RE: 4D Write PRO expressions

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

> What’s the difference between these 2-URLs.
> doc.4d.com
> cdn.doc.4d.com

Nothing really... CDN is an alias to the other;

$ nslookup doc.4d.com
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:doc.4d.com
Address:  91.134.136.116


$ nslookup cdn.doc.4d.com
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:doc.4d.com
Address:  91.134.136.116
Aliases:  cdn.doc.4d.com

-Tim



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Re: 4D Write PRO expressions

[Jeremy French via 4D_Tech]

Hi Miyako,

What’s the difference between these 2-URLs. 

doc.4d.com 

cdn.doc.4d.com 


- Jeremy French


> On Jul 17, 2018, at 4:16 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> http://cdn.doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/SET-ALLOWED-METHODS.301-3548364.en.html
>  
> 

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Re: 4D Write PRO expressions

[Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech]

Dammit! I read that, but had totally forgotten about it…

In the documentation, the error is even mentioned: ## ERROR # 48! 

Strangely, when you search the on line documentation for ## ERROR # 48, it 
doesn’t find it …

Thanks Keisuke, you saved my day (again ;-))


Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 



> On 17 Jul 2018, at 22:16, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> did you explicitly call SET ALLOWED METHODS?
> 
> http://cdn.doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/SET-ALLOWED-METHODS.301-3548364.en.html
> 
> http://cdn.doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/Filter-expressions-contained-in-a-4D-Write-Pro-document.300-3605842.en.html
> 
> 2018/07/17 20:36、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
> I inserted an expression in a 4D Write PRO area, and the expression is 
> actually a method returning a text in $0:
> 4WRPRO_INSERT(“test”)
> Any ideas why it is not working in 4D Write PRO?
> 
> 
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Re: Write Pro - V17 Printing Background JPEGs

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

could it be that you are printing section anchored images in HTML WYSIWYG mode?

http://doc.4d.com/4Dv17/4D/17/Handling-pictures.200-3726275.en.html

http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16/4D/16/WP-PRINT.301-3048109.en.html


2018/07/18 5:23、Stephen Shaw via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:

I hope someone can see a problem with this.

When printing from a WP page, everything is fine using the contextual menu 
print command, but printing to file (PDF) on the Mac (10.13.6) the embedded JPG 
is missing. An inline graphic in the text is fine.

Is this a known limitation or is there some trick to this? I have a routine 
which prepares the PDF and then emails it out and at present we have incomplete 
documents

Many thanks in anticipation



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​RE: Server Monitoring...

[steve simpson via 4D_Tech]

https://uptimerobot.com/

Pretty robust; all kinds of triggers (IP, port, url, keyword, etc); easy to
configure. Up to 50 sites free. Bulletproof last few years for several
dozen projects.
-
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Re: Write Pro - V17 Printing Background JPEGs

[Stephen Shaw via 4D_Tech]

I hope someone can see a problem with this.

When printing from a WP page, everything is fine using the contextual menu 
print command, but printing to file (PDF) on the Mac (10.13.6) the embedded JPG 
is missing. An inline graphic in the text is fine. 

Is this a known limitation or is there some trick to this? I have a routine 
which prepares the PDF and then emails it out and at present we have incomplete 
documents

Many thanks in anticipation


Steve Shaw
UK

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Re: 4D Write PRO expressions

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

did you explicitly call SET ALLOWED METHODS?

http://cdn.doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/SET-ALLOWED-METHODS.301-3548364.en.html

http://cdn.doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/Filter-expressions-contained-in-a-4D-Write-Pro-document.300-3605842.en.html

2018/07/17 20:36、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
I inserted an expression in a 4D Write PRO area, and the expression is actually 
a method returning a text in $0:
4WRPRO_INSERT(“test”)
Any ideas why it is not working in 4D Write PRO?



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RE: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

[David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech]

Robert,

We’ve used IsItUp for many years.

David Ringsmuth

From: Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:10 PM
To: 4D iNug Technical
Cc: Robert ListMail
Subject: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

I saw that thread and thought I read it thoroughly, wasn’t that about remote 
access and administration of computers not on your local network? I’m looking 
to be notified that a server is no longer responding... a server that has 
crashed or is down or unreachable for some reason. Isn’t that a different 
subject matter?

Thanks,

Robert 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> you might also be interested in:
> 
> Alternative à RDP (http://forums.4d.com/Post/FR/24803223/1/24818538#24818538)
> 
> which mentions
> 
> TSPLUS (https://www.tsplus.net/)
> guacamole (https://guacamole.apache.org/)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Server Monitoring...

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

I wanted this for an internal server but I now see where this can be useful for 
many nodes. 

Thanks,

Robert

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Justin Will  wrote:
> 
> I have been using the freeware version of PRTG with great success for about a 
> decade now.  It has saved my tail many times.

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Re: Server Monitoring...

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

Thanks Kirk, I’ll take a look.  The one Lutz mentioned looks good too. 

I appreciate the feedback. 

Robert

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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> Robert,
> I've been using Alertra for several years now.

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Re: Server Monitoring...

