Re: [313]Detroit breadbutter

2000-08-10 Thread Revaron
In a message dated 09/08/00 22:26:05 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 to say that Detroit is in a slump or
  letting people down etc...etc.. is not only an insult to those
  African/American artists whose music changed the world, but also slaps 
them 
 in
  the face by now saying the white artist from overseas are now better!

If you are trying to avoid racism, then why make this statement?  Why would 
it be an insult and a slap in the face to african american artists if a white 
artist from overseas is supposedly better than them?  Not only are you making 
it black vs. white, but your making it America vs. Europe as well!  Sounds 
like a big load of crap if you ask me...

Aaron


[313]Detroit breadbutter

2000-08-09 Thread Wv909
For the record :
   the original email was in no way ment to incite racisim or from a
racist standpoint
But also for the record :
   The orig. thread re: avant guarde techno...all of the artists mentioned as
being avant are white!...and to say that Detroit is in a slump or
letting people down etc...etc.. is not only an insult to those
African/American artists whose music changed the world, but also slaps them in
the face by now saying the white artist from overseas are now better!
Attention: Kraftwerk are amazing artists and have a style solely their own
(my point here...)..{oh yeah what would you call expo 2000...)
 but Detroits techno influences albeit with a dab of Kraftwerk are mostly
other Black musicains/artistscan we say Pfunk or George Clinton?
Take for instantance ..Jimmy Hendrix, for those who appericate/understand
what he did, realize : though he had many influences ..his own music was 
solely his own ..no one played ,produced , or had his style ..his music was
not a copy of his influences...thats what made him Hendrix
The truth convicts those who aren't within it..techno is not just a form of
music but an ideal ! Take all your lekabush's ,corolla's and even Cox's
and compare them to the innovaters ..the regular guys from Detroit who did it
from their basements in mostly Ghetto(an overused and misunderstood word)
areas with limited resorces and most importantly they did it without selling
their soul to an record label/company .
see [313] Prince speaks for more of the truth
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Re: [313]Detroit breadbutter

2000-08-09 Thread James Bucknell


maybe i'm not a very percpetive person, but when i'm on the dancefloor, i can't
tell whether the music i'm dancing to is made by a black person, a white person,
or a chicken that was left in the studio.
i can't even tell what city or country the music was made in.
but i can remeber the lyrics of a song that used to get played years ago--
'brothers, sisters, one day we'll walk hand in hand to the promised land'.
james





For the record :
   the original email was in no way ment to incite racisim or from a
racist standpoint
But also for the record :
   The orig. thread re: avant guarde techno...all of the artists mentioned as
being avant are white!...and to say that Detroit is in a slump or
letting people down etc...etc.. is not only an insult to those
African/American artists whose music changed the world, but also slaps them in
the face by now saying the white artist from overseas are now better!
Attention: Kraftwerk are amazing artists and have a style solely their own
(my point here...)..{oh yeah what would you call expo 2000...)
 but Detroits techno influences albeit with a dab of Kraftwerk are mostly
other Black musicains/artistscan we say Pfunk or George Clinton?
Take for instantance ..Jimmy Hendrix, for those who appericate/understand
what he did, realize : though he had many influences ..his own music was
solely his own ..no one played ,produced , or had his style ..his music was
not a copy of his influences...thats what made him Hendrix
The truth convicts those who aren't within it..techno is not just a form of
music but an ideal ! Take all your lekabush's ,corolla's and even Cox's
and compare them to the innovaters ..the regular guys from Detroit who did it
from their basements in mostly Ghetto(an overused and misunderstood word)
areas with limited resorces and most importantly they did it without selling
their soul to an record label/company .
see [313] Prince speaks for more of the truth
~PEACE unto you all



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Re: [313]Detroit breadbutter

2000-08-09 Thread peter mueller

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Take all your lekabush's ,corolla's and even Cox's
and compare them to the innovaters ..

i think it is impossible to compare them, all of the above mentioned artists
are somehow unique, their work is the result of their influences and of
course they had other influences  and live or lived in environments that are
different than these of people in detroit.
everything that characterizes you as a person is what your environment, your
experiences have made you to be. and of course, once the wheel is invented,
you can't invent it for a second time, you can only try to develop it in a
certain way, so in my opinion it often only seems that people copy something
(well, sometimes at least)