Re: 4D v16 Server and Windows Server 2016

[Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech]

Thanks Tim, but access is tightly controlled - only RDC is an acceptable method.



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> On 20 Jul 2018, at 20:02, Timothy Penner  wrote:
> 
> VNC doesn't have the same limitation:
> http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77932
> 
> VNC can be installed via RDC, then connection to the machine could be done 
> via VNC.
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RE: SVG Shape With No Background

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

> Who might I ask about adding that to the documentation as I think it would be 
> helpful for others in the future?

If you think the documentation should be update you can always submit a comment 
to the doc team, or post a public note on the doc page:

Tech Tip: The Comments feature for the Documentation Site .
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77724

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Re: SVG Shape With No Background

[Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech]

> some time ago, we received a similar question from a customer,
> evidently it is intentional that opacity=0 is ignored (it is explicitly coded 
> that way).
> the explanation from the developer was that opacity=0 makes no sense and 
> "none" should be used instead.

I agree, it does make sense. I looked all over in the SVG documentation in the 
Colors and Gradients section and couldn’t find anything about using “none”. Who 
might I ask about adding that to the documentation as I think it would be 
helpful for others in the future?

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Re: SVG Shape With No Background

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

F.Y.I.

the source code of SVG component is available for partners.

some time ago, we received a similar question from a customer,
evidently it is intentional that opacity=0 is ignored (it is explicitly coded 
that way).
the explanation from the developer was that opacity=0 makes no sense and "none" 
should be used instead.

2018/07/21 0:05、Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:

$tRef:=SVG_New_circle ($tSVG;200;200;100;"red”;"none";10)

gives me a circle with no background.

So, never mind! :-)



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RE: 4D v16 Server and Windows Server 2016

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

VNC doesn't have the same limitation:
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77932

VNC can be installed via RDC, then connection to the machine could be done via 
VNC.

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RE: v13 (+?) - Find in design

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

Thanks Tim,

I will put up a feature request.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:26:54 +, Timothy Penner wrote:
> Hi Chip,
> 
> There have been some improvements to the Find in Design dialog in 
> newer version of 4D:
> https://blog.4d.com/improvement-of-find-in-design-dialog/
> https://blog.4d.com/export-results-of-find-in-design-dialog/
> 
> If you have any specific new features in mind that you would like to 
> see implemented in future versions of 4D, then I invite you to post 
> it as a topic to the Feature Request forums:
> http://forums.4d.com/Forum/EN/1075213/0/0
> 
> As a reminder, Feature requests are handled on the 4D Forums -
> 
> Having the feature requests handled through the forums is quite 
> valuable to the community because of the following:
> 
> 1. 4D Engineering participates on the 4D Forums, so you have the 
> opportunity to discuss the feature request in a more immediate 
> fashion.
> 
> 2. Other users can participate in the feature request discussion and 
> help refine the feature request so that it is appealing to more 
> users. Also, the more users who participate in the discussion, the 
> more visibility that particular feature request will have.
> 
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RE: v13 (+?) - Find in design

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Chip,

There have been some improvements to the Find in Design dialog in newer version 
of 4D:
https://blog.4d.com/improvement-of-find-in-design-dialog/
https://blog.4d.com/export-results-of-find-in-design-dialog/

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to the Feature Request forums:
http://forums.4d.com/Forum/EN/1075213/0/0

As a reminder, Feature requests are handled on the 4D Forums -

Having the feature requests handled through the forums is quite valuable to the 
community because of the following:

1. 4D Engineering participates on the 4D Forums, so you have the opportunity to 
discuss the feature request in a more immediate fashion.

2. Other users can participate in the feature request discussion and help 
refine the feature request so that it is appealing to more users. Also, the 
more users who participate in the discussion, the more visibility that 
particular feature request will have.

