Re: [9fans] drawterm on BlissOS-15.8.4
Oh! Yes, BlissOS-15.8.5 appeared, which updated offten. Ok, I tested it's distribution named as 2023-03-09. Yes, it does work as 15.8.4. I'mnow writing this email on it. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T703208081b75c887-M4df6d3d4f156213f9790981e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] drawterm on BlissOS-15.8.4
This "set orientation as landscape mode" utility was not there before the version of 15.8.4, I believe Why we can now use drawterm successfully on BlissOS 15.8.4? Because it was changed(upgraded), I think Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T703208081b75c887-M023670f3ccec137944f2e94f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] drawterm on BlissOS-15.8.4
Using PC's android is better than doing it on smart phone android, because we get wider screen, which is very very important for Plan9! Thank you very much! The remaining problem is only one, the vertical position expanding. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T703208081b75c887-M09c2a5ef0812d09b03600786 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- The android terminal is Intel NUC7i5BNH... I forgot to write. Kenji On 2023/03/16 17:29, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: I was wrong! Yes, this android can use landscape mode! Now, I'm doing it, and very happy It was set orientation command to landscape mode Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T703208081b75c887-M218b9ecb71728f3fc248c64d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
[9fans] drawterm on BlissOS-15.8.4
I was wrong! Yes, this android can use landscape mode! Now, I'm doing it, and very happy It was set orientation command to landscape mode Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T703208081b75c887-Me1c1d1e9101cc395c82abec9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] drawterm works on BlissOS15.8.4
subject says all however, it draws portlate mode unfortunately This mail is written under it. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tee50ce4de211241e-M7fa317ace9782f0cde60ecbc Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
> Oh, I forgot to write that this mail was written on the drawterm of > PrimeOS-2.1.3. This is the most stable and easy to use android on x86_64 device among those Android 11 variant of my use. The problem is portrait only image of the drawterm. If you'd have a time to restructure it, I'd be happier you could check it. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M574cd3ef9043f697d8da09e1 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
Oh, I forgot to write that this mail was written on the drawterm of PrimeOS-2.1.3. Kenji > PrimeOS does not open sources (Just I don't know?), so to make it more > search is not possible. > > Android 11 based OS could be possible to use physical keyboard/mouse. > Android 10 based may not, and Android 12 based crashes. > > Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M31160b327165281106451140 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
PrimeOS does not open sources (Just I don't know?), so to make it more search is not possible. Android 11 based OS could be possible to use physical keyboard/mouse. Android 10 based may not, and Android 12 based crashes. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M925e16b233a056a8780c4409 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- > I'm now writing this mail by the drawterm on BlissOS-14.3(emu). > Yes, I changed it from FOSS to EMU. I also tried PromeOS-2.1.3-64-bit-20220719-BETA(Android 11), which works partially. It means it displays drawterm image as portrate, which means too short of width range. I cannot play games/mahjongg... So, the behaviers depend on the kind of Android vendor, even though the same Android 11. Kenji PS: I'm writing this on the drawterm of BlissOS14.3 -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M39dea49fb48e7bbe352ebddf Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
> I'm now writing this mail by the drawterm on BlissOS-14.3(emu). > Yes, I changed it from FOSS to EMU. I also tried PromeOS-2.1.3-64-bit-20220719-BETA(Android 11), which works partially. It means it displays drawterm image as portrate, which means too short of width range. I cannot play games/mahjongg... So, the behaviers depend on the kind of Android vendor, even though the same Android 11. Kenji PS: I'm writing this on the drawterm of BlissOS14.3 -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M39dea49fb48e7bbe352ebddf Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
