Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-18 Thread Lee Hinde 
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Koen Van Hooreweghe  wrote:

> Sorry for jumping in late.
> Maybe there is a default user set in the Structure Settings. Which is not
> the Administrator or Designer.
> Hold the shift key (I think, cannot verify at this moment)  upon opening
> the db will show the user dialog.
>

Koen! That did it. I'm in.

Thanks very much.
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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-18 Thread Lee Hinde 
The point of pointing out the error message was to say it didn't allow me
to trace or edit. (i.e, no structure access.) The error itself was
generated because I pulled out the plugins folder to force an error.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Tim Nevels  wrote:

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Lee Hinde wrote:
>
> > I just updated the license with the 2017 license and I still can't get
> in.
> > It's behaving like a compiled system. I get an error alert without
> > edit/trace option.
>
> Hard to tell what is causing the error without seeing the error message
> dialog box with "Details" expanded.
>
> I always include the following as the first 3 lines of code in On Startup
> and On Server Startup:
>
> If (Caps lock)
>TRACE
> End if
>
> This gives you a definite way to bring up the debugger. That way I can
> determine if any of my code has run and caused the error, or it is a plugin
> or 4D specific error.
>
> Have you tried running MSC on the structure file and repair it? That will
> definitely strip out any compiled code, if there is any.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-18 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe 
Hi Lee,

Sorry for jumping in late.
Maybe there is a default user set in the Structure Settings. Which is not the 
Administrator or Designer.
Hold the shift key (I think, cannot verify at this moment)  upon opening the db 
will show the user dialog.

HTH
Koen

Op 17-jan.-2017, om 21:24 heeft Lee Hinde  het volgende 
geschreven:

> Is there any other reason the debugger would be blocked from coming up? Now
> I'm having the problem with an old v13 database.  I know it's an
> interpreted database (no compiled choice in the open dialog).




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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Tim Nevels 
On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Lee Hinde wrote:

> I just updated the license with the 2017 license and I still can't get in.
> It's behaving like a compiled system. I get an error alert without
> edit/trace option.

Hard to tell what is causing the error without seeing the error message dialog 
box with "Details" expanded. 

I always include the following as the first 3 lines of code in On Startup and 
On Server Startup:

If (Caps lock)
   TRACE
End if 

This gives you a definite way to bring up the debugger. That way I can 
determine if any of my code has run and caused the error, or it is a plugin or 
4D specific error.  

Have you tried running MSC on the structure file and repair it? That will 
definitely strip out any compiled code, if there is any. 

Tim

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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Keisuke Miyako 
another way would be to start the DB without the plugin and force an error.

> 2017/01/18 8:11、Jeremy French  のメール：
> 2) skip database startup method (which calls QUIT 4D after detecting an 
> unlicensed plug-in)



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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Jeremy French 
Hi Doug,

*** IF ***  this is what you want to do:
1) open in interpretive mode
2) skip database startup method (which calls QUIT 4D after detecting an 
unlicensed plug-in)

*** THEN *** then try opening the database with a 4D Link file, in which you 
specify the database is to open in interpretive mode AND the database is to 
skip its database startup method.

Include these attributes and values in the 4D Link file:
 
structure_opening_mode=“1"
skip_onstartup_method=“true"

Then use the 4D Link file to open the database. It’s startup method will be 
skipped, and you will be in interpretive mode.

Best regards,
Jeremy French


> On Jan 10, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Doug Hall  wrote:
> 
> I have an alert box that declares a certain plugin is not properly
> licensed. The very next command is Quit 4D. In a former version of 4D, I
> could hold down ++, and then click the alert button,
> and it would automatically continue in trace mode. How do I do this in v15?
> I last asked to run it in compiled mode. Is t

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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Lee Hinde 
I just updated the license with the 2017 license and I still can't get in.
It's behaving like a compiled system. I get an error alert without
edit/trace option.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Lee Hinde  wrote:

> Rghhht. I remember that, but I am licensed through the month. And I’m
> able to get into other databases.
>
>
> Thanks - this will be helpful for the next person to search this thread.
> :-)
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Spencer Hinsdale 
> wrote:
> >
> > licensing?
> >
> >> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there any other reason the debugger would be blocked from coming up?
> Now
> >> I'm having the problem with an old v13 database.  I know it's an
> >> interpreted database (no compiled choice in the open dialog).
> >>
>
>
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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Spencer Hinsdale 
licensing?

> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Lee Hinde  wrote:
> 
> Is there any other reason the debugger would be blocked from coming up? Now
> I'm having the problem with an old v13 database.  I know it's an
> interpreted database (no compiled choice in the open dialog).
> 

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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-17 Thread Lee Hinde 
Is there any other reason the debugger would be blocked from coming up? Now
I'm having the problem with an old v13 database.  I know it's an
interpreted database (no compiled choice in the open dialog).

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy Penner  wrote:

> > Yes this is the problem.  One way to switch is to start 4d and instead
> of using a shortcut on the splash screen or a choice in recent menu, go
> File, Open, Local Database.  On the Open dialog you can choose
> Compiled/Interpreted and Current/Other/New Data File.
>
> http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76900
>
> -Tim
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RE: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-10 Thread Timothy Penner 
> Yes this is the problem.  One way to switch is to start 4d and instead of 
> using a shortcut on the splash screen or a choice in recent menu, go File, 
> Open, Local Database.  On the Open dialog you can choose Compiled/Interpreted 
> and Current/Other/New Data File.

http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76900

-Tim

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Re: How to halt execution, to avoid Quit 4D

2017-01-10 Thread Lee Hinde 

> On Jan 10, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Doug Hall  wrote:
> 
> I have an alert box that declares a certain plugin is not properly
> licensed. The very next command is Quit 4D. In a former version of 4D, I
> could hold down ++, and then click the alert button,
> and it would automatically continue in trace mode. How do I do this in v15?
> I last asked to run it in compiled mode. Is this the problem? If so, how do
> I get it to open back up in interpreted mode?
> 

On the later, just use File/Open from within 4D and you will have an option to 
open the database in interpreted or compiled mode.


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