Re: [9fans] I need some EDID

2012-10-23 Thread Jean-Pierre Messager

Le 22/10/2012 21:22, ron minnich a écrit :

so, if any of you have X11 running, and could do this:
xrandr --verbose

and send the output to me, subject
EDID

I would NOT be forever in your debt, and I will NOT put your name in
lights, but I would appreciate it :-)

ron



GNU/Linux - Xorg - Monitor: Dell ST2410b

$ xrandr --verbose
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (0x42) normal (normal left inverted right x 
axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm

Identifier: 0x41
Timestamp:  16823
Subpixel:   unknown
Gamma:  1.0:1.0:1.0
Brightness: 1.0
Clones:
CRTC:   0
CRTCs:  0 1
Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 1.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 1.00
   filter:
EDID:
000010ac5ba055524630
141401030e351e7891a3544c9926
0f5054a54b00714f8180d1c001010101
010101010101023a801871382d40582c
4500132b211e00ff00573138
3952303544304652550a00fc0044
454c4c205354323431300a2000fd
00324c1e5311000a20202020202000d9
  1920x1080 (0x42)  148.5MHz +HSync +VSync *current +preferred
h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew0 clock   
67.5KHz

v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock   60.0Hz
  1280x1024 (0x43)  135.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width  1280 start 1296 end 1440 total 1688 skew0 clock   
80.0KHz

v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066 clock   75.0Hz
  1280x1024 (0x44)  108.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width  1280 start 1328 end 1440 total 1688 skew0 clock   
64.0KHz

v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066 clock   60.0Hz
  1152x864 (0x45)  108.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width  1152 start 1216 end 1344 total 1600 skew0 clock   
67.5KHz

v: height  864 start  865 end  868 total  900 clock   75.0Hz
  1024x768 (0x46)   78.8MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width  1024 start 1040 end 1136 total 1312 skew0 clock   
60.1KHz

v: height  768 start  769 end  772 total  800 clock   75.1Hz
  1024x768 (0x47)   65.0MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width  1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew0 clock   
48.4KHz

v: height  768 start  771 end  777 total  806 clock   60.0Hz
  800x600 (0x48)   49.5MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width   800 start  816 end  896 total 1056 skew0 clock   
46.9KHz

v: height  600 start  601 end  604 total  625 clock   75.0Hz
  800x600 (0x49)   40.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width   800 start  840 end  968 total 1056 skew0 clock   
37.9KHz

v: height  600 start  601 end  605 total  628 clock   60.3Hz
  640x480 (0x4a)   31.5MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width   640 start  656 end  720 total  840 skew0 clock   
37.5KHz

v: height  480 start  481 end  484 total  500 clock   75.0Hz
  640x480 (0x4b)   25.2MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width   640 start  656 end  752 total  800 skew0 clock   
31.5KHz

v: height  480 start  490 end  492 total  525 clock   60.0Hz
  720x400 (0x4c)   28.3MHz -HSync +VSync
h: width   720 start  738 end  846 total  900 skew0 clock   
31.5KHz

v: height  400 start  412 end  414 total  449 clock   70.1Hz





[9fans] hotels in dublin

2012-10-23 Thread jonas . amoson
Not het. Seems like there are two hotel choices; down-town, an
nearer the Labs. Both nice looking. I think I'd choose the more
popular one. So which one are you all considering the most?



[9fans] Call for Participation 7th International Workshop on Plan 9 - and Call for MORE Papers :)

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Jul

 Dear 9fans.

 There are now travel, hotel and registration information on iwp9.org :-)

 We DO need papers, demos, WIP and posters - so we have extended the deadlines.

 Please write me asap, if you have a contribution :)

 Sincerely,

 Eric




[9fans] Hotels.

2012-10-23 Thread Eric Jul
Concerning hotels for iwp9:

I recommend the Maldron because it is close (easy walking distance)  to the 
restaurants
and pubs (the music pub is across the street).

Choose the Crown Plaza only if you are not interested in the evening social 
programs, or
if you want a high class hotel and don't mind a 10 km taxi trip at the end of 
the evening.

Sincerely,

Eric
iwp9.org for more info.



