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On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > OK, this is gonna sound really OT, but does anyone know an artist as in art, > art by name of Mark Robco (sp)? I really need to know for a 313 related > article I am writing up. Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped him and I believe Mills has too. J
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> OK, this is gonna sound really OT, but does anyone know an artist as in art, > art by name of Mark Robco (sp)? I really need to know for a 313 related > article I am writing up. i think you mean mark rothko, the abstract expressionist. mark rothko is identified with the new york school, a group of painters that emerged during the 40s. he worked in a new form of abstract painting. his work is characterized by rigorous attention to formal elements such as color, shape, balance, depth, composition, and scale. - chris christina elaine doerr | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgpkey 9CFC6469
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> Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped > him and I believe Mills has too. anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as a strong influence on consumed. /j
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[jes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and > > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has > > name-dropped > > him and I believe Mills has too. > > anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as > a strong influence on consumed. > yep. but rothko... he da man! i wish i knew more about the visual arts, but i'm just too busy/lazy to find out... i just know that i don't feel particularly emotionally affected by that many paintings, but some of rothko's colorfields really get me! matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
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Not sure how relevant all of these are to detroit techno, but here are some of more recent artists i was looking at in my 4+ years of art school, most are recent enough to be "contemporary" but old enough to have big glossy books published on their work: bill viola - video gary hill - video matthew barney - video/film moriko mori - video tony oursler - video/sculpture mona hatoum - video/sculpture mike kelley - sculpture/painting (went to Univ. of Mich. and is friends w/ sonic youth) charles long - sculpture (did a cool sculpture installation w/ music of stereolab) jessica stockholder - sculpture/mixed media dennis oppenheim - sculpture/mixed media donald judd - minimal sculpture (but wont call it minimal) richard serra - minimal sculpture robert morris - the granddaddy of modern minimalism robert irwin - light based sculpture/installation james turrell - light based sculpture/installation dan flavin - light based sculpture gerhard richter - painter ross bleckner - painter howard hodgkin - painter sure i'm forgetting a lot since i've only been following music lately. i've also always thought that early detroit techno had a lot in common w/ the italian futurist art movement of the 1920's. They had a big manifesto about how art needed to embrace technology and they were always working with themes of industrialization, motion, autos/transportation, time and space. also maybe check out some of the printmaking of max ernst (source of the brinkmann moniker)- thats some pretty crazy stuff. -p On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, jes wrote: > > > Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and > > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has > > name-dropped > > him and I believe Mills has too. > > anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as > a strong influence on consumed. > > /j > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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-Original Message- From: jes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno & Art > >> Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and >> you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped >> him and I believe Mills has too. > >anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as >a strong influence on consumed. In Iowa City, he also encouraged everyone at the Decks F/X and 909 discussion to seek his work out, as in run don't walk. Tristan == PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, "Québécois", online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Yes it is indeed Rothko. My mother is an artist and she is up now so I asked her. Serves me right transcribing tapes when I'm exhausted and stressed out. Thanx! Cyclone >> > Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and >> > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has >> > name-dropped >> > him and I believe Mills has too.