> Native landscape mode is something I already tested and should work quite > well if it's in. It works sometime, and not sometime... I'm now writing this mail by the drawterm on BlissOS-14.3(emu). Yes, I changed it from FOSS to EMU. FOSS has no merit for me, where setting Japanese keyboad is not easy. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M86f9eebc6fdf0a119efbed1f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
>> On another BlissOS 15(android 12), drawterm crashes at the beginning. Now, I changed to BlissOS14.3[FOSS]... Hmm, this time the drawterm image appears as landscape mode, which I desired. Ok, the remaining problem is the down shift of mouse point. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M246f4a7bc31760719bb6f3bb Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
> On another BlissOS 15(android 12), drawterm crashes at the beginning. > Hmm, very I'm trying to this again. I compiled drawterm-fdroid by the Make.android.config as: SDKPREFIX=/home/okamoto/Android/Sdk JAVA_HOME=/usr BUILDTOOLS=30.0.2 PLATFORM=21 NDKPREFIX=/home/okamoto/Android/Sdk/ndk/25.1.8937393/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/linux-x86_64/bin ~ and got drawterm.apk drawterm-unsigned.apk etc successfully. I tryed to install those onto Android12 PC machine(Blissos 15), and got: <<>> adb install drawterm.apk Performing Streamed Install adb: failed to install drawterm.apk: Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INVALID_APK: Scanning Failed.: Package /data/app/~~NFLd-f6pqvIYChr8tac-TA==/org.echoline.drawterm-Po8k-b3wqCVb8Hr7AquS0A==/base.apk code is missing] <<>> okamoto@saturn:~/src/drawterm-fdroid$ adb install drawterm-unsigned.apk Performing Streamed Install adb: failed to install drawterm-unsigned.apk: Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES: Failed collecting certificates for /data/app/vmdl1159481301.tmp/base.apk: Failed to collect certificates from /data/app/vmdl1159481301.tmp/base.apk: Attempt to get length of null array] I'm not familiar with android... If someone can explain the meaning of above error messages...(Maybe I'm writung wrong place...). Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-Mb9645ba69fd4ddb564c4901d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
Im writing this mail on BlissOS-14.3(FOSS) using acme. As I wrote the drawterm screen is rotated 90 degrees left, and I cannot make it right rotate. One more thig, the physical mouse pointing poit is a bit shift to right(down). One more, the physical mouse does not recongnize middle/right button, only left one. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M8a025fea7ad6060bb73f8b21 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- Im writing this mail on BlissOS14(android 11)on acme, too. Yes, I can use physical keyboard/mouse here, howevewr the screen is drawing 90 degrees rotate left. On another BlissOS 15(android 12), drawterm crashes at the beginning. Hmm, very Kenji > I'm writing this mail on a android Sony SO-41B(version 12). > it's hard to do this... > > Why this does not recognize physical mouse/keyboad? > > Quoth sirjofri : >> Hello all, >> >> I'm happy to inform you that Drawterm (Android) is now listed on the >> official F-Droid android store. >> >> This means, automatically built updates, and you can get the latest version >> without building yourself or asking for an apk, plus one single signed >> certificate. >> >> Get it now: https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.echoline.drawterm/ >> >> Have fun >> >> sirjofri >> >> PS: I'm currently working on an improved version with some more stable app >> structure which should give us a few features and allow us to fix a few very >> annoying bugs. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M12fb960c736a97e881476a00 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
Im writing this mail on BlissOS14(android 11)on acme, too. Yes, I can use physical keyboard/mouse here, howevewr the screen is drawing 90 degrees rotate left. On another BlissOS 15(android 12), drawterm crashes at the beginning. Hmm, very Kenji > I'm writing this mail on a android Sony SO-41B(version 12). > it's hard to do this... > > Why this does not recognize physical mouse/keyboad? > > Quoth sirjofri : >> Hello all, >> >> I'm happy to inform you that Drawterm (Android) is now listed on the >> official F-Droid android store. >> >> This means, automatically built updates, and you can get the latest version >> without building yourself or asking for an apk, plus one single signed >> certificate. >> >> Get it now: https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.echoline.drawterm/ >> >> Have fun >> >> sirjofri >> >> PS: I'm currently working on an improved version with some more stable app >> structure which should give us a few features and allow us to fix a few very >> annoying bugs. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-M12fb960c736a97e881476a00 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
