Re: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread Matt Chester


I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these viruses
do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected their
email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.

 - Original Message - 
 From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
 puppet?


  if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can
  easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of headers
  get faked as well, but in the received line there's always the ip from
  the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is
209.237.226.90.
  if you don't find this ip in any of the received lines, you can be
sure
  that it's a virus or worm...
 
  bye,
  peter
 
  On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
   1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure
   notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info.
I've
   never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the assumption
   that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you
might
   all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address!
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all.
Can
   anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively
   tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received
   messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure
whether
   to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
 




RE: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.


Or Help a Leper. 

Or I found this secret information about you.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 April 2004 3:43 
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) viruses




I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these viruses
do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected their
email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.

 - Original Message - 
 From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
 puppet?


  if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can
  easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of headers
  get faked as well, but in the received line there's always the ip from
  the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is
209.237.226.90.
  if you don't find this ip in any of the received lines, you can be
sure
  that it's a virus or worm...
 
  bye,
  peter
 
  On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
   1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure
   notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info.
I've
   never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the assumption
   that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you
might
   all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address!
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all.
Can
   anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively
   tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received
   messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure
whether
   to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
 




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RE: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




and who can't resist opening an attachment with the title Help a Leper?

very few I would gather ;)

MEK



  
  Blackman, Ryan   
  
  (UKEKT)   To:   'Matt Chester' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: 
 
  och.eu.comSubject:  RE: (313) 
viruses  

  
  04/30/04 09:37 AM 
  

  

  




, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.


Or Help a Leper.

Or I found this secret information about you.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 30 April 2004 3:43
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) viruses




I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these viruses
do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected
their
email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.

 - Original Message -
 From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
 puppet?


  if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can
  easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of
headers
  get faked as well, but in the received line there's always the ip
from
  the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is
209.237.226.90.
  if you don't find this ip in any of the received lines, you can be
sure
  that it's a virus or worm...
 
  bye,
  peter
 
  On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
   1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure
   notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info.
I've
   never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the
assumption
   that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you
might
   all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address!
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all.
Can
   anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively
   tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received
   messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure
whether
   to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
 




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Re: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread john harvey
i've had loads of these recently - but norten sorts them out


- Original Message - 
From: Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: (313) viruses




 I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these
viruses
 do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected
their
 email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
 address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
 really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
 attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or 4
 words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.

  - Original Message - 
  From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) something weird/abe duque, the hand inside the glove
  puppet?
 
 
   if you're not sure wether a mail really comes from 313 or not, you can
   easily find out by checking the header of the mail. most part of
headers
   get faked as well, but in the received line there's always the ip
from
   the source of the mail. the ip of the hyperreal-server is
 209.237.226.90.
   if you don't find this ip in any of the received lines, you can be
 sure
   that it's a virus or worm...
  
   bye,
   peter
  
   On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:56:53 +0100, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
1. Just got one of those spam emails that mimics a delivery failure
notice and has an attachment that supposedly contains further info.
 I've
never opened these in the past but have trashed them on the
assumption
that the attachment contains a virus or the like. Anyway, what you
 might
all wish to know is that I just got one from the following address!
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
My initial reaction is obviously not to open it and to warn you all.
 Can
anyone confirm whether this is the correct response or alternatively
tell me if in fact it is a bona fide message - I've never received
messages in this form from hyperreal before so I'm not 100% sure
 whether
to dismiss it or not + it seems to be totally out of any context.
  
 






Re: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread peter mueller
viruses and worms use their own smtp engine to spread themselves, which  
means they're not sent from the mailserver of a domain but from the  
infected pc itself. therefor they also have a different ip (the ip of the  
infected computer) than the ip of the mailserver.


but you'r definitely right, the best way to protect yourself from stuff  
like that is checking the content!


bye,
peter

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:42:59 +0100, Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I'd be careful even with that method to be honest, as some of these  
viruses
do genuinely send emails from people you know / trust, having infected  
their

email systems and fired off messages to all their contacts. (ie the IP
address can be genuine even if the message is not)  The best indicator is
really the content itself - most of these ones ask you to check an
attachment, which installs the virus, and they usually just contain 3 or  
4

words of text, and an obvious subject like 'read it immediately.




Re: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread Martin Dust
I recommend you get:
Norton Anti Virus
Zone Alarm (free from Tucows)
Ad-Aware (free from Tucows)
SpyBot (free from Tucows)

I think you'll be surprised what you have on your machine...

Martin



30/4/04 3:45 PM peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 viruses and worms use their own smtp engine to spread themselves, which
 means they're not sent from the mailserver of a domain but from the
 infected pc itself. therefor they also have a different ip (the ip of the
 infected computer) than the ip of the mailserver.
 
 but you'r definitely right, the best way to protect yourself from stuff
 like that is checking the content!
 
 bye,
 peter



Re: (313) viruses

2004-04-30 Thread matt kane's brain

At 12:57 PM 4/30/2004, Martin Dust wrote:

Zone Alarm (free from Tucows)


watch out for this one. lots of vulnerabilities introduced by this firewall.


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