Re: [313] again + again

2002-01-31 Thread Stewart Caig
Plus it must have been about that time people like Juan Atkins started
experimenting with drum and bass. I especially recall his track off the True
People LP

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> The links between 4Hero and Detroit go back for almost a decade. Mark+Dego
> compiled the rather excellent 'Deepest Shade of Techno' album, they made
> techno tracks as Nu Era and the Detroit influences on their Jacob's
Optical
> Stairway work are very obvious too. The track 'Something Happened on
Dollis
> Hill' by The Infiltrator (Andre Holland) on the 'Interstellar Fugitives'
> album is a reference to where the 4Hero studio is.
>
> And I agree with Marsel that 'Black Secret Technology' is at least as much
> a Detroit techno album as a drum 'n bass album. It's the album that got me
> into drum 'n bass. Released in '95 and it still sounds fresh.
>
> Otto
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RE: [313] again + again

2002-01-31 Thread Otto

Ian Cheshire wrote:

>4hero?
>
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>Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post?

The links between 4Hero and Detroit go back for almost a decade. Mark+Dego 
compiled the rather excellent 'Deepest Shade of Techno' album, they made 
techno tracks as Nu Era and the Detroit influences on their Jacob's Optical 
Stairway work are very obvious too. The track 'Something Happened on Dollis 
Hill' by The Infiltrator (Andre Holland) on the 'Interstellar Fugitives' 
album is a reference to where the 4Hero studio is.


And I agree with Marsel that 'Black Secret Technology' is at least as much 
a Detroit techno album as a drum 'n bass album. It's the album that got me 
into drum 'n bass. Released in '95 and it still sounds fresh.


Otto


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RE: [313] again + again

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Cheshire
4hero?

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Subject: RE: [313] again + again


Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post?






On Thu, 31 January 2002, Ian Cheshire wrote:

> 
> erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick..
> 
> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk
> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum..
> 
> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email?
> 
> I am happy you accept I could be wrong :)
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] again + again 
> 
> 
> dear list-people,
> 
> thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list -
> 
> some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand 
> 
> my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - 
> 
> What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, 
> 
> that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level
-
> 
> Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language
problem 
> 
> but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger
> background - 
> 
> But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things
> behind the art, 
> 
> we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - 
> 
> let me come up with nu questions -
> 
> What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? 
> 
> Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? 
> 
> Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music
is
> "black music" ?  
> 
> Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? 
> 
> ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR,
Mills,
> Juan Atkins ...  
> 
> yes yes, various attitudes and messages included -  
> 
> but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... 
> 
> otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4  
> 
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RE: [313] again + again

2002-01-31 Thread T . J . Johnson
Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post?






On Thu, 31 January 2002, Ian Cheshire wrote:

> 
> erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick..
> 
> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk
> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum..
> 
> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email?
> 
> I am happy you accept I could be wrong :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 31 January 2002 13:43
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [313] again + again 
> 
> 
> dear list-people,
> 
> thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list -
> 
> some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand 
> 
> my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - 
> 
> What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, 
> 
> that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level -
> 
> Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem 
> 
> but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger
> background - 
> 
> But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things
> behind the art, 
> 
> we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - 
> 
> let me come up with nu questions -
> 
> What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? 
> 
> Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? 
> 
> Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is
> "black music" ?  
> 
> Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? 
> 
> ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills,
> Juan Atkins ...  
> 
> yes yes, various attitudes and messages included -  
> 
> but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... 
> 
> otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4  
> 
> -- 
> LoveThemPlanetZ
> peoplez
> plantz
> peaze
> pluz
> m   
> 
> GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
> http://www.gmx.net
> 
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RE: [313] again + again

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Cheshire
erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick..

If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk
about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum..

Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email?

I am happy you accept I could be wrong :)

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Subject: [313] again + again 


dear list-people,

thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list -

some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand 

my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - 

What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, 

that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level -

Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem 

but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger
background - 

But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things
behind the art, 

we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - 

let me come up with nu questions -

What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? 

Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? 

Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is
"black music" ?  

Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? 

... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills,
Juan Atkins ...  

yes yes, various attitudes and messages included -  

but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... 

otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4  

-- 
LoveThemPlanetZ
peoplez
plantz
peaze
pluz
m   

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