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

Hi Lutz,

That’s exactly what I was looking for. 

Thanks,

Robert

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:12 AM, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> NAGIOS works very well, all our servers are monitored by NAGIOS. And that by 
> simply monitoring the http(s) ports.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards
> Lutz

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Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

I saw that thread and thought I read it thoroughly, wasn’t that about remote 
access and administration of computers not on your local network? I’m looking 
to be notified that a server is no longer responding... a server that has 
crashed or is down or unreachable for some reason. Isn’t that a different 
subject matter?

Thanks,

Robert 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:01 AM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> you might also be interested in:
> 
> Alternative à RDP (http://forums.4d.com/Post/FR/24803223/1/24818538#24818538)
> 
> which mentions
> 
> TSPLUS (https://www.tsplus.net/)
> guacamole (https://guacamole.apache.org/)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Server Monitoring...

[Justin Will via 4D_Tech]

Robert

I have been using the freeware version of PRTG with great success for about a 
decade now.  It has saved my tail many times.

Thanks
Justin
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4D Write Pro range / elements

[Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech]

I have a 4WR PRO area on a form. It is associated with the field 
[_10_Report_templates]Template_WRPRO.

I added 2 tables in it.

I wrote a table editor, so the attributes of a table can be changed after it 
has been created.
For that to work, I need to get the table object in order to change it.

When I put the cursor inside one of the tables, I can get the selection and 
then the table object that the cursor is in.

$range:=WP Get selection([_10_Report_templates]Template_WRPRO)  
cTBLelements:=WP Get elements($range;wk type table)

cTBLelements[0] will have the table object.


This used to work until now… (4D v17, MacOS High Sierra)
Now, it either returns an empty object or always the first table, no matter 
where the cursor is.

Did anybody have the same experience?

Overal, I have the impression that the start/end of a range is not always 
correct…



Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 



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RE: Who’s the Gestapo?

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Robert,

The official email address of the list admin is 4d_tech-ow...@lists.4d.com 
(it’s a group).

The official email address to post to the list is 4D_Tech@lists.4d.com (if 
messages are sent elsewhere they will not show up on the list).

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With that being said, please send the relevant information about the problem to 
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The relevant information needed in order to investigate the situation is:
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- a copy of the sent item they tried to post (please forward the sent item as 
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-Tim PENNER



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Re: v17 ready for prime time?

[Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech]

Hey Steve,
I am really impressed with v17 and recommend it for all your new projects.

I also strongly recommend reading the blog. It's not just pretty. The posts
about the new v17 features are really worthwhile. The way you can associate
a collection with a listbox now is remarkably powerful once you get it. And
the options and implications for using ORDA are really profound. But
really, really different from the way we've been doing things. So if you
start designing a new project without some understanding of what you can
accomplish with ORDA it's a bit like getting that new Porsche and only
using the first two gears. Still goes like hell but you're missing out on a
lot.

I re-watched the videos of Thomas Maul and Laurant from the Summit
yesterday. I got so much more from it now that I've been using v17. I
really recommend taking a look at them. The fact that you _can_ work with
v17 exactly the way you have worked with pretty much every version since
v11 doesn't mean you should. Especially on a new project.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 2:06 PM steve simpson via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>  Is it ready?
>

-- 
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Re: Server Monitoring...

[Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech]

Robert,
I've been using Alertra for several years now. It monitors web servers
which works for me because the only 4D installs I need to worry about have
webservers plus a few others I watch. You can adjust the ping rate from a
few seconds to - well I don't actually recall how long you can wait - and
what you are charged varies accordingly. You can choose to be emailed or
texted or both.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:09 AM Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> I just realized that a headless local server (that provides some
> low-demand network resources) has been unresponsive for about 7 days. Do
> you monitor your local (and not local) servers with special software? I’m
> mainly wanting to know if the are up or are responding to a ping or
> something.  Not looking for remote access.
>
> Yes I know, I know we are all programmers ... :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

[Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech]

Tom,

This is exactly one of the primary problems with RD.  We have been using Solar 
Winds Mini-Remote Control for years and love the product.  Fully supports 
Windows authentication, and provides many great options.

However, as it always seems to be with Corp IT, they don't like anything except 
RD even though they don't understand how it works.


Steve


-Original Message-
From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Benedict, Tom 
via 4D_Tech
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:52 AM
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Cc: Benedict, Tom 
Subject: Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

We have a number of 4D Servers which we run under a dedicated Windows Account. 
We use the same Windows Account to run all Production Servers on all machines. 
If someone needs to monitor the server they can do that via RDC using that 
Windows Account. That avoids any session confusion. However, it doesn't allow 
multiple users to monitor the same session and, since we run 4D Server from the 
desktop, rather than as a Windows Service, it also exposes the risk of the user 
accidentally 'logging off' instead of 'disconnecting' which causes 4D Server to 
quit. For these reasons we use RealVNC to monitor all servers, which is simply 
a screen sharing app.

Tom Benedict

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Re: What do you use to monitor your offsite servers?