Thank you very much for your kind reply. I'm using wireless keyboard/mouse, which is working well for the android 10 itself. > Regarding mouse, the app only provides some basic mouse usage. You have to > activate mouse mode in the app using the last checkbox (which basically > means, ignore all other checkboxes and use mouse input). I don't see any of this kind of checkbox. I only see 'add server' button. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-Mcf3ed8295fe3a018a2bce78a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
Quoth kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp: > Why this does not recognize physical mouse/keyboad? This may be confusing. I installed this drawterm onto another PC android 10 machine, where I see mouse/keyboard icons in the top of the darwterm image. However, I cannot select any of them by mouse (the PC has not touch panel) Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-Mdf609ab3ec115a836fab5e73 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm on F-Droid
I'm writing this mail on a android Sony SO-41B(version 12). it's hard to do this... Why this does not recognize physical mouse/keyboad? Quoth sirjofri : > Hello all, > > I'm happy to inform you that Drawterm (Android) is now listed on the official > F-Droid android store. > > This means, automatically built updates, and you can get the latest version > without building yourself or asking for an apk, plus one single signed > certificate. > > Get it now: https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.echoline.drawterm/ > > Have fun > > sirjofri > > PS: I'm currently working on an improved version with some more stable app > structure which should give us a few features and allow us to fix a few very > annoying bugs. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T61300a35947fa972-Mebc9991576ed924e29140c74 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy)
I put drawterm.apk onto my android device (SO-41B) successfully, then, I tap that file on my device. It does something for a while, I see graphic progress bar, and then, replied it did not installed., which means failed to install. By the way, android program should compile all for arm64, arm, x86 and x86_64? I compiled it only for arm64, because my device has arm-A53 cpu. Kenji > hey Kenji, > > when I was putting the apk on my phone I used the "adb" tool. I don't > exactly remember the process... the phone has to be paired with the > computer running adb either over a USB cable or over wifi, then the apk can > be installed with adb. I do recall it being a bit difficult to get it > working right consistently... > > - Eli -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tad29bfc223dc4fbe-M7e8fb15d448fa6580aebfcc1 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy)
> This guide can help: > https://www.lifewire.com/install-apk-on-android-4177185 My phone is version 11, and made for Japanese (all the messages are Japanese), which makes me difficult to follow it. However, I'll do it soon... > And there's the mouse offset bug. In my version it's almost the same > offset across the whole screen (y-axis), in the original the offset is > different. I downloaded your cersion from https://github.com/sirjofri/drawterm-android.git, and made it, somewhat different size of 90. Thank you very much. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tad29bfc223dc4fbe-Mc8e9e426a772be6734bc3d7d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy)
By the way, I made your drawterm-android on my ubuntu-20.04.2 machine. My android is version 11, and made by Sony (SO-41B). I now have drawterm.apk file on my home directory, like src/drawterm-android/drawterm.apk (size=777151). How I can install this to my android? I'm a novise user of android... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tad29bfc223dc4fbe-M01aa21d85ff8b03cc3f66aa0 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Software philosophy
> I have ended up using 9front more and more, obviously. 9front was > started specifically to address the fact that Plan 9 from Bell Labs > didn't run on most computers... me, too. 9front have many kinds of device drivers. If we live on other OSs than plan9, we cannot do anything other than those device drivers. However, if we consider it more deep, we don't need not so much kinds of running terminals. We need only one cpu/auth/file server machine and many of drawterms, or as Russ is doing plan9port. If we consider it like this, we should discuss what kinds of computer work we want. I want to run deep learning on plan9... If so, we need 64 bit kernel for cpu server, and python Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-M7f5dc23b2cc11ed09b8c3102 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] document for i219?
