Re: Saving open windows in Design environment feature

[Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech]

> Le 9 janv. 2018 à 23:57, Jim Labos - infobase via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a écrit :
> 
>> There is no equivalent to the METHOD OPEN PATH command that opens the forms
>> instead of code.

> I put in a 4D feature Request in order to do this but have not checked if it 
> was done.

Hi Jim, 
not added, to my knowledge. I wanted to add some stars to your feature but I 
don't find it: some link? 
The same feature is expected since a while (twice):


This one related, open the form parent of the current form/object method:


In the passed I sometimes had to open a form from code by sending events to 
explorer window, but it's cumbersome. 

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"Are you sure you want to open the structure file in read only mode" - Windows 7

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Customer has installed our merged app (built using 4D v13) on his PC
(Windows 7 with the latest updates installed).
When he tries to run it he gets the message "Are you sure you want to open
the structure file in read only mode?"
He clicks OK and it crashes (crash report below).

I guess it's a permissions issue. The application is installed in the
user's Programs (x86) folder.
I've read threads on this topic, but they all relate to MacOS.

Of course it works perfectly well on my Windows 7 machine ...

Any ideas?

Pat





Crash report:

*Problem signature:*

  Problem Event Name:APPCRASH

  Application Name: CatBase.exe

  Application Version:   13.5.158.796

  Application Timestamp: 533d4451

  Fault Module Name:  Kernel.dll

  Fault Module Version:0.0.0.0

  Fault Module Timestamp:  533d30ee

  Exception Code:  c005

  Exception Offset:000610f6

  OS Version:  6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4

  Locale ID: 2057

  Additional Information 1:  f93a

  Additional Information 2:
f93a83e2cef46e5456c5d9b38578601b

  Additional Information 3:  e979
  Additional Information 4:
e97933ce96e1d559a7a0540a99b09832

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Re: PDFs in web areas & High Sierra broken?

[Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech]

Yeah, "only" the current OS on the Mac side in the versions most of are 
deploying... lol.

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> On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:38 AM, Alfonso Zafon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> It's a new bug, High Sierra 10.13.2 and only for 4D 32 bits.

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BRING TO FRONT for process windows minimized

[John DeSoi via 4D_Tech]

Not sure if this is a new problem in version 16 (16.3 64-bit Mac) or just 
something I never realized. BRING TO FRONT does nothing if the window is 
minimized in the dock. You need to call SHOW PROCESS first even though PROCESS 
PROPERTIES indicates the process is visible. 

Also, windows minimized in the dock are not included in the WINDOW LIST. All of 
this makes it a lot more complicated to use CALL FORM when all you have is a 
process number and need to determine the window reference.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

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v12 & v13 server - compatability with OS X High Sierra (10.13)

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

I understand these versions are NOT certified.
anyone have experience?
do wither of these versions of 4D worK on High Sierra (10.13)?


Thanks!
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Re: BRING TO FRONT for process windows minimized

[Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech]

Always use the commands in Win32 API to determine windows mimize state!
Also to restore it
Providing you are on windows that is…

> Am 10.01.2018 um 16:18 schrieb John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>:
> 
> Not sure if this is a new problem in version 16 (16.3 64-bit Mac) or just 
> something I never realized. BRING TO FRONT does nothing if the window is 
> minimized in the dock. You need to call SHOW PROCESS first even though 
> PROCESS PROPERTIES indicates the process is visible. 
> 
> Also, windows minimized in the dock are not included in the WINDOW LIST. All 
> of this makes it a lot more complicated to use CALL FORM when all you have is 
> a process number and need to determine the window reference.
> 
> John DeSoi, Ph.D.
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Re: Saving open windows in Design environment feature

[Jim Labos - infobase via 4D_Tech]

I can't find my request now but certain I had put one on. Maybe because it is
exactly same as ;
 

In any case they do have the request in.  I am assuming that it would not be
a big deal to implement. If we can do it with a keystroke, doing it with
code should be even simpler.

