FTP_receive with long filenames

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Using v13.5 ...

I'm trying to download some files from a client's FTP site. The files have
quite long names - e.g.:
53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg

So here's some test code:

fr_tImageToGet:=fr_WebDirectory+"53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg"
// returns "/imagecache/53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg"
fr_tImageSavePath:=fr_tImagesToDirectory+"53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg"
// returns "Macintosh
HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg"
fr_err:=FTP_ChangeDir (vFTP_ID;"/")
fr_err:=FTP_Receive (vFTP_ID;fr_tImageToGet;fr_tImageSavePath;1)

Doesn't download the file and returns an error -1

If I shorten the name of the file - e.g.:
Macintosh HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:3cac519f-0bff.jpg

It downloads the file, no problem.

I can work around it by downloading with a temporary (short) name and then
renaming it, but why? Are filenames referenced in FTP_Receive limited to 32
characters?

Thanks!

Pat


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Re: 4D Forums feature request - keep it the same

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:04:49 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote:
> the forum is also where online services offered as part of the 
> partner program are available,
> such as downloads and discussions of nightly builds, beta/R versions 
> and source code of 4D internal components / widgets.
> 
> you might have not noticed,
> but forum accounts are already tied to partner program subscription 
> or license (maintenance) activation accounts.
> we just do it (and undo it) manually and/or annually.

I would NOT have noticed, as the login credentials I use on the forum 
have nothing to do with the 4D store/partner credentials I use, and as 
far as I know there is no linkage between the two.

I am looking at the forum site now. There is no (apparent) information 
regarding betas, nightly builds etc.
so... it appears I am right, that there is no tie (currently) between 
my forum account and my partner/4d store accounts.
AS IT SHOULD BE

especially since the I don't really care about the login at the forum.
if someone were to 'hack' it and take it over... oh well.
I would create a new account, and ask 4D to kill the old one.


This is obviously NOT the same situation if the forum login credentials 
are tied to $$$


>> 2017/07/28 2:11、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>> why do i need to use a login credential which will likely have
>> financial information behind it (partner/store) to access a purportedly
>> open public forum?
> 
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Re: 4D Forums feature request - keep it the same

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

one more thing I just noticed.

I the forum has a persistent login.
By this I mean, yesterday, I loved into the forums.
Closed the browser window (not the browser)
today I opened a new browser window (in reference to my previous 
comment)
I was still logged in.

THAT is also an issue with the forum.
again, especially if there are $$$ tied to the login.


On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:04:49 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote:
> the forum is also where online services offered as part of the 
> partner program are available,
> such as downloads and discussions of nightly builds, beta/R versions 
> and source code of 4D internal components / widgets.
> 
> you might have not noticed,
> but forum accounts are already tied to partner program subscription 
> or license (maintenance) activation accounts.
> we just do it (and undo it) manually and/or annually.
> 
>> 2017/07/28 2:11、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>> why do i need to use a login credential which will likely have
>> financial information behind it (partner/store) to access a purportedly
>> open public forum?
> 
> 
> 
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"Inspect Element" in 4D web area

[Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech]

Is there a way to turn off the "Inspect Element" contextual menu item in a 4D 
v15 web area (Mac)? The "Context Menu" property doesn't seem to do anything.

Thanks...
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Re: "Inspect Element" in 4D web area

[Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech]

Jeff,
Web area set preference is what you want -
http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/WA-SET-PREFERENCE.301-3317027.en.html



On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Is there a way to turn off the "Inspect Element" contextual menu item in a
> 4D v15 web area (Mac)? The "Context Menu" property doesn't seem to do
> anything.
>
> Thanks...
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Re: "Inspect Element" in 4D web area

[Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech]

Perfect - thanks!

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> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> 
> Jeff,
> Web area set preference is what you want -
> http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R4/4D/16-R4/WA-SET-PREFERENCE.301-3317027.en.html

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Re: zipping files

[Bart Davis via 4D_Tech]

This method works great on Mac without using any plugin.  I'm not sure if it 
can be tweaked to work on Windows. 



  //zipFolderItem(sourcePath{;archivePath)->archivePath
  // -- zip file or folder. If success returns archivePath

C_TEXT($0;$1;$2;$cmd;$sourcePath;$archivePath)
C_LONGINT($ctr)
C_BOOLEAN($addToExisting)

$sourcePath:=$1
If (Count parameters=1)
$archivePath:=$sourcePath+".zip"
Else 
$archivePath:=$2
If ($archivePath#"@.zip")
$archivePath:=$archivePath+".zip"
End if 
$addToExisting:=True
End if 

If (Not($addToExisting))
  // get unique archive path
While ((Test path name($archivePath)=Is a document) | (Test path 
name($archivePath)=Is a folder))
$ctr:=$ctr+1
$archivePath:=$sourcePath+" "+String($ctr)+".zip"
End while 
End if 

$sourcePath:=Convert path system to POSIX($sourcePath)
$archivePath:=Convert path system to POSIX($archivePath)
$cmd:="ditto -c -k '"+$sourcePath+"' '"+$archivePath+"'"

LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($cmd)

$archivePath:=Convert path POSIX to system($archivePath)

If (Test path name($archivePath)=Is a document)
$0:=$archivePath
End if 

> On Jul 28, 2017, at 9:15 AM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:24:26 -0600
> From: Jody Bevan 
> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Subject: zipping files
> Message-ID: <79da757f-505f-4dbf-be79-2604f8d53...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> I have looked through the Knowledgebase, and past nug posts. I tried PHP to 
> do this but got no where (something obviously I am doing).
> I ended up (thus far) with miyako’s 4D plugin for zipping.
> 
> I go into his test db and try it out and it works perfectly. So now I want to 
> implement in our shell.
> 
> I place the plugin in the Plugin folder of our application and restart.
> 
> That is fine, and I now have a plugin that loads at startup and when I write 
> code the plugin command shows up as a plugin and the constants as well.
> 
> I run the code and it always fails!
> 
> So any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? Is this actually a component and 
> not ‘just’ a plug-in and I have to do more?
> 
> Any help appreciated, as I continue to struggle with this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jody Bevan
> ARGUS Productions Inc.
> Developer
> Argus Productions Inc. 

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Re: Zipping files

[Aaron via 4D_Tech]

Hi Have you considered this for zipping files?

C_TEXT($command;$input;$output;$args;$err)
$command:="zip /users/aaron/documents/log.zip /users/aaron/documents/log.txt"
LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($command;$input;$output;$err)

on windows you could install 7zip, and use that

> On Jul 28, 2017, at 10:15 AM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote:
> 
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
thanks,
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RE: FTP_receive with long filenames

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Pat,

> I can work around it by downloading with a temporary (short) name and then 
> renaming it, but why? Are filenames referenced in FTP_Receive limited to 32 
> characters?

I thought the limit was 63 characters on Mac 32 bit up until and including 
v16.x:
http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Internet-Commandsv16/help/Title/en/page397.html
{
The FTP commands of 4D Internet Commands work with files whose names have a 
limited length. The following table provides the maximum number of characters 
based on the OS:
WindowsOS X
32 bits25563
64 bits2551024
}

However, starting with v16R2 this has been increased to 1024 on both platforms:
http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Internet-Commandsv16-R2/help/Title/en/page397.html
{
The FTP commands of 4D Internet Commands work with files whose names have a 
limited length. In 4D Internet Commands v16 R2 and higher, the maximum number 
of characters is 1024 whatever the OS.
}

Maybe the limit includes the path and not just the filename?

This is 85 chars: Macintosh 
HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg
This is 54 chars: Macintosh HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:3cac519f-0bff.jpg
This is 48 chars: 53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg
This is 17 chars: 3cac519f-0bff.jpg

Can you try v16R2 to see if the increased limit of 1024 helps?

-Tim



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Can 4D Objects create memory leaks?

[Tony Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech]

>v16

Is it possible to create memory leaks using 4D Objects?

 

If so, how?

 

(I’m wanting to make sure that I’m NOT creating leaks)

 

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Re: Can 4D Objects create memory leaks?

[Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech]

Tony:

It's a variable that respects 4D scoping rules so that should not happen.

That's one of the features of C_Object vs ObjectTools — also, you can see
what's in the Object vs having to use a separate editor window.

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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Tony Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> >v16
>
> Is it possible to create memory leaks using 4D Objects?
>
>
>
> If so, how?
>
>
>
> (I’m wanting to make sure that I’m NOT creating leaks)
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: Can 4D Objects create memory leaks?

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

Tony,
I do not use c_object - however...
since they are passed by reference, i would think that it would be 
possible to create object(s) in long lasting  process (run time), which 
unless explicitly disposed of (not sure how you do that - clear 
contents?)
would hang around until the client (or server if they created on the 
server) quits.

I would think - that loops which can create objects would be the place 
to look for/find object memory leaks.
something like this: Deamon process (stored procedure), runs on Server 
start

Repeat
  create object
  do something
  sleep
until (Quit)

otherwise - i would assume the 4D does cleanup when the process which 
spawned the object exits, the object(s) are cleared. 
Of course you could always make sure of this (I do with arrays, and 
sets) by explicitly clearing the object.


On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 13:53:33 -0500, Tony Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech wrote:
>> v16
> 
> Is it possible to create memory leaks using 4D Objects?
> 
>  
> 
> If so, how?
> 
>  
> 
> (I’m wanting to make sure that I’m NOT creating leaks)
> 
>  
> 
> TIA,
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
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> 
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> 
> 763-420-8686
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Re: FTP_receive with long filenames

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Hi Tim,
I did a test using v16r4 beta and it worked OK with the long filename. So
that's good :)
I did notice however that although I passed the 1 parameter in FTP_Receive

fr_err:=*FTP_Receive* (vFTP_ID;fr_tImageToGet;fr_tImageSavePath;1)


... it did NOT display a progress message, even when I used a bogus
filename to make it wait 30 seconds before timing out. Bug?


