RE: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-21 Thread Gwendal Cobert
> > I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of
> the original 3
> members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the
> original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since
> the other 2
> members split and started Plaid.
what's wrong with the Virtual EP ? it was excellent stuff, judging from the
titles that made it onto the GPR compilation CD...

> Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split.
> IMO, the early
> stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems.
> Compare those earlier
> albums to "Not For Threes" or "Music for Adverts and Short
> Films" and they
> got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For
> Adverts has as good
> a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the
> best. Any one
> track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece.
Music for adverts was made by Ken alone ? didn't know that... certainly a
great album ! some tracks do stand perfectly well on their own, though, like
the one about Allan Poe.
Gwendal


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Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-21 Thread Super Coffee Beans
there are some people (like my GF) who thinks that after the split plaid
people has lost their touch. i don`t think so, i really adore black dog for
making ground breaking music,but plaid music is very very good one too. i
really like alot of their stuff.
kind regards
y
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> > I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original
3
> members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the
> original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2
> members split and started Plaid.
> >
>
> Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early
> stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those
earlier
> albums to "Not For Threes" or "Music for Adverts and Short Films" and they
> got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as
good
> a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any
one
> track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece.
>
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Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-21 Thread Phonopsia
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> I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3
members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the
original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2
members split and started Plaid.
>

Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early
stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those earlier
albums to "Not For Threes" or "Music for Adverts and Short Films" and they
got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as good
a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any one
track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece.

Tristan
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Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-20 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 09:46 AM 2/20/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33
doesn't say more than:
"Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002

The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black 
Sifichi.."


What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog?
Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice...
Cheers,

Anya


It most certainly IS TBD. Here's a snip from Ken Himself  from email volley 
betwixt he and myself a few months back :


...I'm still out herestill making a difference.
After "unsavoury products" there will be another new album.
(due out in about 'the spring' of 2002, i think). the tunes are
done, and it all just needs finalising...etc...etc.
Regards,
Ken
--
The Black Dog



There you have it. Not only the Dukebox record, but yet another - and , 
hopefully, soon.


jeff


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Re: [313] theblackdog.

2002-02-20 Thread Stephen Kelly

stewart wrote:


I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the
original 3 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley
touching the original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)
since the other 2 members split and started Plaid.


i'm speaking up 'cause it would seem ken always gets the rough end of the 
stick - it would be just as easy to say that andy and ed haven't written 
anything remotely touching the original BDP stuff since the split..


credit ken for sticking to what he believes in - i might not buy the album 
either, ken has certainly changed direction musically - but there's no need 
to diss the guy publicly for that..


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RE: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-20 Thread John Bush
> who hasn't released anything
> remotley touching the original
> Black Dog Productions stuff

Sure, his "solo" LP doesn't sound like the stuff BDP was doing seven years
earlier, but it's still excellent...especially recommended for those into
Byrne/Eno Fourth World-type collage.

John


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Re: [313] theblackdog (unsavoury products)

2002-02-20 Thread Jussi Lehtonen
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 
> 3 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the 
> original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2 
> members split and started Plaid.

More disinformation available at

http://www.dogsquad.com/

and (linked to)

http://www.unsavouryproducts.com




J

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Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-20 Thread stewart
I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3 
members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the original 
Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2 members split 
and started Plaid.

Stewart
> 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 16:46 CET
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
> 
> http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33
> doesn't say more than:
> "Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002
> 
> The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black 
> Sifichi.."
> 
> What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog?
> Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice...
> Cheers,
> 
> Anya
> 
> > From: "Nikky Stoltzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 15:37 GMT
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> > <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
> > 
> > Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly
> > mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back...
> > 
> > N
> > 
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> > 
> > Black Dog as in THE Black Dog?
> > 
> > 
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM
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> > 
> > 
> > > I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two...
> > > BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ?
> > > Gwendal
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[313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)

2002-02-20 Thread Anya
http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33
doesn't say more than:
"Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002

The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black 
Sifichi.."

What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog?
Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice...
Cheers,

Anya

> From: "Nikky Stoltzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 15:37 GMT
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>   <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
> 
> Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly
> mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back...
> 
> N
> 
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> 
> Black Dog as in THE Black Dog?
> 
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
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> > I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two...
> > BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ?
> > Gwendal

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