Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Vaughn
Existing entries are not added automatically when enabling the plugin, you
have to either run the fixup-memberof.pl script (if it works for you - it
never did anything for us), or you have to make a change to each
pre-existing user to trigger the memberOf updating. The easiest way to do
that is to simply create a group and add everyone to it, then remove it
(unless of course you actually have a use for said group). If you already
have a group with everyone in it, you can probably create a new group, and
add that group as a member of the new group.



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Lars Remes lars.re...@symbio.com wrote:

 I'm not sure if existing entries are added automatically when you enable
 the plugin.
 I would assume so, but in any case at any time you can run the fix-up task
 that will sync the attributes.
 You can define the scope for the task using a filter, for example, fix
 only ou=orgunit,ou=People,... branch of the DIT.

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 www.symbio.com


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  From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-
  boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Vesa Alho
  Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2013 15:50
  To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Subject: Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?
 
  On 10/21/2013 01:37 PM, Lars Remes wrote:
   We are using the memberOf plugin in a global, multi-master-multi-slave
  setup, and so far we have not encountered any major issues.
  
   You can easily change the membership attribute, for example, to
  memberUid.
   MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute between
  masters, but the attribute IS copied to slaves. Each master runs own
 instance
  of the plugin.
  
   Sometimes you may need to manual launch the fix-up task, but that has
  been quite rare.
   If necessary, you can schedule it to run periodically.
 
  How does it work for already existing entries if I enable the plugin? Do
  I need add them manually or does the plugin add them automatically?
 
  Naturally I will test this well before changing production, but just
  interested what it takes to start using it.
 
  Thanks for replying!
 
  -Vesa
 
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Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-22 Thread Rich Megginson

On 10/22/2013 11:44 AM, Jonathan Vaughn wrote:
That was exactly the way we ran it, per that documentation, but it 
didn't appear to do anything.


You can check the /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-INST/errors log file to see if 
it ran and if there were any errors.


So, I figured out that just adding/removing users from groups would 
trigger it to update ALL groups for that user,


Yes, it does.


so I just bulk added everyone to a group and problem solved.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com 
mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com wrote:


On 10/22/2013 10:52 AM, Jonathan Vaughn wrote:

Existing entries are not added automatically when enabling the
plugin, you have to either run the fixup-memberof.pl
http://fixup-memberof.pl script (if it works for you - it never
did anything for us),


This is the documented way to do it.


https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Server/9.0/html/Administration_Guide/Advanced_Entry_Management.html#groups-cmd-memberof

6.1.4.5. Synchronizing memberOf Values
The MemberOf Plug-in automatically manages the memberOf attribute
on group member entries, based on the configuration in the group
entry itself. However, the memberOf attribute can be edited on a
user entry directly (which is improper) or new entries can be
imported or replicated over to the server that have a memberOf
attribute already set. These situations create inconsistencies
between the memberOf configuration managed by the server plug-in
and the actual memberships defined for an entry.
Directory Server has a memberOf repair task which manually runs
the plug-in to make sure the appropriate memberOf attributes are
set on entries. There are three ways to trigger this task:

In the Directory Server Console
Using the fixup-memberof.pl http://fixup-memberof.pl script
Running a cn=memberof task,cn=tasks,cn=config tasks entry

6.1.4.5.1. Initializing and Regenerating memberOf Attributes Using
fixup-memberof.pl http://fixup-memberof.pl
The fixup-memberof.pl http://fixup-memberof.pl script launches a
special task to regenerate all of the memberOf attributes on user
entries based on the defined member attributes in the group
entries. This is a clean-up task which synchronizes the membership
defined in group entries and the corresponding user entries and
overwrites any accidental or improper edits on the user entries.

Open the tool directory for the Directory Server instance,
/usr/lib/dirsrv/slapd-instance_name/.
Run the script, binding as the Directory Manager.

./fixup-memberof.pl http://fixup-memberof.pl -D
cn=Directory Manager -w password

The fixup-memberof.pl http://fixup-memberof.pl command is
described in more detail in the Configuration and Command-Line
Tool Reference.

If it is not working for you, then please describe the steps you
took.



or you have to make a change to each pre-existing user to trigger
the memberOf updating. The easiest way to do that is to simply
create a group and add everyone to it, then remove it (unless of
course you actually have a use for said group). If you already
have a group with everyone in it, you can probably create a new
group, and add that group as a member of the new group.



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Lars Remes
lars.re...@symbio.com mailto:lars.re...@symbio.com wrote:

I'm not sure if existing entries are added automatically when
you enable the plugin.
I would assume so, but in any case at any time you can run
the fix-up task that will sync the attributes.
You can define the scope for the task using a filter, for
example, fix only ou=orgunit,ou=People,... branch of the DIT.

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mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

 On 10/21/2013 01:37 PM, Lars Remes wrote:
  We are using the memberOf plugin in a global,
multi-master-multi-slave
 setup, and so far we have not encountered any major issues.
 