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Hey :) > A discussion on the relationship between Detroit techno and art movements > would be cool, actually. Or has this been done before? It would be > interesting. it's not directly related to detroit techno but there's an exhibition currently on at the NGA called 'techno art'. It's the work of an melbourne based artist, susan cohn. they have electronic music playing throughout the exhibition, which makes sense in that both draw on modern industry as an influence. Cohn has said she likes to use material or objects she sees in everyday modern (industralia) life and create them into pieces of jwelery (bit more besides that but u get the drift). Some of her pieces which are really onteresting are her survival kits; which include a condom, a telephone (tinsy wire piece), a magic pill that will save you but can only b used twice, hearing devices. She also has pieces which take the functional idea of a penciil or a walkman and make them pieces to wear with no function, except to look good. Anodised metal shaped like a walkman, but it doesn't work *grin*. Then there are her works that are fine wires you clamp to your face to help reduce lines or correct unseemly facial expressions, 'braces' for your face. Hmmm... very interesting and close to home for you cyclone. :) emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it-
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Speaking of which, does anyone from the Detroit area remember the two exhibitions that came to mind related to Detroit techno? It was a few years back. One was a show at the now defunct Cement Space Gallery downtown, featuring local artwork influenced by techno music. I missed this one, but did attend the Cranbrook Institute one that showcased flyer art and had live performances. Carl Craig performed a live PA that was experimental. Speakers surrounded the auditorium and different sounds would be coming out of each one, alternating, or doing a surround affect starting from one end and finishing on the other, etc. I thought it was Throbbing Gristle in nature at times. In fact, I was shocked to hear Carl mention that he thought at times he sounded like Throbbing Gristle. Back then, being fairly new to Detroit techno I was shocked he had even listened to them. Just had more respect for Carl, coming from an Industrial/New Wave side of electronic music myself. I remember Carlos Souffront performing and another group whose name escapes me right now. Anyway it was an interesting event and the first time I ever saw Carl Craig perform. mee-thod wrote: > > Hey :) > > > A discussion on the relationship between Detroit techno and art movements > > would be cool, actually. Or has this been done before? It would be > > interesting. > > it's not directly related to detroit techno but there's an exhibition > currently on at the NGA called 'techno art'. It's the work of an melbourne > based artist, susan cohn. > > they have electronic music playing throughout the exhibition, which makes > sense in that both draw on modern industry as an influence. Cohn has said > she likes to use material or objects she sees in everyday modern > (industralia) life and create them into pieces of jwelery (bit more > besides that but u get the drift). Some of her pieces which are really > onteresting are her survival kits; which include a condom, a telephone > (tinsy wire piece), a magic pill that will save you but can only b used > twice, hearing devices. She also has pieces which take the functional idea > of a penciil or a walkman and make them pieces to wear with no function, > except to look good. Anodised metal shaped like a walkman, but it doesn't > work *grin*. Then there are her works that are fine wires you clamp to > your face to help reduce lines or correct unseemly facial expressions, > 'braces' for your face. > > Hmmm... very interesting and close to home for you cyclone. > > :) > > emma > mee-thod > -it's in the way that you groove it- > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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don't forget Rich's own musico-sculpture titled "Simon". modelled (slightly?) after the moving color memory game from the 80's. i've never seen it, but we spoke briefly about it during his DE9 tour stop/q&a session in Iowa City - the q&a tristan referred to re: anish kapoor. hey - dale or craig? you guys get that DV of the q&a session processed yet?? megan and i would like a copy :) cheers! vince - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno & Art > On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > > > OK, this is gonna sound really OT, but does anyone know an artist as in art, > > art by name of Mark Robco (sp)? I really need to know for a 313 related > > article I am writing up. > > Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has name-dropped > him and I believe Mills has too. > > J > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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Mark Rothko? I thought the last Octave One b-side (Untold) reminded me of...I don't know... J.M.W. Turner's storm paintings But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Seth The Electric Press Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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> But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Adobe. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/