[Benedict, Tom via 4D_Tech]

We have a number of 4D Servers which we run under a dedicated Windows Account. 
We use the same Windows Account to run all Production Servers on all machines. 
If someone needs to monitor the server they can do that via RDC using that 
Windows Account. That avoids any session confusion. However, it doesn't allow 
multiple users to monitor the same session and, since we run 4D Server from the 
desktop, rather than as a Windows Service, it also exposes the risk of the user 
accidentally 'logging off' instead of 'disconnecting' which causes 4D Server to 
quit. For these reasons we use RealVNC to monitor all servers, which is simply 
a screen sharing app.

>The issue as I understand it is this; Windows Server allows you to have 
>multiple sessions for users concurrently logged in.
>This can be confusing when multiple people connect expecting to administer the 
>same desktop, but instead of seeing a
>shared desktop they get their own desktop in their own session, even though 
>the app they are looking to administer (4D)
>is running  in another user session. To correct this they must be aware of the 
>session they are currently connected to
>and aware of the session that is running the app they want to administer.

Tom Benedict
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4D Write PRO expressions

[Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech]

I inserted an expression in a 4D Write PRO area, and the expression is actually 
a method returning a text in $0:

4WRPRO_INSERT(“test”)

However, when showing the values in stead of the references in the 4D Write PRO 
area, the value always shows ‘## ERROR # 48’

When I execute the method inside another method:

$result:=4WRPRO_INSERT(“test”)

the result is shown correctly, also when using ‘Execute formula’, so the method 
works.

I’ ve tried to debug the method, but the debugger doesn’t show when using it 
inside the 4D Write PRO area, like the method is not even called…


Any ideas why it is not working in 4D Write PRO?


Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 


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Re: v17 ready for prime time?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

I've been working quite extensively with it - haven't run into any issues
so far, and I'm loving the improvements to Write Pro.
PB

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 22:06, steve simpson via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> I see that a lot of you are using v17, doing active development with it,
> testing it out with current projects, etc. I don't normally move production
> projects into a new version until the xx.2 or xx.3 iterations, but am
> wondering if some of you who are actually using v17 in production could
> chime in with your opinion as to whether it is safe to move straight from
> v15.5 to v17 now, or best to move first to v16 and wait for a couple more
> updates to v17. Is it ready?
>
> -
> Stephen Simpson
> ​Cimarron Software​
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RE: Server Monitoring...

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

NAGIOS works very well, all our servers are monitored by NAGIOS. And that by 
simply monitoring the http(s) ports.

HTH

Regards
Lutz

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Server Monitoring...

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

I just realized that a headless local server (that provides some low-demand 
network resources) has been unresponsive for about 7 days. Do you monitor your 
local (and not local) servers with special software? I’m mainly wanting to know 
if the are up or are responding to a ping or something.  Not looking for remote 
access. 

Yes I know, I know we are all programmers ... :)

Thanks,

Robert


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Re: v17 ready for prime time?

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

Hi Steve, I’m about to use v17 on a new project. I’m confident that I can work 
through any teething issues with the support of 4D—they have always come 
through for me. 

Robert

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> On Jul 16, 2018, at 4:05 PM, steve simpson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I see that a lot of you are using v17... is it ready?

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Re: v17 ready for prime time?

[Balinder Walia via 4D_Tech]

Thanks guys I also have a new project and 4Dv17 would be perfect. This type
of feedback bad or good is very helpful.

Regards
Bal

On 17 July 2018 at 10:29, Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> We use v17 on a new project and didn't run into any issues at all. On the
> contrary, it is super stable and very reliable. Especially the ORDA stuff
> works amazingly well.
>
> Cheers,
> Tilman Haerdle
> extragroup GmbH
>
> > Am 16.07.2018 um 23:05 schrieb steve simpson via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com>:
> >
> > I see that a lot of you are using v17, doing active development with it,
> > testing it out with current projects, etc. I don't normally move
> production
> > projects into a new version until the xx.2 or xx.3 iterations, but am
> > wondering if some of you who are actually using v17 in production could
> > chime in with your opinion as to whether it is safe to move straight from
> > v15.5 to v17 now, or best to move first to v16 and wait for a couple more
> > updates to v17. Is it ready?
> >
> > -
> > Stephen Simpson
> > ​Cimarron Software​
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Re: v17 ready for prime time?

[Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech]

We use v17 on a new project and didn't run into any issues at all. On the 
contrary, it is super stable and very reliable. Especially the ORDA stuff works 
amazingly well.

Cheers,
Tilman Haerdle
extragroup GmbH

> Am 16.07.2018 um 23:05 schrieb steve simpson via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>:
> 
> I see that a lot of you are using v17, doing active development with it,
> testing it out with current projects, etc. I don't normally move production
> projects into a new version until the xx.2 or xx.3 iterations, but am
> wondering if some of you who are actually using v17 in production could
> chime in with your opinion as to whether it is safe to move straight from
> v15.5 to v17 now, or best to move first to v16 and wait for a couple more
> updates to v17. Is it ready?
> 
> -
> Stephen Simpson
> ​Cimarron Software​
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