Kind Regards,

Tim PENNER



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Re: 4D Server as a Service

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ah, seems like it could've affected windows 10.

https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/windows-10-update-revisions-july-16-2018/

On 20 July 2018 at 17:43, James Wright 
wrote:

> There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers
> and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's applicable to windows server
> 2012.
>
> Might be worth reading these:
>
>
> https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/iis-web-server-strikes-
> after-update-kb4338818/
> https://blog.techygeekshome.info/2018/07/broken-microsoft-
> update-kb4338818/
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4345459/stop-error-
> 0xd1-after-a-race-condition-occurs-in-windows-7-service-pac
>
> Updates were from last week.
>
> Problems stopping services and the restarting them.
>
> There was a patch on Thursday, but we had to install it manually.
>
> James.
>
>
> On 20 July 2018 at 17:39, David Conley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
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>> Robert,
>>
>> We have experienced this on several windows computers as well.  In our
>> case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS.
>> Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem.  We
>> could manually start the database as a service and it starts just fine.  It
>> just seemed like the service was ignored by windows on startup.  We even
>> changed to automatic delayed start and that didn’t matter.  We haven’t
>> gotten to the bottom of this as of yet.  Seems like it was introduced by
>> some windows patch that was run in.  We are running 4D v16.3.
>>
>> I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the
>> problem so we can too.
>>
>> Regards,
>> David
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Re: 4D Server as a Service

[James Wright via 4D_Tech]

There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers
and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's applicable to windows server
2012.

Might be worth reading these:


https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/iis-web-server-strikes-after-update-kb4338818/
https://blog.techygeekshome.info/2018/07/broken-microsoft-update-kb4338818/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4345459/stop-error-0xd1-after-a-race-condition-occurs-in-windows-7-service-pac

Updates were from last week.

Problems stopping services and the restarting them.

There was a patch on Thursday, but we had to install it manually.

James.


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> Robert,
>
> We have experienced this on several windows computers as well.  In our
> case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS.
> Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem.  We
> could manually start the database as a service and it starts just fine.  It
> just seemed like the service was ignored by windows on startup.  We even
> changed to automatic delayed start and that didn’t matter.  We haven’t
> gotten to the bottom of this as of yet.  Seems like it was introduced by
> some windows patch that was run in.  We are running 4D v16.3.
>
> I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the
> problem so we can too.
>
> Regards,
> David
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Re: 4D Server as a Service

[David Conley via 4D_Tech]

Robert,

We have experienced this on several windows computers as well.  In our case 
they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS.  Nothing 
shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem.  We could manually 
start the database as a service and it starts just fine.  It just seemed like 
the service was ignored by windows on startup.  We even changed to automatic 
delayed start and that didn’t matter.  We haven’t gotten to the bottom of this 
as of yet.  Seems like it was introduced by some windows patch that was run in. 
 We are running 4D v16.3.

I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the 
problem so we can too.

Regards,
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Re: [Odd] Compiler directives

[Richard Wright via 4D_Tech]

Just think what might have happened if it had been

C_POINTER(ARYLSTBX_UPDATE_DISPLAY;${SQRT(-1)})



> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:24:19 -0400
> From: Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org 
> >
> 
> I came across this compiler directive:
> 
> C_POINTER(ARYLSTBX_UPDATE_DISPLAY;${-1})
> 
> ARYLSTBX_UPDATE_DISPLAY is a method. I have corrected it... but wow! 

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Re: v13 (+?) - Find in design

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

I'd like to have an option to ignore anything that appears in a
commented-out line.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 at 16:59, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech <
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> Supporting RegExp could be a way to construct more sophisticated queries.
>
> Regards
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> > does anyone else want  more capabilities with Find in Design?
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Re: Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

Somebody is answering the phones and he tells me that Herr Heubach is there
but he is talking on the phone and I should call back in 10 or 15 minutes.
I call back and he isn't there, or he's still on the phone ... so there are
at least 2 people in the office!

