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I wasn't trying to imply that Juan and Rick are suing anyone. My thought was fairly incomplete now that I've re-read my post. Let me fill in the blanks: If Missy and company had cleared the sample, then no worries there; someone got paid, just don't know if it would be Juan and Rick or not. If the sample has not been cleared (you'd be suprised how often this happens these days), then there would most likely be some form of litigation to get payment on it's useage. If it goes to court and the plaintiff named is Cybotron, then Rick and Juan will have to come together as Cybotron in order to file a lawsuit. This is exactly what happened when Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam was sued by Main Source over her uncleared sample of Main Source's Looking At the Front Door. The group had broken up prior to the lawsuit, but had to come together as Main Source in order to file suit. Hope that clarifies my thoughts. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:03 PM To: 313 Cc: George Jones IV - Logic7 Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear On May 11, 2005, at 2:42 PM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This might be something I watch a bit closely since Rick Davis still uses the Cybotron name. Could there be a lawsuit filed to draw the two back together as Cybotron? What lawsuit? people, people.. all this wild-eyed speculation of lawsuits... who said Missy Co. used it without negotiating rights to use? Unless somebody knows for sure, there's no need to speculate ill will that someone was ripped off here (well, ripped off monetarily, ha). Rather than invent drama why don't we just wait for some news, if there even is any, that something here is rotten. I personally think there's every reason to think whoever wrote performed the original will have some rights to some portion of profits made on the Missy track. Missy is a HUGE artist on a major label where sample clearance has been paramount for well over a decade on releases like this. It's not some shady white label bass record of 700 copies. At labels that size there are small armies of folks whose sole job it is just negotiating sample usage rights for artists who use such huge chunks of landmark tracks. So much in new hip-hop and RB is based on samples of obviously recognizable songs, thus the booming cottage industry of entertainment lawyers drafting up contracts based on acceptable use and drawing up terms of contracts in various ways to pay the original artists/labels. Of course there are exceptions but this is pretty obvious territory. It's not like a subtle snippet of Clear was used... the backing track *IS* Clear! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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-- Original Message -- From: George Jones IV - Logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Missy and company had cleared the sample, then no worries there; someone got paid, just don't know if it would be Juan and Rick or not. If the sample has not been cleared (you'd be suprised how often this happens these days) that sample for addictive (that joint with one of those r+b chicks and rakim from a couple summers ago) was taken illegally, they had to sue to get money for that. This is exactly what happened when Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam was sued by Main Source over her uncleared sample of Main Source's Looking At the Front Door. what track of hers used a main source sample? (for some more 313 relevance, recloose also jacked a bit from the same track in i cant take it [the and i dont know if i can take it any more bit that he scratches in]. great classic track, in case youve never heard it...) tomm andythepooh.com
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This is exactly what happened when Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam was sued by Main Source over her uncleared sample of Main Source's Looking At the Front Door. what track of hers used a main source sample? Let The Beat Hit 'Em - It pretty much jacked everything except the rhymes if memory serves me right (anyone want to d/l both songs from p2p and do an a/b comparison?). (for some more 313 relevance, recloose also jacked a bit from the same track in i cant take it [the and i dont know if i can take it any more bit that he scratches in]. great classic track, in case youve never heard it...) tomm andythepooh.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although Clear is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer. You're right on Timbaland and his comments (some don't accept that he is ignorant, however, just pretending not to have heard any electronic music), but Chad of the Neptunes is v familiar with electronic music - his roots lie in that scene as much as hip-hop. He played in a proto rave outfit years back. He went to college with Bryan Zentz and is on his last Intec album playing sax. He's also v familiar with Detroit techno and can name names. At 03:07 PM 5/11/2005, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: You should have actually visited the site, this song was not produced by The Neptunes Timbaland is not part of the Neptunes, but both are passe this week, so it's probably someone new. Don't give up yet - Pharrell is working on a solo album and probably saving his best beats for that. I think Timbaland was never the same after the passing of his muse, Aaliyah. I would recommend you guys check out Ultimate Aaliyah, a new comp which shows how their work stands the test of time. It's worth it to get the lesser known song I Am Music - v When Doves Cry. Interestingly Missy Elliott has cut a song with the Neptunes on her new album Cook Book. At the moment Kanye is the defining RB producer, with Rich Harrison pretty hot. Harrison comes out of the DC go-go scene and has produced the current hit I Thing for Amerie and also did Crazy In Love for Beyonce. Also Richard X has done great future RB/hip-hop for Annie, MIA and that dude from Organized Konfusion whose name is escaping me this sec. ;)
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-- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the moment Kanye is the defining RB producer, with Rich Harrison pretty hot. Harrison comes out of the DC go-go scene and has produced the current hit I Thing for Amerie and also did Crazy In Love for Beyonce. dont forget that new j-lo cut with the insane horn loop. that guy is rocking some ill sample based production, stuff on mainstream records that underground hiphop heads are even rocking out to. i dont think ive met a single person who doesnt like 1 thing. tom andythepooh.com
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George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 did sir mix a lot ever pay any money for his use of channel one's technicolor on baby got back? andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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On 11-mei-2005, at 21:07, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: You should have actually visited the site, this song was not produced by The Neptunes Damn you keyboard! I meant was produced by the Neptunes, typo On 11-mei-2005, at 21:01, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although Clear is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer.