In ether82563.c, there are some definitions like: Tdbal = 0x3800, /* Tdesc Base Address Low */ Tdbah = 0x3804, /* Tdesc Base Address High */ Tdlen = 0x3808, /* Descriptor Length */ Tdh = 0x3810, /* Descriptor Head */ Tdt = 0x3818, /* Descriptor Tail */ . I searched its document around, but failed. I can fine a document which describes parts of it. If you know it, please teach me where is it. Kenji PS: I searched i219 drivers, and found only 9front has workable it. However, it uses pcienable() etc. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T2272e8285bf8d48b-Mb38131c95091df99743a4883 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
> PS: this is also a test of 9legacy's upas to attach figures☺ Ok, I got right mail with figures. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M5d59097b8c3833de4eecc4c7 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
> diff -r 859a4e61471b lib/font/bit/lucidasans/unicode.10.font > --- a/lib/font/bit/lucidasans/unicode.6.font Mon May 03 21:04:39 2021 +0200 > +++ b/lib/font/bit/lucidasans/unicode.6.font Mon May 03 22:35:32 2021 +0200 > @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ > 0x9a01 0x9bf5 ../shinonome/k12.9a01 > 0x9c04 0x9dfd ../shinonome/k12.9c04 > 0x9e1a 0x9fa0 ../shinonome/k12.9e1a These lines are ../naga10/knj10.xxx in my list, which I haven't check, just following 9legacy standard. Additionary, I have no vga fonts. Are you using additional patches for this? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M035791b151c190d97b3c Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] testing CRAM-MD5 server
Ok! I received it. I'm using 9legacy's upas. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc97a692181b38e8a-Mcc021284bf1e758fedf9e3c9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] testing CRAM-MD5 server
sorry, every one... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc97a692181b38e8a-M5889b0c08ada8598a722434d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
>>> Pretty much everything supports BIOS mapping from USB->PS/2. >> >> On my machine, only keyboard can use. > > Correction. > I put devkbin.c from 386 kernel to /sys/src/9k/k10 with minor > change, and compiled 9k10f again. > > Yes, USB mouse/keybord works for amd64 kernel now. And now, I can input 日本語 on 9legacy usb keyboard/mouse. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-M962d821233660959318e1bfa Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
>> Pretty much everything supports BIOS mapping from USB->PS/2. > > On my machine, only keyboard can use. Correction. I put devkbin.c from 386 kernel to /sys/src/9k/k10 with minor change, and compiled 9k10f again. Yes, USB mouse/keybord works for amd64 kernel now. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-Me2e1468cc663534a083b2f15 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
> for example, Go1.16.3 and cmd/ga by /amd64/bin/6l. cmd/gs by /amd64/bin/6l Sorry Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-M2e20e2a693355ebef705c287 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
> 1) 9legacy on amd64 is unable to use more than 4Gb of memory (and > possibly has other issues?) True. for example, Go1.16.3 and cmd/ga by /amd64/bin/6l. Somewhat strange/different vihaviour from 386' kernel for example vesa☺ > 2) fossil+venti on amd64 seems to be largely untested and bugs are > being discovered and fixed: I have no problem to use fossil+venti other than it somewhat slower than cwfs. > 3) some are using fossil+venti extensively on 9front/amd64 with > success, even though fossil was removed from the base system due to > bugs and no one stepping up to fix those If we can use fossil+venti + 9front, it may be the best one, I feel. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-M1b5236b18e61f11a9914675f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
>> I've fixed this issue a couple of days ago. The most recent archives >> were not in ustar format. Please re-download the bootstrap. > > Yes, I did it, and got the following error: > > Building Go cmd/dist using /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap > kickpager page size 4K color -1 > iallocb: no memory 864/78293674 > out of physical memory > 133: compile killed: out of physical memory > kickpager page size 4K color -1 > kickpager page size 4K color -1 > go tool compile: exit status: compile 133: killed: Insufficient physical > memory This error might have occured when 6c/6l are running. I saw same error message to compile /sys/src/cmd/gs by native amd64 terminal. On amd64 mode 9legacy terminal term% cd /sys/src/cmd/gs term% make install then got the error messages like: kickpager page size 4k color -1 out of physical memory mk: pcc -o...:exit status=rc 3033: pcc 3035: 6l: 6l 3036: killed: insufficient physical memory rc 131: mk 132: error This error occured mk is trying to link many object to final gs. Interestingly, this does not occur when compiling on 386 environment, like objtype=amd64 mk install. Then, I suspect /amd64/bin/6l has some problem. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M119a1fda009e37594329 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
> Pretty much everything supports BIOS mapping from USB->PS/2. On my machine, only keyboard can use. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-M1762faa63bcd83e73e6c2009 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware
I'm using 9legacy file/auth/cpu server of 3rd ed. core-i5-3470S (2.9GHz) machine with two 2.5 inch disks, one for fossil, another for venti. > * amd64 arch. I wonder amd64 architecture on 9legacy is sufficient to full use... If you use 9front, amd64 is much better than 386, I think. > * >= 16GB RAM. Then, it is unneccessary.☺ > * 2 x USB1/2 (for kbd/mouse), USB-3 for external blu-ray writer. usb-3 is not supported on 9legacy. It works only on 9front. For the usb issue, amd64(9legacy) does not support usb mouse/keyboard, only ps2 keyboard/mouse. Is there any such machine having PS/2 interface around? > * basic bitmap video (VGA/VESA is fine). vesa is now working very fine for me up to 1920x1080x32 (just for me now). I'm now working for 9legacy, because it uses fossil+venti, which is technically newer than cwfs(9front), and then fancier for me. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-M317dd930eddd5d1a41e3d65f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
I included a picture taken on 9legacy's opossum screen.