Re: [9fans] I need some EDID

2012-10-23 Thread David Leimbach
Big Damn HP monitor (ZR30w)

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 1600, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x41
Timestamp:  19460
Subpixel:   unknown
Clones:
CRTCs:  0 1
Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 1.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 1.00
   filter:
HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Identifier: 0x42
Timestamp:  19460
Subpixel:   unknown
Clones:
CRTCs:  0 1
Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 1.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 1.00
   filter:
force_audio: 0 (0x) range:  (-1,1)
DP1 connected 2560x1600+0+0 (0x44) normal (normal left inverted right x
axis y axis) 641mm x 400mm
Identifier: 0x43
Timestamp:  19460
Subpixel:   unknown
Gamma:  1.0:1.0:1.0
Brightness: 1.0
Clones:
CRTC:   0
CRTCs:  0 1
Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 1.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 1.00
   filter:
EDID:
000022f06c2801010101
02160104b5402878e28d85ad4f35b125
0e50540001010101010101010101
010101010101e26800a0a0402e603020
36008190211abc1b00a050201730
302036008190211a00fc0048
50205a523330770a2020202000ff
00434e34323032313338460a2020007b
force_audio: 0 (0x) range:  (-1,1)
  2560x1600 (0x44)  268.5MHz +HSync -VSync *current +preferred
h: width  2560 start 2608 end 2640 total 2720 skew0 clock
98.7KHz
v: height 1600 start 1603 end 1609 total 1646   clock
60.0Hz
  1280x800 (0x45)   71.0MHz +HSync -VSync
h: width  1280 start 1328 end 1360 total 1440 skew0 clock
49.3KHz
v: height  800 start  803 end  809 total  823   clock
59.9Hz


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
That name has referred to at least two, possibly three,
distinct and unrelated projects. I don't believe any of
them are still ongoing. I also don't think any of them
were aimed at becoming what i'd call a production
resource. What is it you're looking for?




Re: [9fans] 16:9 display and freeze

2012-10-23 Thread tlaronde
For the record, I haven't been able to reproduce it now. (I have opened
the box to verify connections and so on; and to be exhaustive, the
only modification was to simply move a IDE loose end cable further 
from the motherboard---I always wonder, with the increase of speed, what
the electromagnetic noise impact is, and how shielded are MB components
from such perturbations...).

-- 
Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com
  http://www.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C



Re: [9fans] drawterm for OSX 10.8

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Sickel
Another set of changes have been pushed to 
https://bitbucket.org/jas/drawterm-cocoa that support resize/reshape of the OS 
X window.  There are still a few drawing glitches once a window is resized, but 
those should be fixed in short order.

The drawterm-cocoa fork has a branch named 'p9' that I've used for these 
changes.  Use that branch until everything is merged back to default.  All 
comments  criticisms are welcome through any communication vector available.

This work has been sponsored and © coraid 2012 under the plan 9 open source 
license.

-jas




Re: [9fans] I need some EDID

2012-10-23 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:54 AM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote:
 Everybody, PLEASE, restrain yourselves and send the EDID output to Ron
 directly, not to 9fans.

Yes, good point. Also please send with subject
EDID

and you can send the text inline, not as an attachment, thanks

ron



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
I only really considered one project to be substantial. That may be unfair.
It was the one that LANL/UCal were involved in.

I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks.

Best,
D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote:

 That name has referred to at least two, possibly three,
 distinct and unrelated projects. I don't believe any of
 them are still ongoing. I also don't think any of them
 were aimed at becoming what i'd call a production
 resource. What is it you're looking for?





-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

 I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks.

Real code? talk to charles.

Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.

ron



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight
thread execution? Which packages would you point me at?

Thanks,
D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
 d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

  I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks.

 Real code? talk to charles.

 Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.

 ron




-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Matthew Veety

On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:

Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight
thread execution? Which packages would you point me at?

Thanks,
D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com
mailto:rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
d...@capitolhillconsultants.com
mailto:d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

  I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating
tasks.

Real code? talk to charles.

Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.

ron




--
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557




I would avoid using Go on Plan 9 right now for anything production 
because it has issues when using many concurrent tcp connections. If you 
do want to use Go, stick with reading and writing files, and let 9P do 
it's thing.


--
Veety




Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9
specific issue?

D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:

 Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight
 thread execution? Which packages would you point me at?

 Thanks,
 D

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com
 mailto:rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
 donb@capitolhillconsultants.**com d...@capitolhillconsultants.com
 
 mailto:donb@**capitolhillconsultants.comd...@capitolhillconsultants.com
 wrote:

   I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating
 tasks.

 Real code? talk to charles.

 Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.

 ron




 --
 Don A. Bailey
 CEO/Founding Partner
 Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
 1-303-947-6557



 I would avoid using Go on Plan 9 right now for anything production because
 it has issues when using many concurrent tcp connections. If you do want to
 use Go, stick with reading and writing files, and let 9P do it's thing.

 --
 Veety





-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Matthew Veety

On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:

Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9
specific issue?

D


I haven't had any problems with Go on other platforms (FreeBSD and Mac 
OS X) except for CPU use sometimes and scheduling of goroutines. Both 
you can kinda work around.


--
Veety





Re: [9fans] drawterm for OSX 10.8

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Sickel
I use 9vx regularly and will be looking at a Cocoa update to support 10.8 in my 
spare time.  If another levitator order comes through, Inferno on 10.8 will be 
a prerequisite.