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Into this techno related art discussion i would also like to throw chuck close... upon seeing his work, the first thing that i thought (after "wow") was how much it looked like music to me... how the individual pieces containing their own design all come together to make one large image... and from afar it look like on piece, and you don't see all of the pieces until examined more closely... also, the methodology of how most electronic music is created, piece by piece and then assembled to form a whole... also, after becoming paralyzed i think that he had to use some technology to get him around his works or a computer if i remember correctly... the exhibit was a few years ago, so i don't remember the details about the work creation... http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibitions/Close/default.htm if you go to the link and click on techniques, and then oil, you will see a detail of what i mean... i am referring to most of his work since 1986.. also... bill viola would have to be at the top of my list for integrating art and technology... as far as drawing a connection between rothko and techno, to me it seems obvious that the hard shapes and lines and color contrasts have blurred edges, which i think is reflected in the subtlety of a lot of techno... oftentimes the most important part of a song is the subtle one, not the immediate kick or melody, but the slight changes that merge the two into a piece... ok, enough art crap from me... peace, holly
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I think Mondrian and Kandinsky are good representatives, both express links to music and structure, in particular with Kandinsky's theories (see his book, Point and Line to Plane). Much of the Bauhaus artist speak and call for modernism, but are more structured forms. What is great about Bauhaus is that it spoke to several forms from architecture to art to all forms of design. Also look at Futurism which though mainly associated with the visual arts has great manifestos. Though looking back on all these it may seem dated. How about Hans Hoffman, Howard Hodgkin, Jackson Pollock to be a little more now? They are all painters so again it may seem dated for Techno. Alot of these visual elements however have good associations to music. Take a look at Jazz art, especially the stuff for Blue Note (see Blue Notes' book on Jazz cover art). Samy rhythmic reflection of music based on repetition of shape, expressive use of color. But again is it dated? Should we be associating it more with newer media like video and computer graphics? Maybe Nam June Paik, video artist? Personally I don't necessarily feel the 3D computer graphics reflected the music. The stuff I recall from the Mindvision and other video cassettes were cheesy and in my opinion didn't capture the music. It was just decoration. I do however like the snippets I've seen of Jeff Mills videos done by Pilot Pictures (www.pilotpictures.com). These are more in line of what I was thinking of when listening to the music. >>> Hans Veneman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 06/22/00 06:35 AM >>> > But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? Adobe. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think the abstraction when you get within a foot of a Chuck Close portrait certainly could be seen as music. The whole less so because it is more figurative. I think another to check out is Richard Diebenkorn (check http://www.jpmorgan.com/CorpInfo/Sponsorship/Diebenkorn/) with his Ocean Park series, figurative in reference, but abstract in reprsentation. Again structure and rhythm. I also think of the San Francisco Bay Figurative Art, like David Park. Alot of their paintings were abstract figurative works revolving around jazz clubs and musicians. To bring it back local, what about Diego Rivera's work at the Detroit Institute of Arts. Working class. The DEMF poster (was done by a local artist I believe) art has elements of futurism/cubism done in a Diego Rivera theme. It's all about movement. >>> "Holly C MacDonald-Korth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 06/22/00 10:41 AM >>> Into this techno related art discussion i would also like to throw chuck close... upon seeing his work, the first thing that i thought (after "wow") was how much it looked like music to me... how the individual pieces containing their own design all come together to make one large image... and from afar it look like on piece, and you don't see all of the pieces until examined more closely... also, the methodology of how most electronic music is created, piece by piece and then assembled to form a whole... also, after becoming paralyzed i think that he had to use some technology to get him around his works or a computer if i remember correctly... the exhibit was a few years ago, so i don't remember the details about the work creation... http://www.seattleartmuseum.org/Exhibitions/Close/default.htm if you go to the link and click on techniques, and then oil, you will see a detail of what i mean... i am referring to most of his work since 1986.. also... bill viola would have to be at the top of my list for integrating art and technology... as far as drawing a connection between rothko and techno, to me it seems obvious that the hard shapes and lines and color contrasts have blurred edges, which i think is reflected in the subtlety of a lot of techno... oftentimes the most important part of a song is the subtle one, not the immediate kick or melody, but the slight changes that merge the two into a piece... ok, enough art crap from me... peace, holly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> But really, who is the most techno artist? Mondrian? Kandinsky? bill viola