On the 6th line, there is a words of '日本語Nul言語Nul',
which should be '日本語(言語)'.
The '(' or ')' is replaced by NUL character, which may be
caused from a library under your program, not from yours.
This is just my guess.
Kenji
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Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
> Yes, now we can see right Japanese text! It's not enough. There is still 'NUL' character when 漢字 and ( or ), hankaku moji, are mixed: like 例(日本語) ==>例NUL日本語NUL Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-Md930fcb8c502bf42ec80451d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
Yes, now we can see right Japanese text! Very quick fix, thanks. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M5edc10f1830b81c5be2d7bc0 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- That was unexpected, but it should be much better now! Now the character set hint is actually used ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Am Freitag, 23 April 2021 06:37 schrieb : > Please look at http://google.co.jp > > We see many 'NULL' on this page. > > Kenji > > > - > > 9fans: 9fans > Permalink: > https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M26405485fc05d412397ae633 > Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-Me661195a090dd94d77e2ea9e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
Re: [9fans] sam and samterm in Go
> just published 9fans.net/go/cmd/sam and 9fans.net/go/cmd/samterm. They > seem to work well enough for simple use but I haven't really hammered > hard on them. Samterm requires the plan9port devdraw, for now. How I can use those sam/samterm on plan9? I compiled those, and run sam as teerm% sam samterm: drawinit: drawfcall.New: exec: "devdraw": executable file not found in $path Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T15127d7ddd5c7310-Mf6b543b0a7256295a324bd68 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
Please look at http://google.co.jp We see many 'NULL' on this page. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M26405485fc05d412397ae633 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
> One big disadvantage is not having 'colspan'... Nice, now it has this, and do resizing of the window! Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-Maa74ff3b8e96100d5c595a51 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
I>> srv net!9p.io!9fs: mount failed: fossil authCheck: auth protocol not finished >> >> I have no account on 9p.io... > > srv -n 9p.io sources /n/sources Thank you Richard! Ok, I made two diff files, 1)libdraw.diff 2)libmemdraw.diff, which are relatively large. I'm going to send it to Dave. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M32676e934b3940757882b3b4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
> 9fs sources > ape/diff -Nru /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/libdraw /sys/src/libdraw > >/tmp/libdraw.diff 9fs 9p.io (sources is for cs.bell-labs.com for me) post... user? kokamoto password: srv net!9p.io!9fs: mount failed: fossil authCheck: auth protocol not finished I have no account on 9p.io... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M520be71fa4327204c00f59f8 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
> True, I noticed for instance light grey tones might show up as white. That's > on a external Dell screen which is not the newest. On the fancy Macbook Air > screen it's the grey. (E.g. on google.com, which is supposed to have a white > background anyway ;)) The conversion from hex to draw.Color is really crude > right now, so maybe it only works when the screen has a lot of gamut. Apart > from that both vesa modes 1280x800x32 and 1920x1080x32 work for me, but only > tested so far with VMWare and drawterm. Hm, does it not render at all then at > 1920x1080x32? I found the bug in libdraw and libmemdraw, because 9front does those very fine. I thought 9front is much more tested harder than 9legacy, then I compasred those source sets, and got success to draw very fine colors of opossum on 9legacy now. This also solved the resolution problem for vesa driver, and now I can use 1920x1080x32 resolution! How I can make diffs for those? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-Meb7304ab870f2c20b31ac504 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