Jim Labos - infobase



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Re: v12 & v13 server - compatability with OS X High Sierra (10.13)

[Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech]

chip,

A big issue we’re seeing with v13.5 and High Sierra is copy/paste.

Pasting works fine in design environment, but in runtime, at random times, it 
can cause the app to go ‘rainbow cursor’ for a couple minutes before the Mac 
gives up and returns control to the user…and you don’t end up with your pasted 
text in place either.

Unfortunately, the user generally thinks the app has crashed after maybe 30 
seconds.

I don’t know if this is in certain window types on Mac, or just dialogs.

I just tried some random tests to try and make it fail, but of course 
everything worked fine. Perhaps the yesterday’s MacOS update fixed it for me??

Now I have to look into this too.

Randy

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> On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
> > wrote:
> 
> I understand these versions are NOT certified.
> anyone have experience?
> do wither of these versions of 4D worK on High Sierra (10.13)?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> Chip
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Re: v12 & v13 server - compatability with OS X High Sierra (10.13)

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

THANKS!
actually, if this happens, v13 OS X 10.13 on a new mini, it will NOT be 
client side, it will be for the server.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:48:20 -0500, Randy Jaynes wrote:
> chip,
> 
> A big issue we’re seeing with v13.5 and High Sierra is copy/paste.
> 
> Pasting works fine in design environment, but in runtime, at random 
> times, it can cause the app to go ‘rainbow cursor’ for a couple 
> minutes before the Mac gives up and returns control to the user…and 
> you don’t end up with your pasted text in place either.
> 
> Unfortunately, the user generally thinks the app has crashed after 
> maybe 30 seconds.
> 
> I don’t know if this is in certain window types on Mac, or just dialogs.
> 
> I just tried some random tests to try and make it fail, but of course 
> everything worked fine. Perhaps the yesterday’s MacOS update fixed 
> it for me??
> 
> Now I have to look into this too.
> 
> Randy
> 
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> PrintPoint, Inc • 57 Ludlow Lane • Palisades, NY 10964 
> Please send all email contacts to supp...@printpoint.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote:
>> 
>> I understand these versions are NOT certified.
>> anyone have experience?
>> do wither of these versions of 4D worK on High Sierra (10.13)?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Chip
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Re: BRING TO FRONT for process windows minimized

[John Baughman via 4D_Tech]

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 5:18 AM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> All of this makes it a lot more complicated to use CALL FORM when all you 
> have is a process number and need to determine the window reference.

I posted earlier about using a worker process to spawn processes. When the 
worker creates a new process the new process window becomes the front most 
window long enough to allow the worker to get the window ref...


//myWorkerProcess

$frontmostWindow:=Frontmost window  
vXYZProcessNumber:=New process(“XYZProcessMethod”;0;”XYZProcessName")

While ($frontmostWindow=Frontmost window)
IDLE

End while 

vXYZProcessWindowRef:= Frontmost window


Now anytime you need the window ref to bring the window forward, or for a CALL 
FORM, you can ask the worker for it. Or, as I am doing, have the worker execute 
the desired action.

John

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Re: BRING TO FRONT for process windows minimized

[Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech]

Hi John,

This has been reported as ACI0096836.

It isn’t fixed in v16.2, but I don’t know beyond that.

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> On Jan 10, 2018, at 8:18 AM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this is a new problem in version 16 (16.3 64-bit Mac) or just 
> something I never realized. BRING TO FRONT does nothing if the window is 
> minimized in the dock. You need to call SHOW PROCESS first even though 
> PROCESS PROPERTIES indicates the process is visible. 
> 
> Also, windows minimized in the dock are not included in the WINDOW LIST. All 
> of this makes it a lot more complicated to use CALL FORM when all you have is 
> a process number and need to determine the window reference.

