Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Or Steel Pulse or Ijahman Levi or Israel Vibration or Burning Spear,etc.,etc... proper dub... no abstract stuff there:) Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- Neil Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << not dub styled >> > > > > What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind > either) > > Dub began as kind of 'remixes' of reggae tracks, > (indeed to this day many > reggae 7"s come w/ reggae version on one side and a > dub on the flip) > often vocals were stripped out almost completely > usually with small > snatches and refrains dropped into the mix > occasionally, the bass is > usually much heavier than reggae. In addition large > amounts of delay are > used to create some really crazy effects (check out > lee perrys 'dub > revolution' which has some insane cuts of vocals > dropping in and out). > > I think Dub is really important in highlighting the > role that the producer > plays in the creation of tracks, as many dub tracks > are credited to both > producer AND musicians rather than the producers > name being hidden > somewhere in the liner notes. > > But from dub roots as an offshoot of reggae the term > has been used in > various ways, for instance a dub of a house track is > genrally the track > minus the vocals (or certainly less vocals). > > Now the term is used to describe stuff such as Basic > Channel, Pole, etc > Bass heavy, with plenty delay effects, this is also > sometimes refered to > as 'digital dub' to avoid confusion w/ trad. dub. > > If you want to check any Old school Dub try > > Lee "Scratch" Perry > King Tubby > Prince Jammy > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
> In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << not dub styled >> > > What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind either) Dub began as kind of 'remixes' of reggae tracks, (indeed to this day many reggae 7"s come w/ reggae version on one side and a dub on the flip) often vocals were stripped out almost completely usually with small snatches and refrains dropped into the mix occasionally, the bass is usually much heavier than reggae. In addition large amounts of delay are used to create some really crazy effects (check out lee perrys 'dub revolution' which has some insane cuts of vocals dropping in and out). I think Dub is really important in highlighting the role that the producer plays in the creation of tracks, as many dub tracks are credited to both producer AND musicians rather than the producers name being hidden somewhere in the liner notes. But from dub roots as an offshoot of reggae the term has been used in various ways, for instance a dub of a house track is genrally the track minus the vocals (or certainly less vocals). Now the term is used to describe stuff such as Basic Channel, Pole, etc Bass heavy, with plenty delay effects, this is also sometimes refered to as 'digital dub' to avoid confusion w/ trad. dub. If you want to check any Old school Dub try Lee "Scratch" Perry King Tubby Prince Jammy
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Oh, and Rampe D records also has a strong dub influence
Frankfurt/Berlin seems to have a strong raggae and dub scene. I know that's
stating the obvious but I've been curious as to why this is so. Is there a
large immigrant population from Trinidad/Jamaica like there is in the UK?
Fred
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:58:39 PDT
Yeah, I second that opinion..anything on ~scape or anything related to BC
or
CR is good dub influenced techno/electronic. Also Nick Rapaccioli's solo
work and his work with Leftfield, and Leftfield's Rhythm & Stealth is
excellent.
Fred
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Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:48:37 EDT
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Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT
Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click
and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've
heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However,
the
NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it
for
the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to
Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements
of
dub music...it doesn't.
If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records
(elektrolux.com)
(check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin
Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records,
anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie
(of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub.
Fred
I recommend Kit Clayton's "Nek Sanalet" album on ~scape (Pole's label).
Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's
signature electronics. Noice.
Jorge
www.mp3.com/milkish
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Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700
I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on
the
313...
DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the "sounds" to be
expected...
Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy,
gut-churning
kind..?
Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the "NUMMER
EEN"
CD comp..?
Me And My Arrow,
J. E. v.F-B. B.
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Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
Yeah, I second that opinion..anything on ~scape or anything related to BC or CR is good dub influenced techno/electronic. Also Nick Rapaccioli's solo work and his work with Leftfield, and Leftfield's Rhythm & Stealth is excellent. Fred From: "Jorge Velez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:48:37 EDT From: "FRED MCMURRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's "Nek Sanalet" album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish ************************ From: "The [Quad]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the "sounds" to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the "NUMMER EEN" CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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From: "FRED MCMURRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:33:43 PDT Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred I recommend Kit Clayton's "Nek Sanalet" album on ~scape (Pole's label). Some very deep dub textures/effects blended with Clayton's signature electronics. Noice. Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: "The [Quad]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the "sounds" to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the "NUMMER EEN" CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Dub records doesn't really do dub music. They are more into the IDM click and clack sounds with ambient melodies underneath. From everything I've heard it's not the super bass heavy sound typical of dub music. However, the NUMMER EEN compilation is excellent..in fact I've been listening to it for the last week nonstop, yes buy it. I've been especially drawn to Funckarama's tracks. But don't confuse dub records with having elements of dub music...it doesn't. If you are looking for dub music go for Elektrolux records (elektrolux.com) (check out Synchromatic Dubsters, Dr. Scissors, Dub Mix Convetion, Jammin Unit), Dubhead records (dubhead.dircon.co.uk), Sountern Dub records, anything by Burnt Freeman, the Bush Chemists, Aramagideon, Sly and Robbie (of course)...this is just scraping the surface of the good dub. Fred From: "The [Quad]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: [313] DUB I massive or minute..? Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 20:00:46 -0700 I've read several artists/releases from this label (DUB) championed on the 313... DURACEL, for one, and yet I have no knowledge of the "sounds" to be expected... Would the dub be of the spacious, minimal-type or maybe the heavy, gut-churning kind..? Better still-can my question be answered with a purchase of the "NUMMER EEN" CD comp..? Me And My Arrow, J. E. v.F-B. B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] DUB I massive or minute..?
In a message dated 7/10/00 10:51:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << not dub styled >> What does dub mean anyway?(not duplicate kind either) reggai or Jamaican
