Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-18 Thread Steve Simon
 we use power switches in testing, in case
 we really wedge machines.

Oh, is this a telnet capable mains switch? Is tehre a UK version,
I have wanted such a thing for ages.

-Steve



Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-18 Thread dave . l
Oh, you can get them in the UK ...APC's stuff is telnet-able and very nice, but how many limbs can you afford?e.g. http://uk.insight.com/p/APCUA03N1K/apc-switched-rack-pdu-power-distribution-strip.html£306.99 ex VAT.HTH,Dave.On 18 Oct, 2010,at 10:05 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: we use power switches in testing, in case
 we really wedge machines.

Oh, is this a telnet capable mains switch? Is tehre a UK version,
I have wanted such a thing for ages.

-Steve



Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
shoot high, aim low. i'm unimpressed by the 24 hour fitness centre
where the locker room is umm how do i say it ... naughty. i need a
tazer for sexual NO! only a few hours 'til it happens again. i don't
care if you want you to display your shaved genitalia but that's not
gonna fix my arm. i know i'm a shit hot speciman of kangaroo meat but
give me a break.

brucee

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
 we use power switches in testing, in case
 we really wedge machines.

 Oh, is this a telnet capable mains switch? Is tehre a UK version,
 I have wanted such a thing for ages.

 -Steve





Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-18 Thread Dave Eckhardt
 Oh, is this a telnet capable mains switch? Is tehre a UK
 version, I have wanted such a thing for ages.  

Bay Technical Associates (baytech.net) has a huge variety of
these, many take 220V, many are available on eBay, maybe the
sets don't intersect but I think they do.

You need to be a bit careful since a lot of what's on eBay
is telnet-only (i.e., you probably don't want to deploy it
on the Internet).  Some of the older SSH-capable units have
slow enough CPU's that you don't want to use an RSA key of
more than 768 bits (and even that's noticeably slower than
512); if you use real SSL certs your CA may refuse to sign
a key that small these days.

Dave Eckhardt



Re: [9fans] permissions

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
if you want to crash everything in sight try a 4096 bit key. all i
wanted was a pepsi ...

brucee

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Dave Eckhardt davide...@cs.cmu.edu wrote:
 Oh, is this a telnet capable mains switch? Is tehre a UK
 version, I have wanted such a thing for ages.

 Bay Technical Associates (baytech.net) has a huge variety of
 these, many take 220V, many are available on eBay, maybe the
 sets don't intersect but I think they do.

 You need to be a bit careful since a lot of what's on eBay
 is telnet-only (i.e., you probably don't want to deploy it
 on the Internet).  Some of the older SSH-capable units have
 slow enough CPU's that you don't want to use an RSA key of
 more than 768 bits (and even that's noticeably slower than
 512); if you use real SSL certs your CA may refuse to sign
 a key that small these days.

 Dave Eckhardt





Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread roger peppe
yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
livestream is very glitchy from here too.
(although it was fun when it did work live...)

On 18 October 2010 01:40, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference site?  
 I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the default ad 15s 
 into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas






[9fans] styx books

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
i don't BS.

brucee
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[9fans] and ...

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
this is far too large to post to a mailing list. chunder to the rescue 

http://chunder.com/stuff/menu.png

and i have a hotel elf looking for a bigger scanner.

brucee



Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
if you had turned up i could have answered your questions again. but
you would have talked over me and made me leave the room. at least you
can review the video and talk over it.

brucee

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)

 On 18 October 2010 01:40, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference site? 
  I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the default ad 
 15s into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas








Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread roger peppe
you're a lovely man

On 18 October 2010 13:12, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you had turned up i could have answered your questions again. but
 you would have talked over me and made me leave the room. at least you
 can review the video and talk over it.

 brucee

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)

 On 18 October 2010 01:40, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference 
 site?  I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the 
 default ad 15s into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas










Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
thank you.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 you're a lovely man

 On 18 October 2010 13:12, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you had turned up i could have answered your questions again. but
 you would have talked over me and made me leave the room. at least you
 can review the video and talk over it.

 brucee

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)

 On 18 October 2010 01:40, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference 
 site?  I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the 
 default ad 15s into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas












Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

-eric



Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
all praise to ericvh for his all the bits that fit approach. one of
the casella dudes has a nice video editing studio - so raw as you like
- we fix.

brucee

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


 youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
 match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
 Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
 to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
 to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
 this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
 this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
 downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
 with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

        -eric





Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread cinap_lenrek
can they do hungarian subtitles?