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Re: BRING TO FRONT for process windows minimized

[John Baughman via 4D_Tech]

Actually, now that I think about it, I do not think that there is a way to ask 
the worker for the window ref. I think you have to have the worker issue the 
CALL FORM or BRING TO FRONT

> On Jan 10, 2018, at 6:56 AM, John Baughman via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Now anytime you need the window ref to bring the window forward, or for a 
> CALL FORM, you can ask the worker for it. Or, as I am doing, have the worker 
> execute the desired action.

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Re: "Are you sure you want to open the structure file in read only mode" - Windows 7

[Jim Hays via 4D_Tech]

We install our Windows apps in our own folder instead of Programs (x86).
We've been doing it "forever" so I don't remember if that was specifically
why, but I suspect it is.
Windows doesn't want an app writing to it's own directory.

Or, have them right-click on the EXE and Run as Administrator - that might
solve it, but it is a pain to have to do that every time.


HTH,

Jim Hays


On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:09 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Customer has installed our merged app (built using 4D v13) on his PC
> (Windows 7 with the latest updates installed).
> When he tries to run it he gets the message "Are you sure you want to open
> the structure file in read only mode?"
> He clicks OK and it crashes (crash report below).
>
> I guess it's a permissions issue. The application is installed in the
> user's Programs (x86) folder.
> I've read threads on this topic, but they all relate to MacOS.
>
> Of course it works perfectly well on my Windows 7 machine ...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
> Crash report:
>
> *Problem signature:*
>
>   Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
>
>   Application Name: CatBase.exe
>
>   Application Version:   13.5.158.796
>
>   Application Timestamp: 533d4451
>
>   Fault Module Name:  Kernel.dll
>
>   Fault Module Version:0.0.0.0
>
>   Fault Module Timestamp:  533d30ee
>
>   Exception Code:  c005
>
>   Exception Offset:000610f6
>
>   OS Version:  6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4
>
>   Locale ID: 2057
>
>   Additional Information 1:  f93a
>
>   Additional Information 2:
> f93a83e2cef46e5456c5d9b38578601b
>
>   Additional Information 3:  e979
>   Additional Information 4:
> e97933ce96e1d559a7a0540a99b09832
>
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Re: "Are you sure you want to open the structure file in read only mode" - Windows 7

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Hi Jim,
Do you mean at c:/users/username/
?

Thanks
Pat

On 10 January 2018 at 20:47, Jim Hays via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> We install our Windows apps in our own folder instead of Programs (x86).
> We've been doing it "forever" so I don't remember if that was specifically
> why, but I suspect it is.
> Windows doesn't want an app writing to it's own directory.
>
> Or, have them right-click on the EXE and Run as Administrator - that might
> solve it, but it is a pain to have to do that every time.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Jim Hays
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:09 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> > Customer has installed our merged app (built using 4D v13) on his PC
> > (Windows 7 with the latest updates installed).
> > When he tries to run it he gets the message "Are you sure you want to
> open
> > the structure file in read only mode?"
> > He clicks OK and it crashes (crash report below).
> >
> > I guess it's a permissions issue. The application is installed in the
> > user's Programs (x86) folder.
> > I've read threads on this topic, but they all relate to MacOS.
> >
> > Of course it works perfectly well on my Windows 7 machine ...
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Crash report:
> >
> > *Problem signature:*
> >
> >   Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
> >
> >   Application Name: CatBase.exe
> >
> >   Application Version:   13.5.158.796
> >
> >   Application Timestamp: 533d4451
> >
> >   Fault Module Name:  Kernel.dll
> >
> >   Fault Module Version:0.0.0.0
> >
> >   Fault Module Timestamp:  533d30ee
> >
> >   Exception Code:  c005
> >
> >   Exception Offset:000610f6
> >
> >   OS Version:
> 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.4
> >
> >   Locale ID: 2057
> >
> >   Additional Information 1:  f93a
> >
> >   Additional Information 2:
> > f93a83e2cef46e5456c5d9b38578601b
> >
> >   Additional Information 3:  e979
> >   Additional Information 4:
> > e97933ce96e1d559a7a0540a99b09832
> >
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