Re: [9fans] Hi from a new fan
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Scott Elcomb pse...@gmail.com wrote: Just like to take a quick moment to say hello to the list and introduce myself. Hi there! =D For roughly the last 6 years or so, I've been picking away at Atomic OS - a metaphorical OS / abstraction layer for web application developers. (That's my goal anyway.) Atomic OS is a live OS-like environment and SPA library/template for web app development. At it's core, Atomic OS aims to provide to web developers features that desktop dev's take for granted: basic operating system features like a command interpreter and filesystem. Check out ... http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html http://wiki.tcl.tk/ http://www.colorforth.com/POL.htm http://docs.factorcode.org Cheers, Leonard
Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p
And look at it this way: delegation helps the economy by employing people and selling processors and memory :-) http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2011/7/109885-the-case-for-ramcloud/fulltext
[9fans] tcl, 9p
Anyone know the state of the art of writing 9p clients/servers in tcl? - Leonard
Re: [9fans] tcl, 9p
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: I believe the state of the art is not to use tcl. :-) I'm having fun writing 9p clients in Go. Russ Sure, tcl isn't as popular as Go right now. Still, tcl is appealing in some ways. http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html Was wondering if Go could be summarized as Plan 9 in language-space. (Ready... aim... fire) It seems like Plan 9 already got it right in the systems realm. (Arguments against Ousterhout's dichotomy, fire away) Seems like Plan 9 and tcl/tk would complement each other well. Also, this is somewhat unrelated, but I was wondering whether each Go executable contains the garbage collector. (It must, it seems, but just checking). - Leonard
Re: [9fans] plan9port compilation
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:00 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.comwrote: You did not install the libX11-devel package on your distribution. -- David du Colombier Ok thanks.
Re: [9fans] Nemo book
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fmwrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:41:29 -0400 L N leonardne...@gmail.com wrote: The goal should be a Plan 9 distro that runs natively on AMD-64, and can open a web-browser. That goal is a target moving at approximately the speed of light. Specifically, the open a web browser part of it is. A virtualizer running on Plan 9 would waste far less time than implementing enough Linux syscalls to run a Linux distro new enough to run any browser newer than Opera 9. Is running Opera on Plan 9 an option? Also, I don't know how to get abaco running. Downloaded the tarball ... http://rain.ifmo.ru/~olegfink/abaco-p9p.tgz Unpacked it, ran mk. Ran ./abaco.sh. Got this far ... ./abaco.sh ./abaco.sh: 7: webfs: not found ./abaco.sh: 10: abaco.bin: not found Apologies for being helpless. - Leonard
Re: [9fans] Nemo book
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:55 PM, s s leonardne...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Or use xpdf -rv Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose. How come no one likes high-contrast-inverse themes? Because we like our eyeballs. I think you're going to be pretty disappointed with the Plan 9 UIs, if you get around to booting it. John Right now running Ubuntu, with openbox. GTK theme is Wii-black. Tried using wmii, but for some reason sound stopped working, so still using openbox. Downloaded p9p and go9p. Afraid to commit to booting native Plan-9 until I'm sure I can get openbox, firefox, and chromium-browser working on it. - Leonard
Re: [9fans] Nemo book
ah, now I see :-) http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3117-1335_Skeleton_Behind_a_Business_Desk_clipart_image.jpg ron Maybe. The web-browser really is a deal-breaker, though. I really enjoyed reading about Plan 9, first at plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/, and later at cat-v.org. As much as I like the design of Plan 9, I also like surfing the web. It would be nice to boot Plan 9 natively on AMD-64, type startx, and open a browser. Unfortunately, I'm not at a level where I can really contribute to getting Plan 9 to that point. I think the focus of the Plan 9 community should be just that. The goal should be a Plan 9 distro that runs natively on AMD-64, and can open a web-browser. With the announcement of NIX, maybe we are already at that point? http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/good_bad_ugly/slides/28 - Leonard
Re: [9fans] Nemo book
I think you have seriously misapprehended many things about Plan 9. What am I misapprehending? We don't have X. We are not Linux compatible, although there's a rather decent Linux emulator. There is no GTK, no Qt, no Firefox, no modern C++ compiler. I don't need X, Linux compatibility, GTK, Qt, Firefox, or C++. I need an OS that runs a browser. I was using startx in the figurative sense. I think it's time for people to stop telling the Plan 9 community what its goals should be, Are my-two-cents worth a negative amount? when these people haven't even booted Plan 9. Why should I boot Plan 9, when I know I can't run a browser, and I already have p9p? John - Leonard
Re: [9fans] Nemo book
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:33 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Although for my money abaco is still really neat ... ron I wonder if I can get abaco to display pages with a high-contrast-inverse theme. :] - Leonard