  You can easily change the membership attribute, for
example, to
 memberUid.
  MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute
between
 masters

[389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-21 Thread Vesa Alho

Hi,

I have a commercial application which could use MemberOf information 
from LDAP (ref http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/MemberOf_Plugin). 
Does many people use this plugin and what are your experiences with it? 
Currently we are only using uniquemember attribute in Group entries.


Some stuff on the Issues list look worrying to me:

Membership attribute is currently hard-coded to be member
We really should make this work with MMR. 

MemberOf is not crucial to us. So, before I start experimenting, it 
would be great to know if it's worth my time.


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Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-21 Thread Lars Remes
We are using the memberOf plugin in a global, multi-master-multi-slave setup, 
and so far we have not encountered any major issues.

You can easily change the membership attribute, for example, to memberUid.
MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute between masters, but 
the attribute IS copied to slaves. Each master runs own instance of the plugin.

Sometimes you may need to manual launch the fix-up task, but that has been 
quite rare.
If necessary, you can schedule it to run periodically.
--
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lars.re...@symbio.com
www.symbio.com 



 -Original Message-
 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-
 boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Vesa Alho
 Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2013 13:23
 To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
 Subject: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a commercial application which could use MemberOf information
 from LDAP (ref http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/MemberOf_Plugin).
 Does many people use this plugin and what are your experiences with it?
 Currently we are only using uniquemember attribute in Group entries.
 
 Some stuff on the Issues list look worrying to me:
 
 Membership attribute is currently hard-coded to be member
 We really should make this work with MMR. 
 
 MemberOf is not crucial to us. So, before I start experimenting, it
 would be great to know if it's worth my time.
 
 -Mr. Vesa Alho
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Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-21 Thread Lars Remes
Sorry, mentioned the wrong attribute in previous mail.

Meant to say, you can easily change the membership attribute to uniqueMember.
(You can't use memberUid as it's value is not a DN)

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 -Original Message-
 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-
 boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Lars Remes
 Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2013 13:37
 To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
 Subject: Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?
 
 We are using the memberOf plugin in a global, multi-master-multi-slave
 setup, and so far we have not encountered any major issues.
 
 You can easily change the membership attribute, for example, to
 memberUid.
 MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute between
 masters, but the attribute IS copied to slaves. Each master runs own instance
 of the plugin.
 
 Sometimes you may need to manual launch the fix-up task, but that has
 been quite rare.
 If necessary, you can schedule it to run periodically.
 --
 Lars Remes / Service Quality
 
 lars.re...@symbio.com
 www.symbio.com
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-
  boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Vesa Alho
  Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2013 13:23
  To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project.
  Subject: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?
 
  Hi,
 
  I have a commercial application which could use MemberOf information
  from LDAP (ref
 http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/MemberOf_Plugin).
  Does many people use this plugin and what are your experiences with it?
  Currently we are only using uniquemember attribute in Group entries.
 
  Some stuff on the Issues list look worrying to me:
 
  Membership attribute is currently hard-coded to be member
  We really should make this work with MMR. 
 
  MemberOf is not crucial to us. So, before I start experimenting, it
  would be great to know if it's worth my time.
 
  -Mr. Vesa Alho
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Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-21 Thread Vesa Alho

On 10/21/2013 01:37 PM, Lars Remes wrote:

We are using the memberOf plugin in a global, multi-master-multi-slave setup, 
and so far we have not encountered any major issues.

You can easily change the membership attribute, for example, to memberUid.
MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute between masters, but 
the attribute IS copied to slaves. Each master runs own instance of the plugin.

Sometimes you may need to manual launch the fix-up task, but that has been 
quite rare.
If necessary, you can schedule it to run periodically.


How does it work for already existing entries if I enable the plugin? Do 
I need add them manually or does the plugin add them automatically?


Naturally I will test this well before changing production, but just 
interested what it takes to start using it.


Thanks for replying!

-Vesa

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Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?

2013-10-21 Thread Lars Remes
I'm not sure if existing entries are added automatically when you enable the 
plugin.
I would assume so, but in any case at any time you can run the fix-up task that 
will sync the attributes.
You can define the scope for the task using a filter, for example, fix only 
ou=orgunit,ou=People,... branch of the DIT.

--
Lars Remes / Service Quality

lars.re...@symbio.com
www.symbio.com 


 -Original Message-
 From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-
 boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Vesa Alho
 Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2013 15:50
 To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: [389-users] MemberOf Plugin - experiences?
 
 On 10/21/2013 01:37 PM, Lars Remes wrote:
  We are using the memberOf plugin in a global, multi-master-multi-slave
 setup, and so far we have not encountered any major issues.
 
  You can easily change the membership attribute, for example, to
 memberUid.
  MMR is handled by not replicating the memberOf attribute between
 masters, but the attribute IS copied to slaves. Each master runs own instance
 of the plugin.
 
  Sometimes you may need to manual launch the fix-up task, but that has
 been quite rare.
  If necessary, you can schedule it to run periodically.
 
 How does it work for already existing entries if I enable the plugin? Do
 I need add them manually or does the plugin add them automatically?
 
 Naturally I will test this well before changing production, but just
 interested what it takes to start using it.
 
 Thanks for replying!
 
 -Vesa
 
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