d anyway ;)) The conversion from hex to draw.Color is really crude right now, so maybe it only works when the screen has a lot of gamut. Apart from that both vesa modes 1280x800x32 and 1920x1080x32 work for me, but only tested so far with VMWare and drawterm. Hm, does it not render at all then at 1920x1080x32? drawterm to 9legacy works very fine as that for 9front. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M627fd8f39a719aaa5a830c06 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
> I've fixed this issue a couple of days ago. The most recent archives > were not in ustar format. Please re-download the bootstrap. Yes, I did it, and got the following error: Building Go cmd/dist using /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap kickpager page size 4K color -1 iallocb: no memory 864/78293674 out of physical memory 133: compile killed: out of physical memory kickpager page size 4K color -1 kickpager page size 4K color -1 go tool compile: exit status: compile 133: killed: Insufficient physical memory I made go1.16.3 for amd64 by using 386 go, and gotit. However, it also errored as that above, yes tool compile. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-Mf291b24868ea007883da4e47 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
Ok, I write the fact which happened to make go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap
from go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tbz:
-from here
I made first go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tar on this Plan9.
cpu% cat go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tar|{cd /sys/lib/go; tar xT}
tar: // Copyright 2018 The Go Authors. All rights reserved.
// Use of this source code is governed by a B: ENSE file.
// Package analysisutil defines various helper functions
// used by two or more packages beneath go/analysis.
package analysisutil
import (
"bytes"
"go/ast"
"go/printer"
"go/token"
"go/types"
"io/ioutil"
)
// Format returns a string representation of the expression.
func Format(fset *token.FileSet, x ast.Expr) string {
var b bytes.Buffer
printer.Fprint(&b, fset, x)
return b.String()
}
// HasSideEffects reports whether evaluation of e has side effects.
func HasSideEffects(info *types.Info, e ast.Expr) bool {
safe := true
ast.Inspect(e, func(node ast.Node) bool {
switch n := node.(type) {
case *ast.CallExpr:
typVal := info.Types[n.Fun]
switch {
case typVal.IsType():
// Type conversion, which is safe.
case typVal.IsBuiltin():
// Builtin func, conservatively assumed to not
// be safe for now.
safe = false
return false
default:
// A non-builtin func or method call.
// Conservatively assume that all of them have
// side effects for now.
safe = false
return false
}
case *ast.UnaryExpr:
if n.Op == token.ARROW {
safe = false
return false
}
}
return true
})
return !safe
}
// Unparen returns e with any enclosing parentheses stripped.
func Unparen(e ast.Expr) ast.Expr {
for {
p, ok := e.(*ast.ParenExpr)
if !ok {
return e
}
e = p.X
}
}
// ReadFile reads a �: non-numeric checksum in header
tar: bad archive header checksum in archive: name // Copyright 2018 The Go
Authors. All rights reserved.
// Use of this source code is governed by a B...; expected 0377 got
0125506
cpu%
cpu% lc /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap
bin pkg src test
to here--
I, then, make go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap file tree on Linux, and copy it to
/sys/lib/go.
>From the procedures above, I thought go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tbz was built on
>a
certain system other than Plan9.
