Re: [313] Good artist steals?
hmmm, I can understand it in one sense but didn't he sample Chic and Marvin
Gaye etc..
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From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [313] Good artist steals?
The polemical utterances of dead white male intellectuals/poets have their
place, but give me the home truths of living black musicians anyday,
thanks.
Moodymann's props (+ controversial words of advice to those like m***y)
from 1997 tell it like it really is: to all the unknown artists,
producers and djs from around the globe, believe it or not, you're the
ones keeping it live and real, all of the older brothers and sisters that
are musicians that have never really made a dime but have more talent than
most of the people in the business, and to all you white suburban kids,
sampling black music all the time, try some rock 'n roll for a change,
you're making black music sound silly, weak and tired and most of all a
stranger.
Wes {still reeling from a phenomenal performance by Octave One/RNG on Sat.
nite. Thank you, Burden brothers...such sweet tinnitus! :-)}
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RE: [313] Good artist steals?
one of my fav music quotes is Sad in the 20th century, in the 1990s, we still have to go thru the same bullshit route that other artists had to go to get acceptance. If it wasnt for the independents, if it wasnt for the small little cities, and the few little ghetto guys trying to make music, it would of never happened. Some of these guys will never make a dime. Some of these guys will be poor and die alone. But in the process theve been the true rengrades. And the true rebel always walks alone anyway. which i !think! is Derrick May sampled (from a tv doc) on E-Z Rollers - Retro on Moving Shadow. Though Ive never had this confirmed, could anyone shed any light on this. + Also - one good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain - Marley + -Original Message- From: Charles Prince [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The polemical utterances of dead white male intellectuals/poets have their place, but give me the home truths of living black musicians anyday, thanks. Moodymann's props (+ controversial words of advice to those like m***y) from 1997 tell it like it really is: to all the unknown artists, producers and djs from around the globe, believe it or not, you're the ones keeping it live and real, all of the older brothers and sisters that are musicians that have never really made a dime but have more talent than most of the people in the business, and to all you white suburban kids, sampling black music all the time, try some rock 'n roll for a change, you're making black music sound silly, weak and tired and most of all a stranger.
RE: [313] Good artist steals?
one of my fav music quotes is Sad in the 20th century, in the 1990s, we still have to go thru the same bullshit route that other artists had to go to get acceptance. If it wasnt for the independents, if it wasnt for the small little cities, and the few little ghetto guys trying to make music, it would of never happened. Some of these guys will never make a dime. Some of these guys will be poor and die alone. But in the process theve been the true rengrades. And the true rebel always walks alone anyway. which i !think! is Derrick May sampled (from a tv doc) on E-Z Rollers - Retro on Moving Shadow. Though Ive never had this confirmed, could anyone shed any light on this. That's Derrick May sampled from the last episode of 'Dancing in the Street' from the BBC. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Good artist steals?
on 4/2/01 5:27 PM, j3s at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the original quote (by TS Eliot) is a bad poet imitates, a good poet steals. And I think the implication is that, instead of copying an artist you like a lot, you go ahead and rip off whatever he or she did, then actually GO somewhere with it. It's kind of like get over trying to be 'original,' everything's been done, just try to do it better. ...one of the fundamental ideas behind postmodernism. next question is, where do we go from here? Nowhere, life's a loop.
Re: [313] Good artist steals?
Okay...I need an explanation for using a T.S. Eliot quote to support pomo ideology - or at least some kind of understanding of what discipline it is in which you feel you can make the application that it does. While I understand the sort of dialectical 'chain of events' which led to pomo theory in Lit. Crit, Eliot himself basically WAS New Criticism - a subset of Formalism - and is a far cry from things normally associated (e.g., post-structuralism, etc) with pomo. Just looking for understanding here, not one-upsmanship. You can hit me off list. Oh - for that obligatory on topic tag, let me suggest that the scuttlebutt about the new Rush Hour compilation is true. It's all that. Just got mine today and 7 tracks in, this is just fine fine stuff with enough interesting touches and influences to confuse category freaks. To my ears it works in 313, techno, IDM and maybe a few more. j3s wrote: Actually, the original quote (by TS Eliot) is a bad poet imitates, a good poet steals. And I think the implication is that, instead of copying an artist you like a lot, you go ahead and rip off whatever he or she did, then actually GO somewhere with it. It's kind of like get over trying to be 'original,' everything's been done, just try to do it better. ...one of the fundamental ideas behind postmodernism. next question is, where do we go from here? /j - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- jeff ?/~THINK OUTSIDE OF YOUR SITCOM~\! ICQ904008 (but I'm never on) http://www.freedonation.com (costs you nothing. try it)