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> I think Mondrian and Kandinsky are good representatives, both express >links to music and structure, in particular with Kandinsky's theories >(see his book, Point and Line to Plane). Kandinsky was a russian artist but the russians hated him because they were all gung-ho proletariet socialists and had really strong opinions about what should be considered art (i.e. suprematist and constructivist movements fronted by kasmir maleavich). Kandinsky was into more expressionist stuff that the russians considered totally frivolous, so he ended up spending most of his life in germany. But what I thought was coolest thing about his work was trying to capture music and sound in painting. he also did some work with russian comoposer Alexander Scriabin. Scriabin had some really interesting ideas and for a while was trying to create music that crossed the human senses. sounds that invoked a sense of color rather than sound- i.e. controlled synesthesia. he also started a project to build a big color organ that played lights along w/notes - like from the end of Close Encounters movie except some 50 years earlier. I'm not even all that familiar w/ his music, but he had some really interesting ideas and theories- would recommend looking him up sometime. -p
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Alexander Calder pieces are amazing, especially the large mobiles. The stabiles have less of an effect of me but the way that the mobiles occupy space and are constantly in motion. However, the one artist doing it for me right now is the architect Frank O. Gehry who designed the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao. The structures he creates have such flow and life to them and they reflect (in form) and play/interact with the surrounding environment. Check out the Guggenheim website: http://www.guggenheim-bilbao.es/ingles/edificio/el_edificio.htm Below is a copy of the description from said site. "The building itself is an extraordinary combination of interconnecting shapes. Orthogonal blocks in limestone contrast with curved and bent forms covered in titanium. Glass curtain walls provide the building with the light and transparency it needs. Owing to their mathematical complexity, the sinuous stone, glass, and titanium curves were designed with the aid of computers. The glass walls were made and installed to protect the works of art from heat and radiation. The half-millimeter thick "fish-scale" titanium panels covering most of the building are guaranteed to last one hundred years. As a whole, Gehry's design creates a spectacular, eminently visible structure that has the presence of a huge sculpture set against the backdrop of the city." I've been inside some of his structures and they are wonderful. I'd love to live in a house designed by him. Which brings me to this: ARCHITETTURA mixed media installation (film+music+architecture) a caipirinha productions presentation a travelling architettura installation makes its way around the globe. it features four short films in between live soundscapes by caipirinha musicians. in addition, during the musicians performances, we project slides of contemporary architecture and design donated to us by the architects themselves. this exhibition takes the architettura multimedia project one step further in its investigation of contemporary architecture and electronic music. the 'architettura' installation can be found at museums, cultural centers, art galleries, architecture universities, and film and music centers around the world such as walker art center in minneapolis, the substation in singapore, the ny moma, artsonje in korea, the lux in portugal, and at the brooklyn anchorage. Here are the dates AUG 26&27/00 TAIPEI TAIWAN - GOLDEN HORSE FESTIVAL presentation of caipirinha films including 'modulations', 'synthetic pleasures', 'an autumn wind' and 'architettura' films as well as live performances by architettura' musicians. AUG 17-22/00 SINGAPORE - THE SUBSTATION presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by 'architettura' musicians. JULY 29&31/00 MINNEAPOLIS, MN - WALKER ART CENTER presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by david toop, taylor deupree & savvas ysatis, & panacea JULY19-23/00 BRAZIL TOUR - BRASILIA 40TH ANNIVERSARY FESTIVAL / BRAZIL 500TH ANNIVERSARY installations in RIO, SAO PAULO, BELO HORIZONTE, and THE PAMPULHA MUSEUM IN DIAMNTINA designed by oscar niemeyer. presentation of 'architettura' films bu iara lee as well as live performances by taylor deupree & savvas ysatis, panacea, and steve roden and visual presentation on contemporary architecture. JUNE 7/00 MONTREAL, CANADA - EX- CENTRIS - MUTEK MUSIC FESTIVAL presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by taylor deupree & savvas ysatis, & panacea MAY 26-27/00 SEOUL, KOREA - ARTSONJE festival of korean american artists. presentation of 'architettura' films as well as live performances by taylor deupree MAY 25/00 NEW YORK CITY- DOCOMOMO panel discussion: BRASILIA 2000: The Modern City includes a special presentation of the 'architettura' films and 'architettura' music. co-sponsored and hosted by the America's Society in their landmark 1909 McKim Mead and White building at 680 Park