--
cinap
---BeginMessage---
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

-eric
---End Message---


Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
my hovercraft is full of eels!

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:41 AM,  cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
 can they do hungarian subtitles?

 --
 cinap


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:12:01 -0500
 Subject: Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


 youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
 match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
 Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
 to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
 to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
 this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
 this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
 downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
 with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

        -eric





Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
oh man, that is awesome.  We should do a spinal tap-like commentary
track for the whole of IWP9...with hungarian and swedish subtitles --
perhaps a shaney sub-title track?  That'd be a fun weekend project.
What was I saying about not having any time?

   -eric


On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 my hovercraft is full of eels!

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:41 AM,  cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
 can they do hungarian subtitles?

 --
 cinap


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:12:01 -0500
 Subject: Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


 youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
 match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
 Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
 to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
 to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
 this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
 this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
 downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
 with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

        -eric







Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 18 11:32:20 EDT 2010, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
 oh man, that is awesome.  We should do a spinal tap-like commentary
 track for the whole of IWP9...with hungarian and swedish subtitles --
 perhaps a shaney sub-title track?  That'd be a fun weekend project.
 What was I saying about not having any time?

i've got a super protocol that will fix all your time
problems.  i think i left the description at home.

- erik



Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
you did escort me to the swedish hospital ... there is so much scope.

even tho ron's talk was perhaps the sardonically wittiest technical
talk i've ever had the pleasure of attending ... it would be hilarious
dubbed by aussie surfers - dude.

brucee

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote:
 oh man, that is awesome.  We should do a spinal tap-like commentary
 track for the whole of IWP9...with hungarian and swedish subtitles --
 perhaps a shaney sub-title track?  That'd be a fun weekend project.
 What was I saying about not having any time?

       -eric


 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 my hovercraft is full of eels!

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:41 AM,  cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
 can they do hungarian subtitles?

 --
 cinap


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com
 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:12:01 -0500
 Subject: Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?
 On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 yeah, youtube (or better, vimeo) would be great.
 livestream is very glitchy from here too.
 (although it was fun when it did work live...)


 youtube would be a pain as the videos have to be sliced and diced to
 match 10 minutes.  Not sure if vimeo has similar restrictions.
 Honestly I won't have much time for editing.  I'm gonna rip the tapes
 to some compressed format and post them.  If folks want to edit, post
 to other sites, etc. -- more power to them.  I'll do my best to rip
 this week, its off of tape, so that's 7 hours and I've got more travel
 this week, but I'll post whatever I rip.  In the interim, you can try
 downloading the stream from livestream -- there should be in an option
 with the Video-on-Demand stuff.

        -eric









Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread EBo
We could also run trascripts through Jive or Valley (an old parser 
which converts standard english to Jive and Valley Girl speach -- so 
Gage me with a spoon and slap my fro!).  An old girfriend of mine 
ran the abstract of her dissertation through Jive and handed it in to 
her advisor...  He said he would not change a thing ;-)


  EBo --


you did escort me to the swedish hospital ... there is so much scope.

even tho ron's talk was perhaps the sardonically wittiest technical
talk i've ever had the pleasure of attending ... it would be 
hilarious

dubbed by aussie surfers - dude.


oh man, that is awesome.  We should do a spinal tap-like commentary
track for the whole of IWP9...with hungarian and swedish subtitles 
--

perhaps a shaney sub-title track?  That'd be a fun weekend project.
What was I saying about not having any time?




Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Noah Evans
FWIW chrome seems to have major issues with livestream but safari
behaves a bit better.

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference site?  
 I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the default ad 15s 
 into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas






Re: [9fans] iwp9 video?

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Ellis
i have software that introduces spoonerisms and malapropisms and the
complete BBC sound effects library if we wanna get really silly.

brucee

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
 FWIW chrome seems to have major issues with livestream but safari
 behaves a bit better.

 On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:

 Check http://www.livestream.com/iwp9 during the workshop.  I'll post
 an update to the list with whether or not I've got it working as well.

 Any chance the videos can be pushed to youtube or some other reference site? 
  I've not been able to watch anything from livestream past the default ad 
 15s into the presentation.

 Granted I was there, but I still want additional fuel for the fire when I 
 start pestering Gorka or John via email.

 -jas








[9fans] typo in il paper?

2010-10-18 Thread erik quanstrom
p. 4.  first sentence of the last paragraph
in the Transmission/Retransmission
paragraph.  should that be

Retransmission also occurs in the states syncr, syncee and
close[ing].

rather than close?

- erik