Re: [64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hello, I just would like to share my personal opinion. I think to include a newer version of Gnome in 64Studio can be a good idea. Not only by reading the new features ( http://www.gnome.org/start/2.18/notes/en/ ) you can see what the advantages would be, but also I'm pretty sure there are plenty of bugs fixes that might not be obvious by using it for a short time. Also the Linux audio community around 64Stduio gets a chance to use the latest version and to be at the same point in the development of Gnome where the Gnome devs are, so there is a better possibility to help with bug feedback and feature testing/suggesting. Just my two cents. Cheers! Hector On 8/8/07, Free Ekanayaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, |--== Steve A writes: SA Hi Free, SA I took the plunge, everything installed without a hitch. SA Only limited usage so far (about 2 hours): SA Findings: SA 1/ Visually, no difference SA 2/ Performance, can't detect any noticeable difference (but my system SA is not stressed) SA 3/ Stability, no problems SA Looking at the release notes, I've not yet tried out the new stuff SA (like applets and Tomboy) also, the power saving features don't apply SA to my desktop. Thanks for having tested it. I basically had the same experience on my system, so probably the wisest thing to do is to stick to GNOME 2.14 for the next release as well, as the benefits of 2.18 wrt 2.14 seem very limited. Other reports/opinions? Ciao, Free ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel -- === http://www.hcenteno.net ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
Re: [64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hi Hector, |--== Hector Centeno writes: HC Hello, HC I just would like to share my personal opinion. I think to include a newer HC version of Gnome in 64Studio can be a good idea. Not only by reading the new HC features ( http://www.gnome.org/start/2.18/notes/en/ ) you can see what the HC advantages would be, but also I'm pretty sure there are plenty of bugs HC fixes that might not be obvious by using it for a short time. Also the Linux HC audio community around 64Stduio gets a chance to use the latest version and HC to be at the same point in the development of Gnome where the Gnome devs HC are, so there is a better possibility to help with bug feedback and feature HC testing/suggesting. Thanks for you comments, your points are the same as I thought when I've started the backport. However it now seems to me that the pros of having Gnome 2.18 are not that many, as after all we didn't get a single bug report specific to Gnome 2.14, and apparently the new features are of minor importance for us. So probably keeping gnome 2.14 and retaining full compatibility with debian etch is still a better move. Ciao! Free ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
Re: [64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hi Lincoln, |--== Lincoln Spiteri writes: LS Hi Free, LS Yes seems to work fine here too. Been working all morning with gnome LS upgraded. Only issue is that I lost synaptic due to missing LS dependencies but I managed to re-install using apt-get. Thank you for having tested that. Do you experience any difference with respect the old GNOME 2.14? (better performance, more feature etc.) Ciao! Free LS On 04/08/07, Free Ekanayaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've almost completed the backport of GNOME 2.18 for etch. It seems to work fine on this 64 Studio 2.0 box, but before including it in the testing repository I would like to have some more feedback. To install it from a plain 2.0 (or from bleeding-edge 64studio/testing) just add this repo to your sources: deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports etch main contrib non-free and run: apt-get dist-upgrade Make also sure that you don't have repos other than 64studio (either stable or testing) and etch. Note that apt will probably want to remove the update-manager package, that's fine (I didn't backport it yet). If you get questions about configuration files just answer yes (that means install the new maintainer version) and after the process run: update-dspyco-skel /var/lib/dpkg/info/64studio-themes.postinst configure if you want to restore the 64studio customisations. I would like to know your impressions about this new 2.18 version, in particular if it makes a real difference wrt 2.14 and if it is worth to include it in the forthcoming 3.0, which will most probably based again on Etch (lenny is still far away) and so would otherwise sport GNOME 2.14 again. Personally, even if I would find it a pity to release 64 Studio with GNOME 2.14, now that we are approaching GNOME 2.20, I would nevertheless stick to GNOME 2.14, because the port of 2.18 involve more than one hundred packages and the divergence to etch would be significant. On the other hand some people could possibly find it odd, that 64 Studio runs such an old GNOME and choose more up to date alternatives. Ciao, Free ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
Re: [64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hi Free, I took the plunge, everything installed without a hitch. Only limited usage so far (about 2 hours): Findings: 1/ Visually, no difference 2/ Performance, can't detect any noticeable difference (but my system is not stressed) 3/ Stability, no problems Looking at the release notes, I've not yet tried out the new stuff (like applets and Tomboy) also, the power saving features don't apply to my desktop. Cheers Steve~ _ A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
[64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hi all, I've almost completed the backport of GNOME 2.18 for etch. It seems to work fine on this 64 Studio 2.0 box, but before including it in the testing repository I would like to have some more feedback. To install it from a plain 2.0 (or from bleeding-edge 64studio/testing) just add this repo to your sources: deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports etch main contrib non-free and run: apt-get dist-upgrade Make also sure that you don't have repos other than 64studio (either stable or testing) and etch. Note that apt will probably want to remove the update-manager package, that's fine (I didn't backport it yet). If you get questions about configuration files just answer yes (that means install the new maintainer version) and after the process run: update-dspyco-skel /var/lib/dpkg/info/64studio-themes.postinst configure if you want to restore the 64studio customisations. I would like to know your impressions about this new 2.18 version, in particular if it makes a real difference wrt 2.14 and if it is worth to include it in the forthcoming 3.0, which will most probably based again on Etch (lenny is still far away) and so would otherwise sport GNOME 2.14 again. Personally, even if I would find it a pity to release 64 Studio with GNOME 2.14, now that we are approaching GNOME 2.20, I would nevertheless stick to GNOME 2.14, because the port of 2.18 involve more than one hundred packages and the divergence to etch would be significant. On the other hand some people could possibly find it odd, that 64 Studio runs such an old GNOME and choose more up to date alternatives. Ciao, Free ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
Re: [64studio-devel] Backport of GNOME 2.18
Hi Free, Yes seems to work fine here too. Been working all morning with gnome upgraded. Only issue is that I lost synaptic due to missing dependencies but I managed to re-install using apt-get. Lincoln On 04/08/07, Free Ekanayaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've almost completed the backport of GNOME 2.18 for etch. It seems to work fine on this 64 Studio 2.0 box, but before including it in the testing repository I would like to have some more feedback. To install it from a plain 2.0 (or from bleeding-edge 64studio/testing) just add this repo to your sources: deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports etch main contrib non-free and run: apt-get dist-upgrade Make also sure that you don't have repos other than 64studio (either stable or testing) and etch. Note that apt will probably want to remove the update-manager package, that's fine (I didn't backport it yet). If you get questions about configuration files just answer yes (that means install the new maintainer version) and after the process run: update-dspyco-skel /var/lib/dpkg/info/64studio-themes.postinst configure if you want to restore the 64studio customisations. I would like to know your impressions about this new 2.18 version, in particular if it makes a real difference wrt 2.14 and if it is worth to include it in the forthcoming 3.0, which will most probably based again on Etch (lenny is still far away) and so would otherwise sport GNOME 2.14 again. Personally, even if I would find it a pity to release 64 Studio with GNOME 2.14, now that we are approaching GNOME 2.20, I would nevertheless stick to GNOME 2.14, because the port of 2.18 involve more than one hundred packages and the divergence to etch would be significant. On the other hand some people could possibly find it odd, that 64 Studio runs such an old GNOME and choose more up to date alternatives. Ciao, Free ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel ___ 64studio-devel mailing list 64studio-devel@64studio.com http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-devel
