Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-18 Thread berislav oremus
>Oh yeah, what a great idea - by the way, is it me or does Moby owe his
>success to the black artists he sampled ? and another question : could
>someone give me the real name of the guys behind Drexciya ? are they the
>ones behind Ultradyne ?
>Gwendal
>
i dont see here connection between moby and i dont know what is your
problem, i  just wanted to say, that you can compare maurizio (maurizio as m
series)with aphex twin , and you can always put aphex to intelligent(come to
daddy or richard james album). on this two examples there is moments but
they are not even close to "i care because you do", "selected ambient
works", "polygon window"

is it clearer or you need more .


b.




RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-18 Thread Gwendal Cobert
> maybe because its not intelligent techno, but we can talk
> also about how
> "intelligent" richard is.
Oh yeah, what a great idea - by the way, is it me or does Moby owe his
success to the black artists he sampled ? and another question : could
someone give me the real name of the guys behind Drexciya ? are they the
ones behind Ultradyne ?
Gwendal



Re: [313] Revenge of the Nerds - Was [Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).]

2001-04-18 Thread Michael Kim


yeah, it's too hard to recommend stuff on cd though.  more limited 
selection.


Mike


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Subject: [313] Revenge of the Nerds - Was [Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, 
what next (+track ID).]

Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:38:22 -0400

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> Well, I heard some Kit Clayton samples as well as
> Monolake.  I can't say I'm compelled to buy any of
> their stuff.  It sounds too experimental to me right
> now.  Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound
> experimental.  They don't sound like intelligent
> techno.  They don't resemble Aphex Twin.
>
> I know quite a few people like monolake and kit
> claytonthe latest Clayton CD was much different
> than what I've heard in the past.  I remember he had
> some good stuff on the Organized Noise comp CD, but
> his stuff from the Nek Sanelet sounded different.  I'm
> not saying it's all that bad, it's not what I want
> now.

Both of them are very diverse producers. Monolake has not made a lot of
straight dance tracks ever, but my favorite of his dancier stuff is Tangent
and some of the stuff on Hong Kong. Can't believe I forgot to mention
Monolake... Kit clayton has some stuff that's more on the minimal tip - not
as noisey or ambient. Moles and Avacadoes on Background is his closest to
the Maurizio sound in terms of dubbiness but really more in the world of
minimal techno. I love his live ambience too, but I think it's better 
suited

to the context of his live sets, where he really shines IMO. I wish he'd
release a live CD. His betalounge set from October is still doing it for 
me,

especially the 2nd half of it once he gets through the noise. Seeing him
live on the Formless Form tour was a real treat.

For more of a beat treatment from these two, check out the Revenge of the
Nerds set at http://www.monolake.de which is the two of them live. You can
also hear most of Monolake's output including Tangent.

I fail to see the Aphex Twin comparison.

> If only the Maurizio-type producers would start making
> tracks again, that would be awesome.  I want to hear a
> bunch of that stuff, I'd like to have more than 5
> hours worth.

They have been making new tracks. Check out the new Rythm & Sound that was
posted last week when it comes out. They've been making tracks this whole
time, just slowly. Also check Deep Chord for quality stuff that's pretty
similar (not to re-hash that debate).

Anyone else notice "Psion" on the "thedrivehome" trailer? Wonder if that'll
get corrected...

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Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-18 Thread berislav oremus
Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound
>experimental.  They don't sound like intelligent
>techno.  They don't resemble Aphex Twin.


maybe because its not intelligent techno, but we can talk also about how
"intelligent" richard is.




Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-18 Thread berislav oremus
Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound
>experimental.  They don't sound like intelligent
>techno.  They don't resemble Aphex Twin.


maybe because its not intelligent techno, but we can talk also about how
"intelligent" richard is.




Revenge of the Nerds - Was [Re: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).]

2001-04-18 Thread Phonopsia
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From: "meta elpH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).


> Well, I heard some Kit Clayton samples as well as
> Monolake.  I can't say I'm compelled to buy any of
> their stuff.  It sounds too experimental to me right
> now.  Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound
> experimental.  They don't sound like intelligent
> techno.  They don't resemble Aphex Twin.
>
> I know quite a few people like monolake and kit
> claytonthe latest Clayton CD was much different
> than what I've heard in the past.  I remember he had
> some good stuff on the Organized Noise comp CD, but
> his stuff from the Nek Sanelet sounded different.  I'm
> not saying it's all that bad, it's not what I want
> now.

