RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists
Some other interesting titbits about Blaze ... An outfit called Phase II in the late 80s/early 90s, had substantially the same members - some of you might remember: 'It's A Mystery': "Love is the question that goes thru my mind, you have the answers I may never find ...". A less beaty, more paradise-garagey version appeared on a compilation called 'Paradise Regained' which I think came out in 1988 (?) on Republic records, in collaboration with Dave Lee (who one could say is a well-known 'Brit Fad freak', but I wouldn't dream of it ;o). The rest of the tracks were mostly by Blaze under different names. I can post details Weds. Josh Milan and Kevin Hedge worked with the Pet Shop Boys on their 'Introspective' Mini-album released in 1988. Josh Milan played keyboards on 'I Want A Dog'; I think both provided 'additional production'. I've come across the names Hedge, Milan, Herbert so often on 'anonymous' disco-house records from the early '90s, I've almost stopped noticing. The '25 years Later' LP therefore was a very big revelation and it still puzzles me how so much lyrical, musical and conceptual talent is still so hidden, 14 years later. Ken >-Original Message- >From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:16 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists > > >For those of you who wanna know, some insight: > >>Blaze : 25 years later / 1992/Motown > > >>Track listing >>Street Corner Get Up >>The Prayer So Special >>The Fight Miss My Love >>You Don't Really Love Me >>Street Walker Any Thing For Yo >>The Dream We All Must Live Tog >>The Window I Wonder >>The Bombing Gonna Make It Work >>Confessions All That I Should >>Missing You >>The Acceptance Lover Man >>The Cab Love Is Forever >>Broad & Market NWK >>The Conclusion The Hope Song >> >>The album didn't sell, because was included in their contrat no promo- no >>marketing, artists will, that lead to one member of the group >Chris Herbert >>leaving ( he was not agree on the strategy of Kevin and Josh)! From the >>horse's mouth of Timmy (a Dj resident at Shelter) don't know if it's true >>or >>not but Timmy knows Kevin for sure, as Kevin is the boss of Shelter , I >>know >>also that some so called well known journalits :-) have tried for ages to >>interview them, no chance... ..All in all for what I heard Blaze are >>now >>in the process of deciding to enter into the field of becoming a music >>distribution company, where they will give music producers of today a >>better >>deal as regards to promotion, publishing rights and their own >record label. >>But we'll have to wait but another issue for them in New-York is >>MAW...! they got their mafia, clique there too :-)..! >> >>And the nightmare still goes on...! do you know that ? remixes of their >>songs are starting to multiply. Last year we had Farley and Heller via the >>group called Fire Island, UK remixed and revamp an old classic their's >>called "If I should need a friend". Another old classic of their's is >>"Moonwalk" which has been given the same treatment by the group called >>Nuphonic. And finally we saw the Deep Dish Boys take the original Blaze >>song >>"Hideaway" and made it into probably the biggest dance (garage ?) track of >>last year ! >> > >> >> >>|-Original Message- >>|From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>|Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM >>|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >>|Subject: [313] Post-disco major label artists >>| >>| >>|That's too bad about Motown, cuz Blaze is a totally mass marketable >>|commodity IMO. And it most certainly HAD been done well at Motown >>|for many >>|a year. Again, Tata Vega, Teena Marie, The Originals were all on Motown >>|releasing dance singles and now Blazewhich I wasn't aware of. >>| >>|curious to know what the problem was..more than likely lack of >>|radio play to >>|substantiate? What might you've heard Otto?? >>| >>|Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, >>|came just >>|after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products >>|performed or his history with Epic? >>| >>|What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released >>|since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this >>|disc
RE: [313] Post-disco major label artists
For those of you who wanna know, some insight: Blaze : 25 years later / 1992/Motown Track listing Street Corner Get Up The Prayer So Special The Fight Miss My Love You Don't Really Love Me Street Walker Any Thing For Yo The Dream We All Must Live Tog The Window I Wonder The Bombing Gonna Make It Work Confessions All That I Should Missing You The Acceptance Lover Man The Cab Love Is Forever Broad & Market NWK The Conclusion The Hope Song The album didn't sell, because was included in their contrat no promo- no marketing, artists will, that lead to one member of the group Chris Herbert leaving ( he was not agree on the strategy of Kevin and Josh)! From the horse's mouth of Timmy (a Dj resident at Shelter) don't know if it's true or not but Timmy knows Kevin for sure, as Kevin is the boss of Shelter , I know also that some so called well known journalits :-) have tried for ages to interview them, no chance... ..All in all for what I heard Blaze are now in the process of deciding to enter into the field of becoming a music distribution company, where they will give music producers of today a better deal as regards to promotion, publishing rights and their own record label. But we'll have to wait but another issue for them in New-York is MAW...! they got their mafia, clique there too :-)..! And the nightmare still goes on...! do you know that ? remixes of their songs are starting to multiply. Last year we had Farley and Heller via the group called Fire Island, UK remixed and revamp an old classic their's called "If I