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>
> school holidays started last week in germany and as we germans tend to
> have some 30 days paid leave every year, it is quite possible that they are
> closed for a week or two of holidays )
>
> Cheers
>
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> > Am 20.07.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <
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> >
> > I ordered an upgrade for HMBarcode 3 days ago and despite numerous phone
> > calls and emails I haven't received my licence number. Nobody responds to
> > any emails and the person who answers the phone is becoming increasingly
> > impatient and downright rude!
> >
> > I'm getting desperate as I can't deploy my latest version!
> > Anybody have any inside info? What's going on over there?
> >
> > And secondly ...
> > Anybody know of an alternative to HMBarcode?
> >
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RE: v13 (+?) - Find in design

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

Supporting RegExp could be a way to construct more sophisticated queries.

Regards
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> does anyone else want  more capabilities with Find in Design?
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RE: 4D Server as a Service

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

I can only guess ...
We experienced something similar in the past, but always it reveals to be a 
problem caused by us. An example: Usually our server apps are updated 
automatically during the night, so the service hat to be restarted by the 
update script. In nearly all cases it works very well, but it happened that 
there were an error in the startup code of the new version and we got a 
problem. Not nice, but ...

If we are faced with such problems, I restart the server app as a normal 
application not as a service, only to look if there are some error messages 
thrown by the 4D server. Unfortunately all these messages are not logged into 
a file by 4D, so I have to go the way via application start.

Theoretically it could be a problem with the interactive services if you use 
them. These services are more and more restricted by Microsoft. We don't use 
them.

Finding the real cause of the problem is rather difficult or even not 
possible. If you restarted the service and all was going well there isn't any 
chance to get the cause. You can try to have a look at the Windows Eventlog 
but the messages by 4D are mostly not helpful.

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v13 (+?) - Find in design

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

does anyone else want  more capabilities with Find in Design?

I would like the ability to do multiple levels of query
ex:
Text contains "x"
and
Method name contains "Y

I would like to be able to do a query which allowed me to exclude 
something
text contains method name (
except
text contains method name (

and many other similar queries.
Does newer versions of 4D (version greater then 13) include such 
enhancements?
if not - would anyone be willing to support a feature request?

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4D Server as a Service

[Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech]

This morning, I received a call about a Windows server 2012 where 4D Server 
v15.6 was not running. Since it runs as a service it seems to normally survive 
reboots of the server when their IT guys are applying security patches to 
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Re: Who’s got the gazpacho?

[Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech]

:-)

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> Sorry, looking for the Paula Deen list.
>
> Keith - CDI
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Re: Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

[Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech]

Hi Pat,

school holidays started last week in germany and as we germans tend to have 
some 30 days paid leave every year, it is quite possible that they are closed 
for a week or two of holidays )

Cheers

Alex

> Am 20.07.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>:
> 
> I ordered an upgrade for HMBarcode 3 days ago and despite numerous phone
> calls and emails I haven't received my licence number. Nobody responds to
> any emails and the person who answers the phone is becoming increasingly
> impatient and downright rude!
> 
> I'm getting desperate as I can't deploy my latest version!
> Anybody have any inside info? What's going on over there?
> 
> And secondly ...
> Anybody know of an alternative to HMBarcode?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

[UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech]

Pat 
I have sent a couple of emails which are unanswered too over the last week, so 
don't take it personally. They have been so good in the past looking after me 
that I can only imagine that everyone is away due to some unexpected crisis. I 
hope you get sorted soon.
Steve 

On 20/07/2018, 15:22, "4D_Tech on behalf of Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

I ordered an upgrade for HMBarcode 3 days ago and despite numerous phone
calls and emails I haven't received my licence number. Nobody responds to
any emails and the person who answers the phone is becoming increasingly
impatient and downright rude!

I'm getting desperate as I can't deploy my latest version!
Anybody have any inside info? What's going on over there?

And secondly ...
Anybody know of an alternative to HMBarcode?

