Re: 4D Server as a Service
ah, seems like it could've affected windows 10. https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/windows-10-update-revisions-july-16-2018/ On 20 July 2018 at 17:43, James Wright wrote: > There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers > and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's applicable to windows server > 2012. > > Might be worth reading these: > > > https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/iis-web-server-strikes- > after-update-kb4338818/ > https://blog.techygeekshome.info/2018/07/broken-microsoft- > update-kb4338818/ > https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4345459/stop-error- > 0xd1-after-a-race-condition-occurs-in-windows-7-service-pac > > Updates were from last week. > > Problems stopping services and the restarting them. > > There was a patch on Thursday, but we had to install it manually. > > James. > > > On 20 July 2018 at 17:39, David Conley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> Robert, >> >> We have experienced this on several windows computers as well. In our >> case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS. >> Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem. We >> could manually start the database as a service and it starts just fine. It >> just seemed like the service was ignored by windows on startup. We even >> changed to automatic delayed start and that didn’t matter. We haven’t >> gotten to the bottom of this as of yet. Seems like it was introduced by >> some windows patch that was run in. We are running 4D v16.3. >> >> I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the >> problem so we can too. >> >> Regards, >> David >> ** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >> ** >> > > > > -- > [image: logo] > *James Wright* C.T.O.*, Drag and Drop* > Tel: 08000 43 22 12 | Suite 6/7 Chichester House, 45 Chichester Road, > Southend-on-Sea, Essex SS1 2JU > supp...@draganddrop.co.uk | www.ezadspro.co.uk | www.draganddrop.co.uk > -- [image: logo] *James Wright* C.T.O.*, Drag and Drop* Tel: 08000 43 22 12 | Suite 6/7 Chichester House, 45 Chichester Road, Southend-on-Sea, Essex SS1 2JU supp...@draganddrop.co.uk | www.ezadspro.co.uk | www.draganddrop.co.uk ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Server as a Service
There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's applicable to windows server 2012. Might be worth reading these: https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/iis-web-server-strikes-after-update-kb4338818/ https://blog.techygeekshome.info/2018/07/broken-microsoft-update-kb4338818/ https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4345459/stop-error-0xd1-after-a-race-condition-occurs-in-windows-7-service-pac Updates were from last week. Problems stopping services and the restarting them. There was a patch on Thursday, but we had to install it manually. James. On 20 July 2018 at 17:39, David Conley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Robert, > > We have experienced this on several windows computers as well. In our > case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS. > Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem. We > could manually start the database as a service and it starts just fine. It > just seemed like the service was ignored by windows on startup. We even > changed to automatic delayed start and that didn’t matter. We haven’t > gotten to the bottom of this as of yet. Seems like it was introduced by > some windows patch that was run in. We are running 4D v16.3. > > I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the > problem so we can too. > > Regards, > David > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** > -- [image: logo] *James Wright* C.T.O.*, Drag and Drop* Tel: 08000 43 22 12 | Suite 6/7 Chichester House, 45 Chichester Road, Southend-on-Sea, Essex SS1 2JU supp...@draganddrop.co.uk | www.ezadspro.co.uk | www.draganddrop.co.uk ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Server as a Service
Robert, We have experienced this on several windows computers as well. In our case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS. Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem. We could manually start the database as a service and it starts just fine. It just seemed like the service was ignored by windows on startup. We even changed to automatic delayed start and that didn’t matter. We haven’t gotten to the bottom of this as of yet. Seems like it was introduced by some windows patch that was run in. We are running 4D v16.3. I’m looking at this thread with interest to see if someone has solved the problem so we can too. Regards, David ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D Server as a Service
I can only guess ... We experienced something similar in the past, but always it reveals to be a problem caused by us. An example: Usually our server apps are updated automatically during the night, so the service hat to be restarted by the update script. In nearly all cases it works very well, but it happened that there were an error in the startup code of the new version and we got a problem. Not nice, but ... If we are faced with such problems, I restart the server app as a normal application not as a service, only to look if there are some error messages thrown by the 4D server. Unfortunately all these messages are not logged into a file by 4D, so I have to go the way via application start. Theoretically it could be a problem with the interactive services if you use them. These services are more and more restricted by Microsoft. We don't use them. Finding the real cause of the problem is rather difficult or even not possible. If you restarted the service and all was going well there isn't any chance to get the cause. You can try to have a look at the Windows Eventlog but the messages by 4D are mostly not helpful. Regards Lutz ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
