RE: [313] LTT-Innerzone

2000-09-21 Thread Diana Potts
wow. Im sure you've been flamed out of the water by some of the ppl on here, 
so ill try and come at this from a more, explanatory place.but in the end, 
your opinion is your own-and you are entitled.
First, Innerzone just isn't Carl Craig playing Prince and running around 
playing all the intstruments.Its a collective of very talented musicians 
(ie.Francisco Mora Catlett-drums etc.-whose World Trade Center should of 
recieved a lot more attention IMHO). If you have had the opportunity to see 
them live, I think you'd understand this  them more.In addition an 
understand to how a traditional jazz ensemble works.
Secondly, it isn't just the _music_ of Innerzone, but what they did _for 
music_. IMHO, what Programmed did-and what Carl has done with all his 
projects, I believe-is bring back awareness to the important element of jazz 
music  the influence its had. Its like Innerzone Orchestra served as a 
reminder. It brought alot of techno heads, who really hadn't been exposed to 
much jazz, attention to jazz-especially the less traditional sort. Its like 
people could listen to Innerzone, and because Carl was a part of it, start 
linking in their minds the history trail and how much each correlate. (Ive 
said before on here that the social history of jazz much paralells to the 
social history of techno)
So on that note, i digress and say that I do not love every single song on 
Programmed, but I am a big fan of Planet E as a whole,Innerzone, the label's 
idealogoy and Carl's music-solo and otherwise. I think without that presence 
there would be a gap not yet filled.


But even if you don't like Innerzone's music, at least appreciate what they 
have done _for_ the musicI hope I've made myself understood when i say 
that



anybody got an IV for caffeine?
diana



 i might be going on a limb here.. when i first heard
 of innerzone orchestra,
 i thought to myself, 'ok, it's carl craig, trying to
 do some free-formish
 electronic jazz oriented music.. i need to get
 this..' being a HUGE fan of
 tortoise and isotope 217, both from chicago, i
 figured that innerzone
 orchestra was just what i needed.. i find much of
 the innerzone orchestra
 material to be boring and repetitive.. isotope 217
 especially, [tortoise not
 so much because they aren't as electronically based,
 except for the
 phenomenal remixes cd] blows carl craig out of the
 water when it comes to
 the jazz/electronic fusion idea.. this thought was
 even shared by a close
 friend of mine who was into craig many years before
 i was, and who is also a
 big tortoise/isotope 217 fan.. call us northern
 michigan kids crazy, if you
 will.. carl craig hasn't ever really done all that
 much for me, anyway.. but
 what do i know.. i've only been into the detroit
 techno scene for a year..
 ;)

 - sarah


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RE: [313] LTT-Innerzone

2000-09-21 Thread Dr. Nick Riviera


will.. carl craig hasn't ever really done all that
 much for me, anyway.. but
 what do i know.. i've only been into the detroit
 techno scene for a year..


yup. i think that about sums it up.

Kyeo
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Re: [313] LTT-Innerzone

2000-09-21 Thread Fiveorange
how so you feel that the social history of jazz and techno are similar???


Re: [313] LTT-Innerzone

2000-09-21 Thread Diana Potts


i took this response to a private response :)


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Subject: Re: [313] LTT-Innerzone
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:27:51 EDT

how so you feel that the social history of jazz and techno are similar???


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