Re: (313) record industry (technology)

2002-12-16 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 04:00 PM 12/16/2002, techno wrote:

In the future people are going to be able to purchase 16 it and higher
tracks directly from artist, record label web sites on a secure server.
Record stores and distributors will still be around but mostly for
exclusive, specialty products.


Or else the luddites will arise, smash everything and we'll be jamming in 
skiffle groups.


jeff (still waiting for my 
jet-pack :-)




Re: (313) record industry (technology)

2002-12-16 Thread techno
In the future people are going to be able to purchase 16 it and higher
tracks directly from artist, record label web sites on a secure server.
Record stores and distributors will still be around but mostly for
exclusive, specialty products.

on 12/16/02 3:58 PM, xx xx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Amin.
> and let us hope... they will learn their lesson one day.
> 
> 
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]
>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:47:58 EST
> 
>> 
>> That's where the issue lies. There's not enough musicians who know their
>> business well enough to really know how to move units.  Or willing to cough
>> up the dough to hire a team who does.
>> 
>> pw



Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]

2002-12-16 Thread xx xx

Amin.
and let us hope... they will learn their lesson one day.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:47:58 EST




That's where the issue lies. There's not enough musicians who know their
business well enough to really know how to move units.  Or willing to cough
up the dough to hire a team who does.

pw



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Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]

2002-12-16 Thread Oscillate

In a message dated 12/16/02 3:41:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< No large (or even medium sized?) record labels, just
musicians who know their business. A zillion little rhythmic
CEOs... >>

That's where the issue lies. There's not enough musicians who know their 
business well enough to really know how to move units.  Or willing to cough 
up the dough to hire a team who does.

pw


RE: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]

2002-12-16 Thread Cyborg K
If you are selling CDs now, I think you have to accept you are selling
packaging, pure and simple.  You have to accept that people can find mp3s of
your music for free, and you have to give them a product that is cool enough
that they will want to buy it despite having the mp3s.  Of course some
people will buy CDs from you to support your music, but in general you are
selling packaging.

With vinyl it is a little different.  I'm sure there are plenty of vinyl
freaks like me out there, who just really want to own things on vinyl,
regardless of the availability of mp3s.  In fact, because of mp3s I have
moved to buying vinyl exclusively.  I use mp3s to shop around and find
tracks I want, if I see a track I really like in the store I will then buy
it if it's on vinyl.  In my case, I would spend the same amount of money on
music, as much as I can spare basically.  However mp3's let me make a much
more informed decision.



-Original Message-
From: Jason Hogans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:20 PM
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]


> imho the role of big record companies is played out! with new technologies
> like cd-rw's and final-scratch the need for a physical copy of the
original
> album/cd will quickly decrease.

Mmm Hmm. I've thought about ways to make a physical recording appealing
enough to buy. Maybe even making the recording a secondary item bundled with
something desirable enough to purchase? Limited edition Jason Hogans boxers
and panties. Or some seriously cool packaging, like Radiohead's Amnesiac or
Ghostly's Disco Nouveau.

Humans don't have enough collective integrity (or loot) to buy music simply
on principle. I'm guilty, and I'm an artist. Sad. I do my best to support
others, even if it means listening to webcasts like BBC or Nuwave Radio to
hear decent tunes until I can afford to play catch up with releases.
Regardless of what anybody says, there's too much good music out there for
most people with an average income to purchase everything that they want.

Its crazy competitive right now, almost as many labels as there are artists!
Hey, that's the future. No large (or even medium sized?) record labels, just
musicians who know their business. A zillion little rhythmic
CEOs...Heavy.>>>

JPH.




Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]

2002-12-16 Thread Jason Hogans
> imho the role of big record companies is played out! with new technologies
> like cd-rw's and final-scratch the need for a physical copy of the original
> album/cd will quickly decrease.

Mmm Hmm. I've thought about ways to make a physical recording appealing
enough to buy. Maybe even making the recording a secondary item bundled with
something desirable enough to purchase? Limited edition Jason Hogans boxers
and panties. Or some seriously cool packaging, like Radiohead's Amnesiac or
Ghostly's Disco Nouveau.

Humans don't have enough collective integrity (or loot) to buy music simply
on principle. I'm guilty, and I'm an artist. Sad. I do my best to support
others, even if it means listening to webcasts like BBC or Nuwave Radio to
hear decent tunes until I can afford to play catch up with releases.
Regardless of what anybody says, there's too much good music out there for
most people with an average income to purchase everything that they want.

Its crazy competitive right now, almost as many labels as there are artists!
Hey, that's the future. No large (or even medium sized?) record labels, just
musicians who know their business. A zillion little rhythmic
CEOs...Heavy.>>>

JPH.



Re: (313) record industry (technology) [was: Moby (cheddar)]

2002-12-16 Thread Jason Hogans
> imho the role of big record companies is played out! with new technologies
> like cd-rw's and final-scratch the need for a physical copy of the original
> album/cd will quickly decrease.

Mmm Hmm. I've thought about ways to make a physical recording appealing
enough to buy. Maybe even making the recording a secondary item bundled with
something desirable enough to purchase? Limited edition Jason Hogans boxers
and panties. Or some seriously cool packaging, like Radiohead's Amnesiac or
Ghostly's Disco Nouveau.

Humans don't have enough collective integrity (or loot) to buy music simply
on principle. I'm guilty, and I'm an artist. Sad. I do my best to support
others, even if it means listening to webcasts like BBC or Nuwave Radio to
hear decent tunes until I can afford to play catch up with releases.
Regardless of what anybody says, there's too much good music out there for
most people with an average income to purchase everything that they want.

Its crazy competitive right now, almost as many labels as there are artists!
Hey, that's the future. No large (or even medium sized?) record labels, just
musicians who know their business. A zillion little rhythmic
CEOs...Heavy.>>>

JPH.