Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
Well, this is what it turned out to be. I had fixed a bunch of these places but I missed a small handful. I didn't report the issue either since it was such a simple little fix, but other developers converting to v17 should definitely be aware of this one. Thanks all, Jeff > On Aug 14, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I first ran across this with v16R6, but in conversations with other > developers, not everyone was running into the same issue, so I didn't > report it as a bug (or take the time to isolate and repeat). In my > case, the commands were being called from a component (Foundation > v5.7). ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
I first ran across this with v16R6, but in conversations with other developers, not everyone was running into the same issue, so I didn't report it as a bug (or take the time to isolate and repeat). In my case, the commands were being called from a component (Foundation v5.7). Good luck, dave On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Thanks for the tip - I ran across this too and had already changed all of > those. I'm going to double-check though. > >> On Aug 14, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> >> Yes I have seen this. The first thing I would look at is the command: >> SET MENU ITEM PROPERTY(<>Fnd_Menu_FileMenu_t;-1;Associated standard >> action;ak quit) >> >> The old constants need to be updated to the new ones (eg. ak quit) . I >> found if I "touched" a method with the old constants, they no longer >> worked and failed.. > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- David Nasralla Clean Air Engineering ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
Thanks for the tip - I ran across this too and had already changed all of those. I'm going to double-check though. > On Aug 14, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Yes I have seen this. The first thing I would look at is the command: > SET MENU ITEM PROPERTY(<>Fnd_Menu_FileMenu_t;-1;Associated standard > action;ak quit) > > The old constants need to be updated to the new ones (eg. ak quit) . I > found if I "touched" a method with the old constants, they no longer > worked and failed.. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
Yes I have seen this. The first thing I would look at is the command: SET MENU ITEM PROPERTY(<>Fnd_Menu_FileMenu_t;-1;Associated standard action;ak quit) The old constants need to be updated to the new ones (eg. ak quit) . I found if I "touched" a method with the old constants, they no longer worked and failed.. dave On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:27 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > What we are seeing is a lot more obvious - in the application mode the Copy > menu item just becomes permanently disabled after awhile. > > We haven't found a pattern yet - it could well be something in our own code — > but we haven’t changed our menu handling code in a long time. > >> On Aug 9, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> I just had an instance (v17 Mac) where "command C" and "command V" to copy >> and paste some form objects between two forms had no effect. It worked when >> I used the menus with the mouse. That also seems to have cured the problem. >> This happens on such rare occasions that I've been blaming my keyboard >> (which hasn't had this problem in other apps). >> >> Keith > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- David Nasralla Clean Air Engineering ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
What we are seeing is a lot more obvious - in the application mode the Copy menu item just becomes permanently disabled after awhile. We haven't found a pattern yet - it could well be something in our own code — but we haven’t changed our menu handling code in a long time. > On Aug 9, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I just had an instance (v17 Mac) where "command C" and "command V" to copy > and paste some form objects between two forms had no effect. It worked when > I used the menus with the mouse. That also seems to have cured the problem. > This happens on such rare occasions that I've been blaming my keyboard (which > hasn't had this problem in other apps). > > Keith ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
I just had an instance (v17 Mac) where "command C" and "command V" to copy and paste some form objects between two forms had no effect. It worked when I used the menus with the mouse. That also seems to have cured the problem. This happens on such rare occasions that I've been blaming my keyboard (which hasn't had this problem in other apps). Keith - CDI > On Aug 9, 2018, at 11:58 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Is anyone else experiencing a problem in 4D v17 on Mac where the Copy menu > item in the Edit menu becomes disabled permanently until a restart of 4D? > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
V17 and Edit menu (Copy)
Is anyone else experiencing a problem in 4D v17 on Mac where the Copy menu item in the Edit menu becomes disabled permanently until a restart of 4D? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
