RE: [313] is it music?
i like delsin. and mangos for breakfast! -Original Message- From: SHAUN SWINDELL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:06 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] is it music? the age old is it music or is it noise debate,at the end of the day if it makes you moove then it is justified as a form of entertainment, thus who are we to comment on whether or not it is or is not music. for the people who enjoy d'n'b it most certainly is music but for the rest it sounds like, a person that fell down a flight of stairs with their drum kit. however if it entertains then it justifiably takes its place as a musical genre. i would like to think thath there are a number of people that enjoy d'n'b that enjoy all good music not just their own particular favourite, there is after all only two types of music out there "good" and "bad" music. as the old saying goes "beauty is in the eye, or in this case ear, of the beholder. finaly if you get nothing out of a particular piece of music it's fair to say for you it's "bad" music and vice versa if it's "good" music, but your "bad" music is just your own taste or opinion and as everyone knows opinions are like arseholes. everyone has one and sometimes they are full of shit. so now a little pause for thoughtit's all house music Shosh. P.S it's just my opinion _ Join the worldÂs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313] is it music? Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:12:04 -0500 i like delsin. and mangos for breakfast! -Original Message- From: SHAUN SWINDELL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:06 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] is it music? the age old is it music or is it noise debate,at the end of the day if it makes you moove then it is justified as a form of entertainment, thus who are we to comment on whether or not it is or is not music. for the people who enjoy d'n'b it most certainly is music but for the rest it sounds like, a person that fell down a flight of stairs with their drum kit. however if it entertains then it justifiably takes its place as a musical genre. i would like to think thath there are a number of people that enjoy d'n'b that enjoy all good music not just their own particular favourite, there is after all only two types of music out there "good" and "bad" music. as the old saying goes "beauty is in the eye, or in this case ear, of the beholder. finaly if you get nothing out of a particular piece of music it's fair to say for you it's "bad" music and vice versa if it's "good" music, but your "bad" music is just your own taste or opinion and as everyone knows opinions are like arseholes. everyone has one and sometimes they are full of shit. so now a little pause for thoughtit's all house music Shosh. P.S it's just my opinion _ Join the worldÂs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i dunno what delsin is, is it nice? oh i like traffic lights little hobby of mine. red...yellow...green...ah bliss Shosh _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
music is so much more - communication and projections much of 313-music is full of things to talk about but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste - incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others - so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason Of course it also can´t go without bringing in your perspective... but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez (respect 4 some ewoks too) ... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list soon m planetz2002 -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
> > ... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list no, not more blabla! robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] is it music? Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:30:30 +0100 (MET) music is so much more - communication and projections much of 313-music is full of things to talk about but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste - incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others - so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason Of course it also cani?t go without bringing in your perspective... but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez (respect 4 some ewoks too) ... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list soon m planetz2002 -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know exactly what you mean it is so much more than just taste, but before anything else you have to appreciate the music, first you have to feel it then and only then can you offer a view. In the end though if music is a feeling and you ain't feeling it it ain't music to you. Your view can however change if you are prepared to open yourself to new experiences and through practice, ie. listening, you can then train your ear to enjoy it. When you know the effort and thought that has gone into a composition you can't help but admire the individuals or person that created the piece. Question is a piece of music as valid knowing the creator/s are doing it to make a quick killing or are the struggling musicians out there the true music makers? Blimey what a heavy composition! Shosh _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
This is barely comprehensible. Sorry. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:31 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] is it music? > > >music is so much more - > >communication and projections > >much of 313-music is full of things to talk about > >but it should happen a much higher level then only comments about taste - > >incl. some respect 4 the musicians beeing judged by others - > >so much more then any other people get judged 4 what they do 4 some reason > >Of course it also can´t go without bringing in your perspective... > >but a lil more reflective then sometimes b4 - pleeez > >(respect 4 some ewoks too) > >... still preparing some blabla in my mind bout that 4 the list > >soon > >m >planetz2002 > >-- >LoveThemPlanetZ >peoplez >plantz >peaze >pluz >m > >GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. >http://www.gmx.net > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
> This is barely comprehensible. Sorry. > what do you mean by that ? - the grammar and stuff ? - pffr or you got the meaning and you complain about that ? you could complain a bit more detailed then - - oh and robin - about the bla-man thing hm listen - I would love to shut up and just read and learn more about the deeper things in 313-culture - (beside the always good2know record collector-stuff) but most comments here - are so flat and are just üärgh - I mean why the f±±± is this rubbish almost every day, like: "Mills should do and write this and that", or yesterday - "Stacey Pullen should mix like this" so people give him a mark as if it´s about getting marks at school ? the Music needs to be like this and that ? ? ? What do you know about the meaning of certain drum patterns ? The meaning of african culture in music (and techno music) and how it developes through the circumstances the dominating nations create on the planet. What is it that makes you move - beside "banging beats" or that it´s "hot" ? I´m here 4 understanding more ... does that make sense ? ps - alex reece "c" not "s" was the pulp fiction one - and - adam f - bob james sampling - octave one - bob james roadies off 2day party nite nite m planetz2002 -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
a couple of thoughts.. it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex 'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they haven't been listening.. d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b (see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when he put house tracks on the last album.. i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush.. rave on kids - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twoplayer.net/theo http://twoplayer.net/kdj _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] is it music?
as a person who started out in drum`n`bass- that was my first music i really got into - than i decided to build a little studio and started spinning. i can say i feel drum`n`bass in a lot of the techno i hear today, people like charles Noel which i really really like and stuff like Bpitch control (mainly i feel the ellen alien tracks are full of drum`n`bass ideads). i agree with stephan the dimention 5 on delsin is just great album. - Original Message - From: "Stephen Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:31 PM Subject: RE: [313] is it music? > a couple of thoughts.. > > it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex > 'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex > reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they > haven't been listening.. > > d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole > uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b > has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b > (see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around > saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your > nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who > discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when > he put house tracks on the last album.. > > i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush.. > > rave on kids - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://twoplayer.net/theo > http://twoplayer.net/kdj > > > > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] is it music?
> turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than > the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered > a few techno records round about 1993) That's stretching the truth -- nobody spun a hardcore/drum'n'bass set with just Bug in the Bassbin and a few KMS records... There were a lot of great records coming straight out of the British hardcore/rave scene back then, and though Detroit techno influenced a *few* of them, the scene was totally self-supporting. John -Original Message- From: Stephen Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] is it music? a couple of thoughts.. it's a reese bassline - kevin master reese saunderson.. not alex 'metalheadz' reece.. d'n'b/hardcore had reese basslines before it had alex reece.. nobody who was into d'n'b should even make this mistake or else they haven't been listening.. d'n'b has proved itself - it's influenced modern r'n'b and spawned the whole uk garage thing - personally i'm not into either, but it proves that d'n'b has influenced/inspired people - so it's music.. techno influenced d'n'b (see above) and you don't have to be into both, but you can't go around saying one thing isn't music just 'cause you're not into it.. turning your nose up at d'n'b is no better than the d'n'b people (a load of ex-ravers who discovered a few techno records round about 1993) who deserted photek when he put house tracks on the last album.. i like delsin.. the new delsin album by dimension5 is lush.. rave on kids - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://twoplayer.net/theo http://twoplayer.net/kdj _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
