[9fans] USB wifi

2013-12-12 Thread Steve Simon
There is no usb wifi suppotrt in plan9 (unless you know different).

Surfing around I found a candidate for a reasonable well documented
device if anyone has the time and enthusism.

The RT2571w - a PDF of a datasheet giving register level programming is
on the net, and there is a bare metal embedded driver which might
be a fair option for example code (better than the Linux driver i suspect).

https://github.com/sbourdeauducq/rt2571w

At least there is this much info.

-Steve



[9fans] P9P font server

2013-12-12 Thread lucio
I didn't pay any attention to p9p's fontsrv (sorry, Andrey!  It was
you that got that off the ground, wasn't it?) until this morning's
discussion, but it struck me as a very neat solution for a problem
that has been bugging me for a long time: avoiding the time consuming
repeated installation of Plan 9 fonts.  Specifically, p9p itself and
local instances of 9vx could be smaller and the installation (and
download, in most cases) would be quicker.

The question then becomes whether fontsrv could be "ported" to Plan 9
together with the supporting facilities (openfont(2) is my guess)?  I
certainly would be willing to give such port a try, if I can be
convinced that it is not beyond my ability.

++L






Re: [9fans] USB wifi

2013-12-12 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Dec 12 06:44:46 EST 2013, st...@quintile.net wrote:
> There is no usb wifi suppotrt in plan9 (unless you know different).
> 
> Surfing around I found a candidate for a reasonable well documented
> device if anyone has the time and enthusism.
> 
> The RT2571w - a PDF of a datasheet giving register level programming is
> on the net, and there is a bare metal embedded driver which might
> be a fair option for example code (better than the Linux driver i suspect).

good luck!  definately a needed bit.  as you probablly know, sometimes neither
are as helpful as one would expect.

- erik



Re: [9fans] P9P font server

2013-12-12 Thread erik quanstrom
> that has been bugging me for a long time: avoiding the time consuming
> repeated installation of Plan 9 fonts.  Specifically, p9p itself and
> local instances of 9vx could be smaller and the installation (and
> download, in most cases) would be quicker.
> 
> The question then becomes whether fontsrv could be "ported" to Plan 9
> together with the supporting facilities (openfont(2) is my guess)?  I
> certainly would be willing to give such port a try, if I can be
> convinced that it is not beyond my ability.

this won't necessarly save disk space:
; du */cyberbit*
12283   bit/cyberbit
13041   ttf/cyberbit.ttf

personally, i like the simplicity of plan 9's approach.  a bigger issue
for me is plan 9's fixed string height: “” looks bad.

- erik



Re: [9fans] P9P font server

2013-12-12 Thread lucio
> personally, i like the simplicity of plan 9's approach.  a bigger issue
> for me is plan 9's fixed string height: “” looks bad.

I'm at the receiving end of what is not as slow an Internet connection
as I have suffered from in the past, but it's expensive.  And the
hardware I have access to is also not very fast.  Storage is a minor
issue here, although it can't be totally ignored.  Installing Plan 9,
Inferno (yes, that one too contributes a set of fonts) and p9p just
takes too long and after a few times one gets impatient.

The string height, is that a font or a rendering problem?  I mean, do
the Plan 9 fonts suffer from it, or is it the graphics system that
can't deal with ascenders adequately?  Looking at your example, I'd
say the former.

++L

PS: Your answer, then, is" "don't bother", I presume.  Are there more
opinions?  Different ones?






Re: [9fans] P9P font server

2013-12-12 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I didn't do fontsrv. The closest I came to was a 9p snarf buffer that
could be used to copy/paste between the host mac and a P9 VM running
in Parallels or some other virt env :)

http://mirtchovski.com/p9/osxsnarf/

no opinion on fontsrv for p9, but i'm using it daily in its p9p form :)



Re: [9fans] P9P font server

2013-12-12 Thread lucio
> no opinion on fontsrv for p9, but i'm using it daily in its p9p form :)

Says a lot.  I'm sorry ot have attributed fontsrv incorrectly, whoever
did it (rsc?) deserves better :-)

It's unfortunate that attribution seems to have never been important
in Plan 9.

++L






[9fans] guruplug display?

2013-12-12 Thread Steve Simon
Dues plan9 support the guruplug display,
i.e. can I use one as a terminal.

My Raspberry pi is a revelation, but it would be nice
to have a bit more grunt and Gb ether.

-Steve



Re: [9fans] USB wifi

2013-12-12 Thread Tristan
> There is no usb wifi suppotrt in plan9 (unless you know different).

i'm fairly sure i have a working-but-not-finished driver for the marvell
liberatas (olpc, and a few external devices, only 802.11g) in my contrib.
no encryption or anything fancy but enough to load plan9 over it.

tristan

-- 
All original matter is hereby placed immediately under the public domain.



Re: [9fans] USB wifi

2013-12-12 Thread Salman Javaid
I would absolutely love to do this. Can you help me through it?

P.S.: I am a complete noob.



Best Regards,
Salman Javaid


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Steve Simon  wrote:

> There is no usb wifi suppotrt in plan9 (unless you know different).
>
> Surfing around I found a candidate for a reasonable well documented
> device if anyone has the time and enthusism.
>
> The RT2571w - a PDF of a datasheet giving register level programming is
> on the net, and there is a bare metal embedded driver which might
> be a fair option for example code (better than the Linux driver i suspect).
>
> https://github.com/sbourdeauducq/rt2571w
>
> At least there is this much info.
>
> -Steve
>
>


Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Raschke
Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.

If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
default.

No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
you a start.

Robby
 On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride"  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>
> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>
> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
> string" current functionality.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake McBride
>
>


Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-12 Thread Rubén Berenguel
A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with
spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This
works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate
solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I
don't remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
follows the same rules as opening a file.

Ruben


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke wrote:

> Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
> filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
>
> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
> default.
>
> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
> you a start.
>
> Robby
>  On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride"  wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>>
>> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>>
>> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
>> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
>> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
>> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
>> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
>> string" current functionality.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Blake McBride
>>
>>


Re: [9fans] USB wifi

2013-12-12 Thread cinap_lenrek
9front includes softmac wifi layer supporting wpa and wpa2 with
factotum. (we support intel wifilink based cards and ralink 2866)

steal it if you can :-)

--
cinap



Re: [9fans] guruplug display?

2013-12-12 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
The last time I checked the display wasn't supported. The Guruplug Display
I have gave up the ghost running Linux some two years ago; probably power
supply.

I just saw that Steve Stallion is working on a Chromebook port. RPi isn't
bad, but a chromebook would be great.

-Skip
On Dec 12, 2013 8:02 AM, "Steve Simon"  wrote:

> Dues plan9 support the guruplug display,
> i.e. can I use one as a terminal.
>
> My Raspberry pi is a revelation, but it would be nice
> to have a bit more grunt and Gb ether.
>
> -Steve
>
>


Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

2013-12-12 Thread Blake McBride
When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If you want to
execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole thing and
then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.

When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme loads the file
with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file name with spaces and
then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would be totally
consistent.

It there a reason this hasn't been done?

Thanks.

Blake



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel wrote:

> A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with
> spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This
> works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate
> solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I
> don't remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
> follows the same rules as opening a file.
>
> Ruben
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke 
> wrote:
>
>> Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
>> filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
>> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
>> default.
>>
>> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
>> you a start.
>>
>> Robby
>>  On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride"  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>>>
>>> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>>>
>>> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
>>> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
>>> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>>> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
>>> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
>>> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>>> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
>>> string" current functionality.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Blake McBride
>>>
>>>
>