Pat

On 28 July 2017 at 17:21, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pat,
>
> > I can work around it by downloading with a temporary (short) name and
> then renaming it, but why? Are filenames referenced in FTP_Receive limited
> to 32 characters?
>
> I thought the limit was 63 characters on Mac 32 bit up until and including
> v16.x:
> http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Internet-Commandsv16/help/Title/en/page397.html
> {
> The FTP commands of 4D Internet Commands work with files whose names have
> a limited length. The following table provides the maximum number of
> characters based on the OS:
> WindowsOS X
> 32 bits25563
> 64 bits2551024
> }
>
> However, starting with v16R2 this has been increased to 1024 on both
> platforms:
> http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Internet-Commandsv16-R2/help/
> Title/en/page397.html
> {
> The FTP commands of 4D Internet Commands work with files whose names have
> a limited length. In 4D Internet Commands v16 R2 and higher, the maximum
> number of characters is 1024 whatever the OS.
> }
>
> Maybe the limit includes the path and not just the filename?
>
> This is 85 chars: Macintosh HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:
> 53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg
> This is 54 chars: Macintosh HD:Users:patbensky:Desktop:3cac519f-0bff.jpg
> This is 48 chars: 53ee6f6f-3c81-41ae-b001-a5a000baebbc_350x271.jpg
> This is 17 chars: 3cac519f-0bff.jpg
>
> Can you try v16R2 to see if the increased limit of 1024 helps?
>
> -Tim
>
>
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4D Blog posts about New Features in v16R4

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi All,

New blog posts presenting 4D v16 R4 features have been getting published at a 
rapid pace!

Here is a list of blog posts from this week:

* Finely control your tips in 4D
http://blog.4d.com/finely-control-tips-in-4d/

* Retrieve the license information by programming
http://blog.4d.com/retrieve-the-license-information-by-programming/

* Create your own process and user monitoring
http://blog.4d.com/create-your-own-process-and-user-monitoring/

* Define the tab order by programming
http://blog.4d.com/define-the-tab-order-by-programming/

I am only including the posts from this week in this recap, but if you haven’t 
looked at the blog lately then there is a lot more to review!

All of the posts on the blog are categorized via tags which makes it very easy 
to find the posts specific to a certain version. Here are some links to the 
v16Rx tags.

v16R2 features (released March 28th 2017): http://blog.4d.com/tag/v16-r2/
v16R3 features (released June 28th 2017): http://blog.4d.com/tag/v16-r3/
v16R4 features (currently in beta): http://blog.4d.com/tag/v16-r4/
v16R5 features (no posts yet): http://blog.4d.com/tag/v16-r5/

All of the v16Rx posts are also tagged with v17 making all of the v17 features 
available from the following link:
http://blog.4d.com/tag/v17/

Similarly, all of the v15Rx blog posts are available under the v16 tag:
http://blog.4d.com/tag/v16/

We have a dedicated forum for Beta testers to provide feedback on the current 
Beta version (currently v16R4):
http://forums.4d.com/Forum/EN/14234613/0/0
This Beta and the Beta forum is only available to Silver/Gold/Platinum/Elite 
Partners.
It should automatically be available to people that login to Forums.4d.com 
using a valid/current Partner Account (the new SSO/global login system).

Feel free to give us feedback about the new features in the dedicated thread 
within the Beta forum:
http://forums.4d.com/Post/EN/19769621/1/19769622#19769622


Kind Regards,

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RE: FTP_receive with long filenames

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Pat,

> ... it did NOT display a progress message, even when I used a bogus filename 
> to make it wait 30 seconds before timing out. Bug?

I assume you are using 64 bit. If so, then no, it's not a bug:
http://livedoc.4d.com/4Dv15/help/Title/en/page3838.html
{
Unsupported interface features

With respect to OS X user interface specificities, the following features are 
not supported in the 64-bit version of 4D Internet Commands for OS X.

Progress bar
The 4D IC 64-bit version for OS X does not display a progress bar when 
executing time-consuming operations. The FTP_Progress FTP_Progress command is 
deprecated in the 64-bit version of OS X.
When called in this environment, the command returns error -2201 (unimplemented 
feature).

File selector dialog
File selector dialog boxes cannot be displayed by the 4D IC 64-bit version 
plug-in for OS X. With this version, localPath or hostPath parameters are 
mandatory and must contain valid file paths; otherwise an error -2201 
(unimplemented feature) is returned. This syntax concerns all commands that 
handle file names, including FTP, IMAP, MSG, POP, SMTP, and IT commands.
If you want the user to select files from their computer, we recommend that you 
call 4D's built-in commands, such as Select document.
}



-Tim



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Re: 4D Blog posts about New Features in v16R4

[David Adams via 4D_Tech]

Tim,

Thanks a *lot* for posting a message about the latest Blog posts. I really
like the Blog but forget to visit it regularly. For anyone on this list
that hasn't checked out the 4D Blog yet (or lately), check it out. It's
really nice technical/marketing material. Good quick introductions to
features and techniques, often with sample code and even databases to go
with.

Good stuff.
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