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At 10:01 am +1000 12/5/05, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Chad of the Neptunes is v familiar with electronic music - his roots lie in that scene as much as hip-hop. He played in a proto rave outfit years back. He went to college with Bryan Zentz and is on his last Intec album playing sax. He's also v familiar with Detroit techno and can name names. a number of names, or just a couple? sorry, I'll get my coat...
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I like that cut too but being an animal lover and supporter of WWF I have dropped her name from my vocab! ;) Sometimes it's best to keep it faux, not real! ;) Rich Harrison was meant to work on the last Duran Duran album Astronaut but John Taylor said he wasn't right for them or something and it didn't work out - they worked with Dallas Austin and others instead. Would love to know the specifics! dont forget that new j-lo cut with the insane horn loop. that guy is rocking some ill sample based production, stuff on mainstream records that underground hiphop heads are even rocking out to. i dont think ive met a single person who doesnt like 1 thing.
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-Original Message- dont forget that new j-lo cut with the insane horn loop. that guy is rocking some ill sample based production, stuff on mainstream records that underground hiphop heads are even rocking out to. i dont think ive met a single person who doesnt like 1 thing. tom Now you have. 1 Thing is AWFUL! That horn loop was overused as-is and I can think of only one song that used it well: Low Profile's The Beat Is Dope (Low Profile was W.C. and DJ Alladin, only released one album). Anyways, I figured it was only a matter of time before someone sampled a Detroit Techno track for use in hip-hop. Next we're gonna hear a loop from Strings of Life on a 50 Cent album... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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That was Truth Hurts - and DJ Quik produced it. Cool song. I first heard that in Detroit on the radio. She left Aftermath after and went v MOR. Great singer, but. that sample for addictive (that joint with one of those r+b chicks and rakim from a couple summers ago) was taken illegally, they had to sue to get money for that.
