Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-06 Thread Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, janos wrote:

 Corrsion   http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77
 
  I haven't been paying too much attention since the Corrosion label has
completely blown past without me even noticing, even when the releases
have been under Cole's own name. Oh well, time to catch up.

  Nevertheless, I've also heard that Reality Or Nothing on Housewerk is
one of Cole's projects as well. True/false? I haven't heard anything on
the label/by the artist, but my sources tell me that it is more house than
releases on any of the User labels.

  Also, there's one more label, Abuser, on which he has released one
12 with both sides being the same (or I have a defective copy).

  USER09 came out a while back (I had to wait for a new pressing since the
first one was defective) but I haven't had the time to check it out too
well yet. But since I've liked the previous 8 on User, 6 on 00xA and the
one on Abuser, I think it'll be as good (and probably as variable) as the
older ones.

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Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-06 Thread Overload Media
Ali here from Overload Magazine (Bristol, UK).

It's been interesting to follow this User thing over the past few days,
especially as we're running a double-page feature on Birmingham in the next
issue of the mag and the last thing we want to do is print something that is
false or misleading. Please don't take this as gospel, I report what I
hear...

I've heard a lot of different stories from a lot of different sources about
User records. I've been led to believe that Richard Harvey (the name that
appeared on a couple of old Downwards EPs) was just the name used for
licensing on the Hawtin mix. This is quite possibly the case, although I did
also hear once that Richard Harvey was a dustman from Birmingham (!). I
personally don't think Richard Harvey ever existed. Integrale informed me
many months ago that User is Dean Cole. Indeed, I have a fax interview with
User (Dean Cole) completed back in February. Clearly it is difficult to
verify answers by way of a fax interview (which is one of the reasons I
always like to interview artists face-to-face).

Abuser, on the other hand, I've been led to believe (from UK DJs) is not
Dean Cole, but a certain NY producer who has been cropping up in this
discourse. I have also been told (rightly or wrongly) by a couple of UK DJs
that the same chap was also repsonsible for some early User output. I must
admit that the production styles of all the User records do seem to vary,
which leads me (rightly or wrongly) to believe it may be more that one
producer producing the trax. Dean Cole's recent release on his own Corrosion
label had plenty of generic User tendencies to it, yet the promo of User 10
reviewed in our last issue seemed different still.

One thing that has struck me about all this comes back to the 'faceless'
techno thing. User records are highly effective dancefloor tools, nothing
else - even commercial UK DJs like Sasha have been playing them. It would be
easy for someone to have laid claim to early User productions and be milking
the cashcow after a couple of releases, but this didn't happen. As the plot
thickens, obviously people want answers. I report what I have been told. If
someone can fill in the gaps, I'd be a happy man.

Cheers

Ali
Overload Media

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On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, janos wrote:

 Corrsion   http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77

  I haven't been paying too much attention since the Corrosion label has
completely blown past without me even noticing, even when the releases
have been under Cole's own name. Oh well, time to catch up.

  Nevertheless, I've also heard that Reality Or Nothing on Housewerk is
one of Cole's projects as well. True/false? I haven't heard anything on
the label/by the artist, but my sources tell me that it is more house than
releases on any of the User labels.

  Also, there's one more label, Abuser, on which he has released one
12 with both sides being the same (or I have a defective copy).

  USER09 came out a while back (I had to wait for a new pressing since the
first one was defective) but I haven't had the time to check it out too
well yet. But since I've liked the previous 8 on User, 6 on 00xA and the
one on Abuser, I think it'll be as good (and probably as variable) as the
older ones.

  Always the trainspotter,
--
nuutti-iivari meriläinen   gordon at diversion dot org
http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash



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Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread dobyrush

And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias...

At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote:

richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is
from london, he is also know as user which is some
of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that
appear on the decks, efx,  909 disc.

hopefully this brings some clarity to you.
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Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread janos
Hi again friends...

Dean Cole AKA Richard Harvey AKA User records, first came into contact with
music while attending various heavy blues parties. His uncle operated the
legendary ROADBLOCK Sound System.  The ACID HOUSE explosion of 88 took hold
of the fifteen year olds imagination and was soon experimenting with Cheap
keyboards   drum machines.  Various trips to New York brought another
influence the mighty 'Franky Bones', creating sampling brought new
possibilities to Cole's approach to making music.  He purchased a sampler
and began to utilize rhythms and sounds from various sources to create heavy
up-to date trax with tip off the hat to the early innovators of dance
electronica.  Dean Cole prefers to remain in the background giving max
respect to the originators. While people may criticize his methods, there is
no argument to the power of his trax on the dance floor.

It really is a case of 'Shut Up and Dance'.

And once again:  It's all here...
User records  http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO397760e6cd224
00A http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO3977616c75a67
Corrsion   http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77


Peace
janos




 And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias...

 At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote:
 richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is
 from london, he is also know as user which is some
 of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that
 appear on the decks, efx,  909 disc.
 
 hopefully this brings some clarity to you.
 troy
 
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Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread darw_n
Yeah, thanks for the input...

The only reason I ask is that, you know, richie can get weird with his
approaches.  I have most of the user records (still trying to find 001a),
but I was always a little confused because lack of info...

But there still remains this weird question about what's up with the DE9
artist naming...

When you put DE9 into that new microsoft media player, all the artists names
come up on each track and title.  Well,  to make a long story short, here's
how it comes up-
ratio : early blow
richie hawtin : dumped
richard harvey : (02)
richard harvey : (04)
richard harvey : (01)
richard harvey : (01)
richard harvey : 001a
richie hawtin : b2
richie hawtin : road to rio
richie hawtin : b1
richie hawtin : A2
richie hawtin : A1
richard harvey : 002a - b1
jeff mills
jeff mills
jeff mills
jeff mills
richie
richie
nietzer ebb
ect...


u, clearly this is a conscious effort to label the artist and tracks
this way...

any input?


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 richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is
 from london, he is also know as user which is some
 of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that
 appear on the decks, efx,  909 disc.

 hopefully this brings some clarity to you.
 troy

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Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread Craig Stodolenak

darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


But there still remains this weird question about what's up with the DE9
artist naming...

When you put DE9 into that new microsoft media player, all the artists names
come up on each track and title.  Well,  to make a long story short, here's
how it comes up-

richie hawtin : dumped
richie hawtin : b2
richie hawtin : road to rio
richie hawtin : b1
richie hawtin : A2
richie hawtin : A1


There are four of Richie's tracks on the DE9 CD; these being the four 
Orange mixes (Orange/Minus 1, Orange/Minus 2, Minus/Orange 2 and 
Minus/Orange 1).  I don't know if the MS player pulls track info from 
CDDB or what, but like many Microsoft products it's obviously 
producing erroneous results.


;)


- Craig


Re: [313] richard harvey explanation

2000-10-02 Thread darw_n
 There are four of Richie's tracks on the DE9 CD; these being the four
 Orange mixes (Orange/Minus 1, Orange/Minus 2, Minus/Orange 2 and
 Minus/Orange 1).  I don't know if the MS player pulls track info from
 CDDB or what, but like many Microsoft products it's obviously
 producing erroneous results.


That's what I thought to, but every CD I put in, is completely accurate, my
Cure CD's (don't laugh) actually have the year next to each track...

No, the data is certainly entered in like that...

I am very curious about this...

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