Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah 
Has anyone got suggestions on WYSIWYG editors other than DW and MS Visual
Web? Something more basic..

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

> I have been using MS Expression Web whilst not the best I can quickly jump
> to the code I need to work on by clicking on the relevant section in the
> "Design" Pane. If I am not sure which table or row I am currently editing I
> can change the border or color to confirm this. Or I can simply type into
> the design editor and see where it lands up in the code. Whilst I prefer
> most of the coding by hand the visual preview and editing helps sometimes.
> There are no Tree Collapse features and it does not have the best of text
> editors. I think it was last updated in 2010 and dont think MS came up with
> a replacement or update.
>
> I tried ATOM with the HTML preview package but still not the same.
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
>>
>>> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues
>>> with
>>> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>>>
>>>
>> At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup
>> in mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am
>> not having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better
>> editor and validator.
>>
>> What HTML doctype do you validate these with?
>>
>>
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah 
I have been using MS Expression Web whilst not the best I can quickly jump
to the code I need to work on by clicking on the relevant section in the
"Design" Pane. If I am not sure which table or row I am currently editing I
can change the border or color to confirm this. Or I can simply type into
the design editor and see where it lands up in the code. Whilst I prefer
most of the coding by hand the visual preview and editing helps sometimes.
There are no Tree Collapse features and it does not have the best of text
editors. I think it was last updated in 2010 and dont think MS came up with
a replacement or update.

I tried ATOM with the HTML preview package but still not the same.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
>
>> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues
>> with
>> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>>
>>
> At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup in
> mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am not
> having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better editor
> and validator.
>
> What HTML doctype do you validate these with?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> xxx
> "There must be ingenuity as well as intention, strategy as well as
> strength. "
>
>



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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah 
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:

> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues with
> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>
>
At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup in
mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am not
having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better editor
and validator.

What HTML doctype do you validate these with?





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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Lee Hinde 
Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues with
the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.

When i've got something mismatched in a large file, I validate the
displayed page, i.e, load the page (as best you can) in the browser, get
the source and validate that. Sometimes the errors in the built page will
get you close.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

> Is there a magic tool that can find a mismatched tag in several hundred
> lines of HTML Code?
>
> One which can work with embedded 4D Tags??
>
> ;-)
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah 
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Timothy Penner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Have you tried ATOM ?
> https://atom.io/
>
>

Many Thanks for the suggestion. Installed both.

What exactly does the Miyako plugin do?




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Re: Line Breaks in 4D Loop

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah 
Thanks Neil you are spot on!

Whereas  works in the rest of the document it does not work in the
loop.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Neil Dennis  wrote:

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> What is your document type? If you are using XHTML try using a 
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> Have you looked at the output? What is being sent instead of ?
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[MEETING] Montreal 4D Club Meeting

2016-10-16 Thread Thierry Daigneault 
The next meeting of the Montreal 4D Club will be held Wednesday October 19th at 
7 PM.

The schedule for the next meeting is as follows:
News
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- Open meeting. Bring your questions and your presentations.
End of the meeting

We usually end up at some sort of restaurant after each meeting. Come and join 
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Questions about workers

2016-10-16 Thread Foucauld Perotin 
Hi,

I have some questions about workers. Sorry if it is obvious for some of you. I 
still don’t feel so comfortable with this new stuff. 

- May the workers be local processes? (naming them with a $, I guess)

- What about the stack size ? I see nothing about that, and I do not understand 
why. I guess the stack will have the mystery "default size", but I’m not 
sure... ;)

- I know that preemptive execution implies no interprocess variables. OK. But, 
if the preemptive aspect is not a priority for me now, can I still use 
inteprocess variables without any problem in my workers?

– Is the use of workers not for a high velocity compute section of an app, but 
for a regular part, with basic records filling and so, reasonable or not? with 
the idea to call the worker-process by the "call form" command, when needed). 
Why would I do that? Because some of my apps have a concept of several 
permanent processes with reuse of those. So, the workers would be better than 
the processes which are most of the time sleeping, then wake up, then go back 
to sleep, and so on...

Thanks for your upcoming replies! :)

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Re: Editing object arrays in dynamically built columns

2016-10-16 Thread Wendell Turner 
HI John.

I got stuck on this issue for a half day before seeing your response below. 
Thanks for pointing it out.

Wendell Turner

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 22:43, truegold  wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Never mind! I found it.
> 
> Need to make sure that the listbox property Entry->Focusable is clicked. 
> Change the “Focusable” property in design and now the column is editable.
> 
> Ugggh! Spent 1/2 day diagnosing that.
> 
> John...
> 
>> Hey All,
>> 
>> Using 4D v15r2 standalone Macintosh (Yes I have a license one 4D View (4D 
>> View Pro is native 4D behavior)), read the docs, reviewed any and all 
>> examples of listbox edit/enterable in Nabble...
>> 
>> I am using Object Arrays in list boxes (single selection mode) dynamically 
>> built from a LB with zero columns.
>> 
>> Currently I am just playing with the examples in the docs under the section 
>> “Using object arrays in columns (4D View Pro)”. Just placing the listbox on 
>> a form and dynamically building them using the 4D sample code examples and 
>> displays correctly.
>> 
>> The docs say that based upon the valueType 4D uses various default widgets 
>> (probably where 4D View Pro comes in) i.e., "text" is displayed as a text 
>> input widget, a "boolean" as a check box, and so on. The UI part appears to 
>> work nicely. As for actual editing...
>> 
>> The drop downs, popups, Boolean are changeable in the Column (although I 
>> have yet to work on code to make th changes back to the array). But, and 
>> this is where I am looking for help, text and numeric values are not 
>> editable.
>> 
>> I have tried setting the column to be editable using OBJECT SET ENTERABLE 
>> and EDIT ITEM and Option click, Option+.
>> 
>> For example:
>> 
>> EDIT ITEM(colVar_p->;row)
>> 
>> But neither seems to work.
>> 
>> I know the column pointer ‘colVar_p‘ is correct because if I use this code
>> 
>> OBJECT SET VISIBLE(colVar_p->;False)
>> 
>> It is in fact hidden.
>> 
>> And the variable ‘row’ has the correct cell number.
>> 
>> In fact I have added another column that is just an array of text values and 
>> I cannot change it into an edit mode either? So is there something about 
>> having an object array in a listbox...?
>> 
>> So I am missing something? Is there a command I need to set as I am building 
>> it dynamically?
>> 
>> Does anyone else have any experience working with object arrays in list 
>> boxes?
>> 
>> Any tips or tricks necessary? And code examples specific to handling object 
>> arrays in columns in list boxes?
>> 
>> Appreciate,
>> John…
>> 
> 
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