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Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: On 11-mei-2005, at 21:07, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: You should have actually visited the site, this song was not produced by The Neptunes Damn you keyboard! I meant was produced by the Neptunes, typo On 11-mei-2005, at 21:01, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although Clear is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer. The reading I did had the Clear-sampling Lose Control produced by Missy and On On produced by The Neptunes. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 5/12/2005
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This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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As should Les Rythmes Digitales - the vocal is from his Music Makes You Lose Control track MEK George Jones IV - Logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Matt MacQueen 05/11/05 01:21 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Cybotron - Clear This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although Clear is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:08 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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You should have actually visited the site, this song was not produced by The Neptunes On 11-mei-2005, at 21:01, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: And Timberland has been quoted as saying that he doesn't listen to electronic dance music. Although Clear is as much apart of Hip-Hop history as Techno, I wonder if they even know that song is from a Techno Pioneer. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:08 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. On May 11, 2005, at 11:21 AM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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At 03:07 PM 5/11/2005, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: You should have actually visited the site, this song was not produced by The Neptunes Timbaland is not part of the Neptunes, but both are passe this week, so it's probably someone new. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:11 PM To: George Jones IV - Logic7 Cc: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. On May 11, 2005, at 11:21 AM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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At 03:17 PM 5/11/2005, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? Clear was originally released on Fantasy like most of the other Cybotron stuff. I would imagine that Cybotron still has songwriting credit on the tracks though, so they might get some coin for that. -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? No. It was released on Fantasy Records. Quite big label on rock/jazz.. I have no idea how the rights are split between Atkins, Davies and Fantasy. sakke
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Thanks for the info. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? No. It was released on Fantasy Records. Quite big label on rock/jazz.. I have no idea how the rights are split between Atkins, Davies and Fantasy. sakke
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This might be something I watch a bit closely since Rick Davis still uses the Cybotron name. Could there be a lawsuit filed to draw the two back together as Cybotron? Something similar happened when Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam sampled a Main Source tune and the group had to come together again in order to file a lawsuit. -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:29 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? No. It was released on Fantasy Records. Quite big label on rock/jazz.. I have no idea how the rights are split between Atkins, Davies and Fantasy. sakke -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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i think that was hot streak (and i think dj hyperactive did a version before the below). i'm chuffed i've recently found that out as i always wondered where hyperactive got that sample... robin... As should Les Rythmes Digitales - the vocal is from his Music Makes You Lose Control track MEK
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On May 11, 2005, at 2:42 PM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This might be something I watch a bit closely since Rick Davis still uses the Cybotron name. Could there be a lawsuit filed to draw the two back together as Cybotron? What lawsuit? people, people.. all this wild-eyed speculation of lawsuits... who said Missy Co. used it without negotiating rights to use? Unless somebody knows for sure, there's no need to speculate ill will that someone was ripped off here (well, ripped off monetarily, ha). Rather than invent drama why don't we just wait for some news, if there even is any, that something here is rotten. I personally think there's every reason to think whoever wrote performed the original will have some rights to some portion of profits made on the Missy track. Missy is a HUGE artist on a major label where sample clearance has been paramount for well over a decade on releases like this. It's not some shady white label bass record of 700 copies. At labels that size there are small armies of folks whose sole job it is just negotiating sample usage rights for artists who use such huge chunks of landmark tracks. So much in new hip-hop and RB is based on samples of obviously recognizable songs, thus the booming cottage industry of entertainment lawyers drafting up contracts based on acceptable use and drawing up terms of contracts in various ways to pay the original artists/labels. Of course there are exceptions but this is pretty obvious territory. It's not like a subtle snippet of Clear was used... the backing track *IS* Clear! Something similar happened when Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam sampled a Main Source tune and the group had to come together again in order to file a lawsuit. Let's hope all this lawsuit talk is unnecessary... jeez. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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what i'm supposing he is that maybe he sold the rights. i'm pretty sure when that comp cd came out a while ago he didn't even know about it. On May 11, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:11 PM To: George Jones IV - Logic7 Cc: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. On May 11, 2005, at 11:21 AM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
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the rights are owned by Deep Space Music c/o Fantasy Inc Juan Atkins and Richard Davis are listed as songwriters if it's a favored nation licensed deal then whatever the publishers get - the writers would get the same amount MEK Garrett McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 05/11/05 03:31 PM Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear what i'm supposing he is that maybe he sold the rights. i'm pretty sure when that comp cd came out a while ago he didn't even know about it. On May 11, 2005, at 12:17 PM, Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. Why would that be? Didn't he release it on his own label way back in the day? Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:11 PM To: George Jones IV - Logic7 Cc: Matt MacQueen; 313 Subject: Re: (313) Cybotron - Clear except that it's somewhat likely he no longer own any rights to it. On May 11, 2005, at 11:21 AM, George Jones IV - Logic7 wrote: This is the new single. I've heard it a few times on the radio already. I thought the same thing; Juan should pick up a nice piece of change for that sample. -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:08 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Cybotron - Clear sorry if this is old news to everyone, but a friend brought this to my attention http://www.missy-elliott.com - loops on a preview site for an album out end of June once the page loads, lose control should start playing... juan should make some big coin from that, if it's the single? Track still gives me chills... -- MM http://sonicsunset.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