Avenue. RSVP MAY 19/00 SAN FRANCISCO MOMA and blasthaus present "FORMULA" featuring "Architettura" with a presentation of the 'architettura' films by iara lee as well as live performances by sound track, steve roden, and datach'i and visual presentation on contemporary architecture. APRIL 20/00 NEW YORK, NY - BRASILIA RELEASE PARTY club void. debut of 'monumental minimalism' and performance by panacea and taylor deupree FEB 8/00 STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPI - 'SONIC CIRCUITS VII' mississippi state university. screening of 'architettura' film 'enclosed nature' as well as toyo ito's tower of winds slide presentation set to music. DEC 9-12 / 99 FLORENCE, ITALY - IMAGE / international festival for architecture in video. presentation of 'architettura' films SEPT 29/00 LOS ANGELES, CA - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTURE creening of 'architettura' films and lecture by iara lee. JUNE 30 /99 NEW YORK, NY - MOMA NY caipirinha musicians, taylor deupree, unit and datach'i play live at m
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-Original Message- From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Roberto Ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ""[EMAIL PROTECTED]"@SOM.gwia " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno & Art >Scriabin had some really interesting ideas and for a while was trying to >create music that crossed the human senses. sounds that invoked a sense of >color rather than sound- i.e. controlled synesthesia. Colors from sounds = Phonopsia. I couldn't resist. :) Synesthesia does not specify a specific relationship between the senses, other than their mixture, whereas phonopsia is the phenomenon we would all be most interested in probably. Tristan == PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger New Album, "Québécois", online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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This past fall a photographer named Stan Douglas had an exhibit at the Art Gallery of Windsor entitled "Le Detroit". It was basically a retrospective of famous and not-so-famous ruins and abandoned buildings in Detroit. The photographs were accompanied by a short black and white film taken in the old train station, with a soundtrack done by Carl Craig...definitely made me a bit misty-eyed. Interestingly, it also coincided with a small exhibit of artwork by Matthew Hawtin - very simple pieces of single colours and symmetrical lines, but the square canvases were warped into odd shapes. Like alot of the music Matthew (and sometimes his brother) plays, simple yet somehow just bit off...in a good way, of course. Did anyone else in the Windsor/Detroit area see these? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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In a message dated 23/06/00 3:13:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Kandinsky was a russian artist but the russians hated him because they > were all gung-ho proletariet socialists and had really strong opinions > about what should be considered art (i.e. suprematist and constructivist > movements fronted by kasmir maleavich). Kandinsky was into more > expressionist stuff that the russians considered totally frivolous, so he > ended up spending most of his life in germany. But what I thought was > coolest thing about his work was trying to capture music and sound in > painting. he also did some work with russian comoposer Alexander Scriabin. > Scriabin had some really interesting ideas and for a while was trying to > create music that crossed the human senses. sounds that invoked a sense of > color rather than sound- i.e. controlled synesthesia. he also started a > project to build a big color organ that played lights along w/notes - > like from the end of Close Encounters movie except some 50 years earlier. > I'm not even all that familiar w/ his music, but he had some really > interesting ideas and theories- would recommend looking him up sometime. > Agreed. Malevich and Kandinsky for me reflect quite a lot of the vision of techno music, as denoted by the Futurist and Suprematists work. Some of the colour schemes and minimalism in these works are just amazing; one can see the parralels of rejection by mainstream culture - almost that which at the same time is a recurring theme in the wider appreciation of techno music. Speaking about music/ sound / synaesthesia in art forms, I have been personally working with a local (ex-Russian) computer animator called Illya Nikolai who does some equally amazing and unprecedented computer art which I think is the epitomy of any digitally-related animation/ art. Broadcasting locally here on an independent TV station Channel 31 but soon to take on all areas of the often cheesy world of techno-related computer animation. If you think all those X-Mix videos were alright, multiply the scope by 3 zeros and you get what I mean. Check it out, downloads and all. Any electronic artists or labels that might be interested in putting out some music on Illya's DVM trademark format (music on a DVD which is also CD-Rom compatible), you can get in touch with me personally for more details. http://www.liquidmusic.com.au/ Cheers, A_Zed _ Program Co-ordinator, Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 Sunday Electronic Listening [http://rtrfm.ii.net] Perth, W.Aust (WST) 23.00-01.00 Detroit (EST) 10.00-12.00 Frankfurt (CET)/ London(GMT)16.00-18.00
