RE: (313) Re: Jaguar
I would like to make some people choose to keep control over there own music of it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] If memory serves me correctly a major label did offer to sign jaguar with the possibility of remixes but UR and DJ Rolando declined. That track could have easily climbed the Billboard dance charts giving Detroit techno more exposure in America but some people choose to stay underground. on 5/5/03 3:26 PM, Sean Creen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This simply isn't true. Jaguar was milked for all it was worth. It got a hell of a lot of publicity out of the whole Sony thing, had a promo video made, and Rolando got serious juice in terms of gigs (where he played the track multiple times, plus a lot of other much more commercial tracks than had previously been in his sets) out of all of this. None of this is to excuse what Sony tried to do, or to dis how UR dealt with the situation, but to say that it could have blown up if Rolando had chosen to let it is pure bullshit (IMO, of course ;-). Sean. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) Re: Jaguar
If memory serves me correctly a major label did offer to sign jaguar with the possibility of remixes but UR and DJ Rolando declined. Maybe because they already planned a re-release with major remixers, in full colour sleeve, with major distribution, etc?
Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
just on a subliminal tangent on da video 187 da radio star tip, did anyone see the model500 clip from a couple of years back - the one where juan does tha red october thing, and emerges from the sea in a sexy wetsuit, while some photogenic wannabes playin' da role? just d-typed my memorythe road from detroit to coventry iz a long one. bond.james bond. - Original Message - From: Nick Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:00 PM Subject: [313] Re: Jaguar Video Hi, No sweat about your post. All views are valid... I was actually the one who posted that commercial music is what the public is fed, underground music we have to SEEK OUT to find, a need of a certain kind of people... thing. I have very strong feelings about music... In fact I share your views in a way. I saw the new Jaguar release in HMV the other day... Made me kind of upset. This tune has been an anthem for everything we stand for, the passion, the power, our love against commercialism. It stood for everything, when the remixes came out I was really quite emotional. I seem to associate charty commercial dance with all the people I hate and all the things that have hurt me. There will be kids into trancy cheese going out and buying this, not understanding exactly what it means to us... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) after reading my post, i disagree with most of what i said too... i wish i could take it back, but too many people have read it and responded to it, oh well. i guess what i meant to say was i just didn't want to see too many of the 'wrong' fans in this... i think one of the coolest things about going to a good techno party or even a good techno club is that the majority of the people understand it's about the music, and not the glory/image/popularity. the majority of people who listen to underground music have this appreciation for the music like no other. i think Jaguar has the huge potential to bring new listeners in of all different backgrounds and musical tastes, it has something to satisfy everybody. i don't think it will necessarily be a bad thing to show it on TV, but i also don't think it will necessarily be a bad thing for it NOT to show on TV. i guess that was more of what i was trying to say. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
What I've found with people who aren't into techno with Jaguar is most enjoy it. I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks to my friends in Florida and many of them enjoy this track. Some just start asking questions like what is this genre. Some think its music to sophisticated for them. One of my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought he should be drinking a martini to it. Others just beg to barrow it and the remixes or even to buy it of me but of course I refuse. You can't contain something that is that good. Yes there will be people who will not respect the track as many of us will, but to those who start asking questions because they heard it and then grow to respect and love the music we all do thats great. If they don't truly like the music than it will pass. They will listen to it for a while and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds that they don't listen to anymore and they will forget about it. If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage music I would be glad someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by lets say Sonique or Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers. Maybe Jaguar will reach my brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to the mainstream trash rap or reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by those boy bands and their music they don't make. As much as I don't like Jaguar being broadcasted on MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good that can come from it. -Stacey
Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
Most ppl within 10 miles who has heard my techno rekkids hate all of them except my Technasia stuff... No class at all... You have to be a bit more mature I think to understand good music... It comes natural to me but a lot of children are born subnormal in North Yorkshire so they have no hope of enjoying it or understanding it... They're idea of music is single finger key presses and a repetitive bassdrum... This means you Pragnosis... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I've found with people who aren't into techno with Jaguar is most enjoy it. I've even sent tapes of just random good tracks to my friends in Florida and many of them enjoy this track. Some just start asking questions like what is this genre. Some think its music to sophisticated for them. One of my friends who is really into breaks/trance thought he should be drinking a martini to it. Others just beg to barrow it and the remixes or even to buy it of me but of course I refuse. You can't contain something that is that good. Yes there will be people who will not respect the track as many of us will, but to those who start asking questions because they heard it and then grow to respect and love the music we all do thats great. If they don't truly like the music than it will pass. They will listen to it for a while and then it will make its way back to a stack of cds that they don't listen to anymore and they will forget about it. If I was watching MTV and into that mostly garbage music I would be glad someone put Jaguar on it as compared to something by lets say Sonique or Alice deejay or one of those trendy producers. Maybe Jaguar will reach my brother by way of MTV and he'll stop listening to the mainstream trash rap or reach my sister and make her stop being obsessed by those boy bands and their music they don't make. As much as I don't like Jaguar being broadcasted on MTV I'm not going to complain because there is good that can come from it. -Stacey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Re: [313] Re: Jaguar Video
This thread has been full of some interesting opinions, it actually reminds me of arguments that were made a few years ago when 'electronica' was supposed to blow up and be the next big thing. Remember all the buzz over 'AMP' I think people within the techno community saw it as signs of an invasion. That overnight artists who were dedicated to making unique and innovative music whould suddenly become hypnotized into selling out because of exposure to a mass audience. Jaguar is a great track with lots of emotion, we can all agree on that. I personally think Rolando deserves the exposure, MTV air-play included. Sure some people will love it and some people will not get it (music is after all an artform) the point is those who do like it will hopefully have had their minds opened and want to develop an appreciation for this music. dave pinter
Re: (313) Re: Jaguar
Mad Max. Indeed. Lazy and sloppy fools.