Both of them are very diverse producers. Monolake has not made a lot of
straight dance tracks ever, but my favorite of his dancier stuff is Tangent
and some of the stuff on Hong Kong. Can't believe I forgot to mention
Monolake... Kit clayton has some stuff that's more on the minimal tip - not
as noisey or ambient. Moles and Avacadoes on Background is his closest to
the Maurizio sound in terms of dubbiness but really more in the world of
minimal techno. I love his live ambience too, but I think it's better suited
to the context of his live sets, where he really shines IMO. I wish he'd
release a live CD. His betalounge set from October is still doing it for me,
especially the 2nd half of it once he gets through the noise. Seeing him
live on the Formless Form tour was a real treat.

For more of a beat treatment from these two, check out the Revenge of the
Nerds set at http://www.monolake.de which is the two of them live. You can
also hear most of Monolake's output including Tangent.

I fail to see the Aphex Twin comparison.

> If only the Maurizio-type producers would start making
> tracks again, that would be awesome.  I want to hear a
> bunch of that stuff, I'd like to have more than 5
> hours worth.

They have been making new tracks. Check out the new Rythm & Sound that was
posted last week when it comes out. They've been making tracks this whole
time, just slowly. Also check Deep Chord for quality stuff that's pretty
similar (not to re-hash that debate).

Anyone else notice "Psion" on the "thedrivehome" trailer? Wonder if that'll
get corrected...

Tristan
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RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-18 Thread meta elpH
Subject: RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next
(+track ID).
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>kit clayton, monolake for starters.

Well, I heard some Kit Clayton samples as well as
Monolake.  I can't say I'm compelled to buy any of
their stuff.  It sounds too experimental to me right
now.  Whereas Maurizio, Vainqueur don't sound
experimental.  They don't sound like intelligent
techno.  They don't resemble Aphex Twin.

I know quite a few people like monolake and kit
claytonthe latest Clayton CD was much different
than what I've heard in the past.  I remember he had
some good stuff on the Organized Noise comp CD, but
his stuff from the Nek Sanelet sounded different.  I'm
not saying it's all that bad, it's not what I want
now.

If only the Maurizio-type producers would start making
tracks again, that would be awesome.  I want to hear a
bunch of that stuff, I'd like to have more than 5
hours worth.  There are some clones.  One guy, Dick
Richards, has an mp3 out called Output 1-2.  It sounds
like Maurizio's lost track.  I love it!  Here's the
mp3:

http://www.notype.com/drones/singles/043/mp3/043-2-dick_richards-output_1-2.mp3

Also, where is the id for

http://mp3.techno.cz/djsets/mary-techhouse/Track11.mp3

at 2 minutes into this mp3, the song i'm interested in
emerges. (the 1st part is Maurizio) 


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RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-17 Thread Michael Kim


kit clayton, monolake for starters.


From: "Gwendal Cobert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:38:31 +0200

> Let me say that I like the Maurizio, Vainqueur, and
> Deepchord CDs I have.  The Delay Product CD fits in
> well with these guys too.  But what next?  I seriously
> feel like there is more, but I can't seem to find it.
> I've listened to a bunch of the Chain Reaction CDs
> listed at groovetech, but I like only a few.  Can
> anyone point me to what they consider great examples
> of the maurizio/vainqueur/deepchord/delay_product
> sound?
Stefan Betke (correct me if I'm wrong) goes by the name of Pole and is
Mauritz von Oswald's follower... released a quantity of EPs and 3
magnificent LPs, the first (blue) may be the best, the third (yellow) the
easier to approach... He runs the ~scape label, where Kit Clayton released
his Nek Sanalek LP. I also tend to classify along the Chain Reaction people
the Sabres of Paradise stuff - they'd be somewhere between electro and CR
sound, maybe you should have a listen to Haunted Dancehall (on WARP)
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RE: [313] Some cds I ordered, what next (+track ID).

2001-04-17 Thread Gwendal Cobert
> Let me say that I like the Maurizio, Vainqueur, and
> Deepchord CDs I have.  The Delay Product CD fits in
> well with these guys too.  But what next?  I seriously
> feel like there is more, but I can't seem to find it.
> I've listened to a bunch of the Chain Reaction CDs
> listed at groovetech, but I like only a few.  Can
> anyone point me to what they consider great examples
> of the maurizio/vainqueur/deepchord/delay_product
> sound?
Stefan Betke (correct me if I'm wrong) goes by the name of Pole and is
Mauritz von Oswald's follower... released a quantity of EPs and 3
magnificent LPs, the first (blue) may be the best, the third (yellow) the
easier to approach... He runs the ~scape label, where Kit Clayton released
his Nek Sanalek LP. I also tend to classify along the Chain Reaction people
the Sabres of Paradise stuff - they'd be somewhere between electro and CR
sound, maybe you should have a listen to Haunted Dancehall (on WARP)
Gwendal