets. but it is very rare that a club plays old Acid House sets. I also know that in Leeds a small club opened and closed quite quickly cause of poor turn outs for old Acid. Revival means reawakening and there is NO WAY that this beast has opened it's eyes yet!! The other point is just because I/anyone else choose to play Acid House because I love it does not mean that I'm trying to start a revival. I just want to let it be heard to a new generation... if 1000's of them think is the best thing that they have ever heard and start wearing bright coloured hooded tops and pom pom hats, dungarees and timberland and shouting Accciiieeedd!!! at the tops of there voice, and carry it on for a year or two, then maybe. maybe, that's when Acid House will be awake once more! Until then I think it's just being tickled. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... I do hate revivals (sorry) -- it's just because I live in a *constant* state of finding out about music that has been around for ages, and should be celebrated. As a society we are sick with nostalgia, and while it might be good in terms of celebrating artists who genuinely deserve it, I just think revivals are a bit lame. I read a great quote from Mad Mike a few years ago, someone asked him about the electro revival, (now, which one? See?) and he said 'Electro never went away.' I thought 'Too f*ckin right mate.' Anyway, just my opinion! Cheers, Andrew (PS. Is there a swear filter on 313? The last two tries at this didn't work... I know there's been problems lately tho. Maybe the admins need to look at their mailserver?)