Thanks

Pat

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Re: SVG Shape With No Background

[Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech]

I guess I just needed to hit the Send button to figure it out. It turns out 
that I can pass “none” as a color. I don’t see it in the documentation 
anywhere, but the SVG component must just pass it through to the SVG layer. So:

$tRef:=SVG_New_circle ($tSVG;200;200;100;"red”;"none";10) 

gives me a circle with no background.

So, never mind! :-)

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> On Jul 20, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>   $tRef:=SVG_New_circle ($tSVG;200;200;100;"red";"white:0";10) 
> //“white:0” = transparent

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SVG Shape With No Background

[Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech]

Hi All,

What is the best way to draw a shape (circle, rectangle, etc.) without a 
background using the SVG component? I tried using a “transparent” color:

$tRef:=SVG_New_circle ($tSVG;200;200;100;"red";"white:0";10) 
//“white:0” = transparent

But it seems that if you pass a color like “white:0” where the transparency 
part after the colon is 0, it is ignored and the fill-opacity attribute is not 
set.

I can call SVG_SET_OPACITY after creating the shape and it will set it 
properly, but I wasn’t expecting to have to call another command to remove the 
background of an object. Is this the normal way of doing it? Is there a special 
color I can use that denotes transparent? Is “white:0” not working considered a 
bug?

Or is trying to set the transparency the wrong way to do it? I guess at the end 
of the day what I’m really after is for the XML to end up with this attribute:

fill=“none”

What is the best way of doing this?


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RE: Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

[Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech]

Pat,

Wow, I can safely state I've never experienced this with them.  As far as I 
know, there may only be 2 or 3 people in the company, so it's possible 
Christian is on holiday.

Best,


Steve


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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 9:23 AM
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Subject: Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

I ordered an upgrade for HMBarcode 3 days ago and despite numerous phone
calls and emails I haven't received my licence number. Nobody responds to
any emails and the person who answers the phone is becoming increasingly
impatient and downright rude!

I'm getting desperate as I can't deploy my latest version!
Anybody have any inside info? What's going on over there?

And secondly ...
Anybody know of an alternative to HMBarcode?

Thanks

Pat

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Anybody know what's going on at Heubach Media?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

I ordered an upgrade for HMBarcode 3 days ago and despite numerous phone
calls and emails I haven't received my licence number. Nobody responds to
any emails and the person who answers the phone is becoming increasingly
impatient and downright rude!

I'm getting desperate as I can't deploy my latest version!
Anybody have any inside info? What's going on over there?

And secondly ...
Anybody know of an alternative to HMBarcode?

Thanks

Pat

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4D v16 Server and Windows Server 2016

[Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech]

I am upgrading a database to V16 and this is going to be run on Windows 
Server 2016 as a service.  This has worked reasonably well with earlier 
windows servers.  I have looked at the various tech notes on the subject 
showing how to re-enable the interactive services detection service, but 
this apparently does not work with Remote Desktop Connection ( no 
mouse,keyboard events passed). This will be a VM and RDC is the only 
thing on offer to talk to it.


If you have Interact with the desktop turned off then you have no clue 
if and when 4D Server barfs with an error.


What do you wise folk do?

Regards

Uist Macdonald

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RE: Stackoverflow - was Who's ...

[Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech]

Personally I prefer "going to" the forum as I don't want my Inbox flooded, plus 
believe the web is a better experience than my Inbox.


Steve


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Subject: Stackoverflow - was Who's ...

it has the a similar problem to the 4D forum
it is a web based, forum which we have to go to rather then it coming 
to use (email)

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Stackoverflow - was Who's ...

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

it has the a similar problem to the 4D forum
it is a web based, forum which we have to go to rather then it coming 
to use (email)

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 21:58:55 -0400, Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech wrote:
> StackOverflow is great for pure, direct technical questions, but it 
> doesn’t allow for general discussions.
> 
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>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Andy Mercer via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We could also join the rest of the world and move to StackOverflow.
>> 
>> Andy Mercer
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