-jas

On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Nemo n...@lsub.org wrote:

 that's great, thanks!
 
 btw, anyone using 9vx or inferno there? (10.8)




Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;)

D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:44:42PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote:
  Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9
  specific issue?
 
  D

 Dear Don A. D Bailey, CEO/Cofounder:

 You should probably harass the Go people about this.

 Thank you,
 Kurt H Maier
 Grand Poobah/Arch-inquisitor At Large
 Totally a Business, Inc
 1-212-479-7990




-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:

 Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight
 thread execution? Which packages would you point me at?

 Thanks,
 D

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com
 mailto:rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
 d...@capitolhillconsultants.com
 mailto:d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

   I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating
 tasks.

 Real code? talk to charles.

 Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.

 ron




 --
 Don A. Bailey
 CEO/Founding Partner
 Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
 1-303-947-6557



 I would avoid using Go on Plan 9 right now for anything production because
 it has issues when using many concurrent tcp connections. If you do want to
 use Go, stick with reading and writing files, and let 9P do it's thing.

 --
 Veety



Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark
against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get
failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the #
of concurrent connections IIRC.

I'd post the code for the server I wrote, but it was written as part
of work so I can't. Still, it's not hard to put together a server
which responds only to a GET.

john



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Cool, thanks. I appreciate the response.

D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:

 Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9
 specific issue?

 D


 I haven't had any problems with Go on other platforms (FreeBSD and Mac OS
 X) except for CPU use sometimes and scheduling of goroutines. Both you can
 kinda work around.

 --
 Veety






-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Thankfully, we are very well versed at tuning the Plan 9 kernel. I'll take
your advice and develop the benchmark.

Is your code concealed per work on NxM? Just curious as NxM seems to solve
(in what little I know about it) some of the issues we are trying to solve
with Go+Plan 9.

D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:15 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote:
 
  Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight
  thread execution? Which packages would you point me at?
 
  Thanks,
  D
 
  On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com
  mailto:rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey
  d...@capitolhillconsultants.com
  mailto:d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:
 
I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating
  tasks.
 
  Real code? talk to charles.
 
  Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages.
 
  ron
 
 
 
 
  --
  Don A. Bailey
  CEO/Founding Partner
  Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
  1-303-947-6557
 
 
 
  I would avoid using Go on Plan 9 right now for anything production
 because
  it has issues when using many concurrent tcp connections. If you do want
 to
  use Go, stick with reading and writing files, and let 9P do it's thing.
 
  --
  Veety
 
 

 Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark
 against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get
 failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the #
 of concurrent connections IIRC.

 I'd post the code for the server I wrote, but it was written as part
 of work so I can't. Still, it's not hard to put together a server
 which responds only to a GET.

 john




-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote:
 If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;)
 
 D


Thanks for letting us know, D.

The Right Reverend Kurt H. Maier, Esq.
Daughter of the Fifth House of Betazed
Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx
Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed
Ferenginar Acquisitions, LLC
1-631-960-7187



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the
twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will
always persist.

3
D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote:
  If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;)
 
  D


 Thanks for letting us know, D.

 The Right Reverend Kurt H. Maier, Esq.
 Daughter of the Fifth House of Betazed
 Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx
 Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed
 Ferenginar Acquisitions, LLC
 1-631-960-7187




-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
 Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark
 against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get
 failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the #
 of concurrent connections IIRC.
 
 I'd post the code for the server I wrote, but it was written as part
 of work so I can't. Still, it's not hard to put together a server
 which responds only to a GET.

the limit is 1024 for a terminal, and 4096 for a cpu server.
if you get a failure at a lower number, then it's not because
of concurrent connections, but something else.

i know the original nix tcp code had trouble with zero-window
probes.  i'm not sure if the same was ever true of the distribution.

- erik



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

 Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the
 twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will
 always persist.

biologists call it an ecological niche.

- erik



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think
he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the Grateful Dead. Well,
maybe not. But close, I'm sure.

D

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:

 On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

  Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the
  twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls
 will
  always persist.

 biologists call it an ecological niche.

 - erik




-- 
Don A. Bailey
CEO/Founding Partner
Capitol Hill Consultants LLC
1-303-947-6557


Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:29:19PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote:
 Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the
 twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will
 always persist.

Unlike your desire to look at code?  Why have you suddenly begun asking
questions that can easily be answered by opening source files?  Are you
under coercion?  Are you sending us a signal?





blink twice for yes, they can't record everything



Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Bakul Shah
If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;)   

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:42:48 PDT Don A. Bailey 
d...@capitolhillconsultants.com  wrote:
 If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think
 he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the Grateful Dead. Well,
 maybe not. But close, I'm sure.
 
 D
 
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
 
  On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:
 
   Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the
   twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls
  will
   always persist.
 
  biologists call it an ecological niche.

Egological.