should need a friend". Another old classic of their's is "Moonwalk" which has been given the same treatment by the group called Nuphonic. And finally we saw the Deep Dish Boys take the original Blaze song "Hideaway" and made it into probably the biggest dance (garage ?) track of last year ! |-Original Message- |From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:49 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: [313] Post-disco major label artists | | |That's too bad about Motown, cuz Blaze is a totally mass marketable |commodity IMO. And it most certainly HAD been done well at Motown |for many |a year. Again, Tata Vega, Teena Marie, The Originals were all on Motown |releasing dance singles and now Blazewhich I wasn't aware of. | |curious to know what the problem was..more than likely lack of |radio play to |substantiate? What might you've heard Otto?? | |Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, |came just |after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products |performed or his history with Epic? | |What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released |since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this |discussion... | | |>From: Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> |>Subject: Re: [313] House / techno popularity |>Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 20:00:35 +0100 |> |>laura gavoor wrote: |> |> > Giles...you read my mind!!! I stil CANNOT fathom why A the |>fabulous |> > Blaze tracks from "Funky People" to "Another Dae" to Can You Dance to |>My |> > Beat and on and on...all song based house compositions COULD |>NOT, |> > WOULD NOT be considered commerically viable in America...they MUST |>be |> > black and independently based, eh? |> > |> > No one can tell me that there haven't been innumerable house anthems to |> > follow up Good Life and Big Fun that could've garnered a fat label deal |> > (providing the artist didn't want to sign to a major as an artist) or |>artist |> > dealand sold millions. |> |>Well, at one point Blaze were signed to Motown, but I don't know why |>that didn't take off as it should have. |> |>All I know is that as a contender for best house/garage track ever, |>'Elevation' is pretty hard to beat. |> |>Otto |> |> |> |>- |>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> | | | | | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |_ |Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com | | |- |To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Post-disco major label artists
how well did lil louis' products perform? french kiss has sold over a million copies. james www.jbucknell.com > From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 20:49:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] Post-disco major label artists > > That's too bad about Motown, cuz Blaze is a totally mass marketable > commodity IMO. And it most certainly HAD been done well at Motown for many > a year. Again, Tata Vega, Teena Marie, The Originals were all on Motown > releasing dance singles and now Blazewhich I wasn't aware of. > > curious to know what the problem was..more than likely lack of radio play to > substantiate? What might you've heard Otto?? > > Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, came just > after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products > performed or his history with Epic? > > What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released > since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this > discussion... > > >> From: Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> >> Subject: Re: [313] House / techno popularity >> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 20:00:35 +0100 >> >> laura gavoor wrote: >> >>> Giles...you read my mind!!! I stil CANNOT fathom why A the >> fabulous >>> Blaze tracks from "Funky People" to "Another Dae" to Can You Dance to >> My >>> Beat and on and on...all song based house compositions COULD >> NOT, >>> WOULD NOT be considered commerically viable in America...they MUST >> be >>> black and independently based, eh? >>> >>> No one can tell me that there haven't been innumerable house anthems to >>> follow up Good Life and Big Fun that could've garnered a fat label deal >>> (providing the artist didn't want to sign to a major as an artist) or >> artist >>> dealand sold millions. >> >> Well, at one point Blaze were signed to Motown, but I don't know why >> that didn't take off as it should have. >> >> All I know is that as a contender for best house/garage track ever, >> 'Elevation' is pretty hard to beat. >> >> Otto >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Post-disco major label artists
Also, I was just reminded that Lil Louis, released on Epic dance, came just after Inner City's success. Does anyone know how well his products performed or his history with Epic? What about Fantasy Records, which dance artists have they signed/released since Cybotron ?? C'mon playas...let's get on down with this discussion... basically lil louis didn't have big commercial success with epic as they were expecting and they dropped him like a hot potato. they started off releasing french kiss in 1987 and then put out his LP "from the mind of lil louis" which was critically acclaimed, but not a big seller. then he released "journey with the lonely" and it once again didn't sell. epic was really not happy with the lack of commercial sales and then left him on his own after that. he ended up taking a hiatus from releasing tracks for a while and then came back under the name Black Magic, starting with the track "freedom" which obviously was not an epic release. as far as fantasy records, you can look up their catalog online...i was searching through some of it and it looks like they recently released a CCR album. yeeehaw. http://www.fantasyjazz.com happy hunting, lauryn.