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on 6/21/00 6:24 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, this is gonna sound really OT, but does anyone know an artist as in art, > art by name of Mark Robco (sp)? I really need to know for a 313 related > article I am writing up. Not at all sure if this helps but you might mean Mark Rothko. http://www.nga.gov/feature/rothko/rothkosplash.html I'd love to see how you relate this to 313. Rothko's stuff is dope. -- There4IM
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Two spaces that come to immediate mind are the now defunkt Critical Space ... Critical hosted numorous young,talented Detroit artists -both experimental and traditional- and DJs. SK-1 (tad mullinex-SP?) had a >residency there and so did Jerry Abstrakt. Though the nights were never >packed, it was still a very cool place to hang out,hear music and see >art and meet the artists. Ghost 2000 showed alot of work there as well, >his art is incredible if you haven't seen it. Though the people who >laid down the influence, those who continue it should be recognized and >given the correct forum to do so. The space was also host to one or two >parties for MotorMouthMagazine. Ohhh diana::. You make me weep. How I miss those days soo. The memory lives on when you go to the corner of winder and orleans. its all on the walls, the graffiti, the footsteps, the flyers, tristan getting held up by an AK-47, the girl getting her purse snatched, the many conversations that I had with the police to try and convince them nothing was going on... I think we helped detroit, but the revolution of experimentation needs to go on. perhaps its time to be reborn? ~signed ex critical creator ::create : recreate : alter::: ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info:: t: 313.850.7345 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Hey, I wish I'd seen this Stan Douglas exhibit. Those interested in a brief _Metro Times_ article and a smattering of photographs should go to: http://209.69.221.136/20/15/Features/artDire.htm. For a brief piece on Carl Craig's role, see Andrew Duke's http://techno.ca/cognition/npeoct29.htm. Does anyone know if there's still a way to see Douglas' photos and film? Thanks, Carissa, for mentioning this. dms >This past fall a photographer named Stan Douglas had an exhibit at the Art >Gallery of Windsor entitled "Le Detroit". It was basically a retrospective >of famous and not-so-famous ruins and abandoned buildings in Detroit. > >The photographs were accompanied by a short black and white film taken in >the old train station, with a soundtrack done by Carl Craig...definitely >made me a bit misty-eyed. > >Interestingly, it also coincided with a small exhibit of artwork by Matthew >Hawtin - very simple pieces of single colours and symmetrical lines, but the >square canvases were warped into odd shapes. Like alot of the music Matthew >(and sometimes his brother) plays, simple yet somehow just bit off...in a >good way, of course. > >Did anyone else in the Windsor/Detroit area see these? > > > > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.msu.edu/user/sherid16
Re: [313] Detroit Techno&Art (Spaces)
critical DOES live on, of course... tadd is very sucsessful with his music, as synthetic and detronik have keep the videoartmusic flame burning. i just attended tristen eatons latest art show at the CBGB gallery in new york. and all the other countless people who visited 1551 winder, came away inspired, and gone onto create. spaces like critcal are important in keeping an ongoing dialouge about art and music in detroitkeep your eyes and ears open peoples, critcal will resurface. until then, you can have a listen to many of the artists who performed at critical on my new record label -critical recordings. of course critical lives on...no tears micho. meighen fitzhenry critical detroit and as for the police, they loved us! they used to come and hang out and dig on the music...they would visit us at least once a week. such nice guys...;) From: "synthetic detronik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Detroit Techno&Art (Spaces) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:14:24 GMT Two spaces that come to immediate mind are the now defunkt Critical Space ... Critical hosted numorous young,talented Detroit artists -both experimental and traditional- and DJs. SK-1 (tad mullinex-SP?) had a >residency there and so did Jerry Abstrakt. Though the nights were never >packed, it was still a very cool place to hang out,hear music and see >art and meet the artists. Ghost 2000 showed alot of work there as well, >his art is incredible if you haven't seen it. Though the people who >laid down the influence, those who continue it should be recognized and >given the correct forum to do so. The space was also host to one or two >parties for MotorMouthMagazine. Ohhh diana::. You make me weep. How I miss those days soo. The memory lives on when you go to the corner of winder and orleans. its all on the walls, the graffiti, the footsteps, the flyers, tristan getting held up by an AK-47, the girl getting her purse snatched, the many conversations that I had with the police to try and convince them nothing was going on... I think we helped detroit, but the revolution of experimentation needs to go on. perhaps its time to be reborn? ~signed ex critical creator ::create : recreate : alter::: ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info:: t: 313.850.7345 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
