Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-18 Thread Sujit Shah
I don't want to sound too pessimistic. From what you describe it has a
WYSIWYG preview. I am surprised that no one finds a WYSIWYG editor useful.
I have no intention to use it as a primary means for generating code. Its
just so much more easier to visualize what you are coding without having to
go back and forth. When working on several 100 lines of code, I can jump to
the section I want by just clicking on the section in the visual editor.

For the time being I will keep working with MS Expression Web. I then copy
paste into other editors for validation.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Bernd Fröhlich  wrote:

> John DeSoi wrote:
>
> > Not a WYSIWYG editor, but BBEdit has a nice document syntax checker.
>
> Actually BBEdit is very close to a WYSIWIG editor.
> You can open a "preview"-window that instantly displays the changes that
> are made to the HTML-code.
> Very nice feature.
> (Won´t work with 4D tags though)
>
> Greetings from Germany,
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-18 Thread Bernd Fröhlich
John DeSoi wrote:

> Not a WYSIWYG editor, but BBEdit has a nice document syntax checker.

Actually BBEdit is very close to a WYSIWIG editor.
You can open a "preview"-window that instantly displays the changes that are 
made to the HTML-code.
Very nice feature.
(Won´t work with 4D tags though)

Greetings from Germany,
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-17 Thread John DeSoi
Not a WYSIWYG editor, but BBEdit has a nice document syntax checker.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.


> On Oct 16, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Sujit Shah  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone got suggestions on WYSIWYG editors other than DW and MS Visual
> Web? Something more basic..

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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah
Has anyone got suggestions on WYSIWYG editors other than DW and MS Visual
Web? Something more basic..

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

> I have been using MS Expression Web whilst not the best I can quickly jump
> to the code I need to work on by clicking on the relevant section in the
> "Design" Pane. If I am not sure which table or row I am currently editing I
> can change the border or color to confirm this. Or I can simply type into
> the design editor and see where it lands up in the code. Whilst I prefer
> most of the coding by hand the visual preview and editing helps sometimes.
> There are no Tree Collapse features and it does not have the best of text
> editors. I think it was last updated in 2010 and dont think MS came up with
> a replacement or update.
>
> I tried ATOM with the HTML preview package but still not the same.
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
>>
>>> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues
>>> with
>>> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>>>
>>>
>> At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup
>> in mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am
>> not having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better
>> editor and validator.
>>
>> What HTML doctype do you validate these with?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> xxx
>> "There must be ingenuity as well as intention, strategy as well as
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>>
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>
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah
I have been using MS Expression Web whilst not the best I can quickly jump
to the code I need to work on by clicking on the relevant section in the
"Design" Pane. If I am not sure which table or row I am currently editing I
can change the border or color to confirm this. Or I can simply type into
the design editor and see where it lands up in the code. Whilst I prefer
most of the coding by hand the visual preview and editing helps sometimes.
There are no Tree Collapse features and it does not have the best of text
editors. I think it was last updated in 2010 and dont think MS came up with
a replacement or update.

I tried ATOM with the HTML preview package but still not the same.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
>
>> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues
>> with
>> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>>
>>
> At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup in
> mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am not
> having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better editor
> and validator.
>
> What HTML doctype do you validate these with?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> xxx
> "There must be ingenuity as well as intention, strategy as well as
> strength. "
>
>



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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Lee Hinde  wrote:

> Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues with
> the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.
>
>
At the moment I am dealing with a large number of email templates setup in
mailchimp. The templates are "re-engineered"  to include 4D Tags. I am not
having problems with 4D Tags as such and just looking for a better editor
and validator.

What HTML doctype do you validate these with?





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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Lee Hinde
Like Lutz says, you're going to have a hard time trying to find issues with
the 4D tags because they're seen as comments.

When i've got something mismatched in a large file, I validate the
displayed page, i.e, load the page (as best you can) in the browser, get
the source and validate that. Sometimes the errors in the built page will
get you close.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Sujit Shah  wrote:

> Is there a magic tool that can find a mismatched tag in several hundred
> lines of HTML Code?
>
> One which can work with embedded 4D Tags??
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> --
>
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-16 Thread Sujit Shah
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Timothy Penner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Have you tried ATOM ?
> https://atom.io/
>
>

Many Thanks for the suggestion. Installed both.

What exactly does the Miyako plugin do?




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RE: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-14 Thread Timothy Penner
Hi,


Have you tried ATOM ?
https://atom.io/ 

With the 4D Tags package from Miyako:
https://atom.io/packages/language-4dtag 

4D TAGS language support in Atom
Based on language-html, with added support for 4D tags, dollar syntax, 
French/English controls, :C and :K notation.



-Tim




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From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Sujit Shah
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 2:15 AM
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Subject: Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) < 
lutz.epperl...@agendo.de> wrote:

> We use a full-fledged development environment: WebStorm by Jetbrains.
> There are many inspector services among others for html too.
> Embedded 4D Tags are html comments simply.
>
> Regards
> Lutz
>

I have seen some validators get confused by the 4D Tags thats why I ask.

I want to be able to collapse and expand the tree..
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Re: ​HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-14 Thread steve simpson
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:00 PM,
​
​
Sujit Shah  wrote:
>
>
> Is there a magic tool that can find a mismatched tag in several hundred
> lines of HTML Code?
>
> One which can work with embedded 4D Tags??
>

​https://www.htmlvalidator.com/​


Steve Simpson
​Cimarron Software
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RE: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-14 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo)
> I have seen some validators get confused by the 4D Tags thats why I ask.

I wouldn't call them validators if they get problems with html comments ... ;-)

> I want to be able to collapse and expand the tree..
Yes you can do that too.
But I'm fairly sure every html aware IDE or editor is able to do that.

Regards
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Re: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-14 Thread Sujit Shah
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) <
lutz.epperl...@agendo.de> wrote:

> We use a full-fledged development environment: WebStorm by Jetbrains.
> There are many inspector services among others for html too.
> Embedded 4D Tags are html comments simply.
>
> Regards
> Lutz
>

I have seen some validators get confused by the 4D Tags thats why I ask.

I want to be able to collapse and expand the tree..
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RE: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!

2016-10-14 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo)
We use a full-fledged development environment: WebStorm by Jetbrains. There are 
many inspector services among others for html too.
Embedded 4D Tags are html comments simply.

Regards 
Lutz

> -Original Message-
> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Sujit Shah
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:58 AM
> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Subject: HTML Tag Mismatch Finder!
> 
> Is there a magic tool that can find a mismatched tag in several hundred
> lines of HTML Code?
> 
> One which can work with embedded 4D Tags??
> 
> ;-)
> 
> 
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