RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
fred, that was great read, thanks! re thisLast week the headlines were all about Steve Jobs dictating to the record industry what their new business model will be. is there a good place to read about that on the internet you'd recommend? thanks alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
In case no one hit you up with any links privately, click through the various links in this article: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/30/2037203tid=98tid=187tid=3 The long and short of it is that the major labels want to start raising prices on some tracks on the iTunes Music Store and Jobs is calling them out on being the greedy asshats that they are. fred, that was great read, thanks! re thisLast week the headlines were all about Steve Jobs dictating to the record industry what their new business model will be. is there a good place to read about that on the internet you'd recommend? thanks alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
Seeing as how some of the posts relating to Record time seem to have gotten way off the mark, I thought it best that the truth be posted from Mike Himes(see below)... and although it is a shame that Mike Huckaby is no longer with the company, it's a terrible insult to the really good people that still work there, and have been amazing music buyers for the company for many years to compare Record Time to Tower Records. I've been buying music from Record Time Ferndale for many years now, and Vince Patricola and Matthew Boynton's knowledge of dance music has been invaluable to me. Matt and Vince both know their music, and they work really hard to be a positive force in the Detroit scene, if you have any doubts, check out the Detroit Electronic Quarterly magazine. It's a great example of what can be created if you have a positive attitude, and Vince is the creator of it. So, to dissuade anymore of this getting out of hand... (and just so you know, I originally chose to shop in the Ferndale store because I preferred the layout... the Roseville store's seperated dance room felt way too elitist for my tastes... once I started shopping in the Ferndale store, I realised that the buyers and the staff are incredible with what they know). a message from Mike Himes: Recently we made the very tough decision to close the dance room and put all product onto the sales floor as we have had success with in Ferndale. I had been struggling with this decison for almost 2 years as the room had been slowly losing sales and traffic. With this decision came something that made total sense on paper and on a business level but tore my heart as it was my baby and vision and had done so much for us and the community it served. It's 2005 and the climate for dance vinyl is changing fast and although it is hard I had to face the writting on the wall and make the decision to close the room and move forward. This meant that Mike Huckaby, a dedicated and respected manager and DJ had to be let go. In a perfect world the room would be there forever but today the way people aquire music is changing fast and technology which was once my friend is now taking business away from me at a rapid rate. The DJ in a box craze is over, final scratch and the laptop DJ systems are used by almost 50% of DJ's today and the good music has gone back underground. In the past 5 years 70% of all independent record stores have closed as again music is being aquired in different ways that skip people like me. I don't want to be part of that statistic so I must do what I have to and unfortunately closing the dance room is a step I took to not be included in that stat. For 22 years I have been part of this community and our allegance to the electronic music scene has not been equaled by anyone else and I find it sad that people would think I would turn my back on something that is so very special to me and this is why I am writting this note. Some of my best friends and most cherished moments are from the work we have done with and for this great music community. The dance room is closed and things change but what will never change is my committment to support our local scene especially the electronic scene. We are planning on still carrying the music and supporting it and the mail order business is still alive and busier than ever. I guess that's all I have. Thank you all for your support Mike Himes Recordtime [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 11/10/2005 17:03 To: '313@hyperreal.org' Cc: Subject:Re: (313) Record Time Steward, Tim wrote: Not to be confused, Recordtime still sells vinyl They only moved the vinyl out of the dance room Into the main room.(There was always vinyl in the Main room, just not dance music). But also don't be confused that Mike Huckaby will NOT be the one ordering... so it's great that they have vinyl, let's just hope they have the vinyl that we want. Tower Records has vinyl too... but it's not the vinyl that I want to buy... Dave
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
Who was comparing Record Time to Tower?! That's right. NO ONE. it's a terrible insult to the really good people that still work there, and have been amazing music buyers for the company for many years to compare Record Time to Tower Records.
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
On Tue, October 11, 2005 6:15 pm, Svagr, Jodie wrote: final scratch and the laptop DJ systems are used by almost 50% of DJ's today says who? i know we're sheltered here in the boondocks, but ive only seen about 2 people total ever using something other than records for the majority of their set. eh, either which way i guess it doesnt matter. if record time wanna go out like punks, let 'em. there will always be people selling the vinyl. tom
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
On Tue, October 11, 2005 6:15 pm, Svagr, Jodie wrote: final scratch and the laptop DJ systems are used by almost 50% of DJ's today says who? i know we're sheltered here in the boondocks, but ive only seen about 2 people total ever using something other than records for the majority of their set. eh, either which way i guess it doesnt matter. if record time wanna go out like punks, let 'em. there will always be people selling the vinyl. tom
Re: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
final scratch and the laptop DJ systems are used by almost 50% of DJ's today says who? i know we're sheltered here in the boondocks, but ive only seen about 2 people total ever using something other than records for the majority of their set. we're all at it now Tomface it your LATE! heh heh robin...
Re: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
On Tue, October 11, 2005 7:11 pm, robin wrote: we're all at it now Tomface it your LATE! heh heh :P on a more serious note, let me just say this now: i'll never deejay with a computer. i've got nothing against it, really. it's just not for me. love, tom
RE: (313) Record Time ...The Truth
That's a good note from Mike Himes. The fact remains that Huck is out of a job, although he probably wouldn't have liked standing behind a cash register or restocking the main floor all day. What Himes says about the changing nature of the business is very true. Last week the headlines were all about Steve Jobs dictating to the record industry what their new business model will be. They don't like it one little bit and nothing is for certain, because the industry has 100 years of whatever it takes (and I mean that) to keep near total control of the creative output of musicians. But that is the way it is. What Mike Himes, Huckaby, Vince and all you who have worked in the fast-diminishing world of retail record stores have is intimate knowledge of where the good stuff is. That doesn't need four walls and a bunch of display racks, and it's very valuable. Ebay is one place where that knowledge goes, podcasting is another, and there are a lot more opportunities going forward. I'm not worried about vinyl because the truth is, despite all its drawbacks, it has vitality as a performance medium. The death of vinyl at the end of the 1980s was the rise of dance music culture as vinyl changed from mass market to performance medium and allowed very small runs of 500 to 5000 to dominate, opening up the market radically to new sonic ideas. The digital revolution that began right at the same time has been dominated by the digital rights lockup of the industry and the RIAA, and they have killed the retail record stores moving from vinyl to CD and now DVD with their greedy and narrow-minded approach. Of course they will try and dominate the electronic digital media as well (sorry, Steve Jobs ain't *my* friend, his tussle with the industry is a competition among sharks), but there is an opening for many new business models, some of which will at last treat the creative and performing musician with some fairness. Submerge and many others selling on the net is one such but not the only model. Record Time was always an anomaly, if you ask me. What other full-service retail store during the last 15 years had a full size dance music room like in Roseville or a fully committed electronic music staff like Ferndale? Ameba in San Francisco has the latter but they have never even had listening stations which is the other essential part of the retail business model for dance music. And I can't think of any others. From Gramaphone to Eightball and Vinyl Mania in New York to Tweekin and BPM in San Francisco to the late lamented 12 Inch Dance Records in DC, the stores I've always found to be the best are specialists. Obviously RT will continue to emphasize electronic and dance music, but it is just the same the end of an era. Although if you want a tragedy, this isn't it. (A tragedy is the loss of those priceless record collections and stores and source recordings on St. Charles Avenue and the Lower Ninth and Treme and throughout Cajunland in the Katrina flood.) -- fred