Kenji
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Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
> About Go 1.16.3, I had initially another problem when compiling. While > running the compiler expected the bootstrapping files to be in a certain > path. I think something like /tmp/glenda/.../..., so I renamed the path and > it worked. I didn't check further though, but I'll check again later. > Otherwise it worked, although I only did make.rc without the tests. I did all.rc for 386, and got errors as: from here== Building Go cmd/dist using /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-386-bootstrap Building Go toolchain1 using /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-386-bootstrap. Building Go bootstrap cmd/go (go_bootstrap) using Go toolchain1. Building Go toolchain2 using go_bootstrap and Go toolchain1. Building Go toolchain3 using go_bootstrap and Go toolchain2. Building packages and commands for plan9/386. # Testing packages. ... panic: test timed out after 9m0s goroutine 142130 [running]: panic(0x1b60e0, 0x10be4020) /sys/lib/go/386/1.16.3/src/runtime/panic.go:1065 +0x4ac fp=0x10a4bfc8 sp=0x10a4bf64 pc=0x368fc testing.(*M).startAlarm.func1() ... FAILruntime 544.833s ... *** Test killed: ran too long (10m0s). FAILcmd/api 600.200s ... panic: test timed out after 9m0s ... FAILcmd/compile/internal/gc 562.779s ... panic: test timed out after 9m0s ... FAILcmd/cover 558.587s ... go test proxy running at GOPROXY=http://127.0.0.1:51979/mod *** Test killed: ran too long (10m0s). FAILcmd/go 600.208s ... panic: test timed out after 9m0s ... FAILcmd/internal/moddeps545.735s ... panic: test timed out after 9m0s ... FAILcmd/link559.764s ... FAILcmd/link/internal/ld557.792s ok cmd/link/internal/loader14.522s *** Test killed: ran too long (10m0s). FAILcmd/nm 600.171s *** Test killed: ran too long (10m0s). FAILcmd/objdump 600.771s panic: test timed out after 9m0s ... FAILcmd/pack552.921s ... FAILcmd/vet 547.152s FAIL go tool dist: Failed: exit status: 'go 6839: 1' all.rc 165: go 6566: 1 ===to here== It took about half a day to accomplish! Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M2aee9a91a1c5704c75b29d40 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
> Please try with this bootstrap: > > http://9legacy.org/download/go/go1.16.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tbz I got the file, however, which has the same file size with that I tried... >> Is the kernel working right? >> What is 4100M loast? > > This kernel doesn't handle more than 4 GB of memory, > so this is expected. If so, we have no advantage to use amd64 mode, right? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M855e91a9c118b076d657cfbb Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
I forgot to write that opossum-master runs successfull partially. 'Partially' means the color is a little bit wrong, and I cannot use vesa mode on 1920x1080x32, can do just under 1280x1024, and now using it as 1024x768x32(sigh). JS support of opossum becomes much better... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-M065cb7408d643eb1ec0c5aea Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] amd64 bootstrap file fo go1.16.3
I cannot compile go1.16.3 using go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap with error from /sys/lib/go/go-plan9-amd64-bootstrap/pkg/tool/plan9_amd64/compile like: io error. Does the bootstrap file is confirmed to work right? My amd64 kernel messages are like: Plan 9 mmuinit: vmstart 0xf000 vmunused 0xf03c1000 vmunmapped 0xf040 vmend 0xfe00 sys->pd 0x108003 0x108023 l 3 0xff7fbfdfeff8 107023 l 2 0xff7fbfd8 108023 l 1 0xff7fbc00 e3 l 1 0xff7fbc00 e3 base 0xf03cf000 ptr 0xf03cf000 nunits 14430464 physalloc color=0 base=0xe00 size=0x21000 apic0: hz 100054450 max 1000544 min 10005 div 32 pcirouting: ignoring south bridge PCI.0.31.0 8086/1e48 igbe: p->cls 0x0, setting to 0x10 #l0: i82579: 1Gbps port 0xf7f0 irq 11: 7446a0bbb2bb #S/sdE: ich: 0xf7f36000 sata 3, 1 ports, irq 5 8133M memory: 2756K+220M kernel, 3810M user, 4100M lost < user[none]: sys version... !Adding key: dom=jitaku.localdomain proto=p9sk1 user[sys]: password: time... init: starting /bin/rc term% Is the kernel working right? What is 4100M loast? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T75ee4ccd407669dd-Me41d952c4b1f62cf67a822bb Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] i3 machine
Family=6, Model=3A applies to all of the 3rd Generation Core i CPUs.
I examined those among the machines I have, and got the results as:
x86intel[] table in /sys/src/9/pc/devarch.c, like:
x86intel[]=
{
/* {6, 0x3A, 16, "Core i7"}, */
{ 6,0x3A, 16, "3rd Gen Core i-3/5/7", },
{ 6,0x3C, 16, "4th Gen Core i-5", },
{ 6,0x5E, 16, "6th Gen Core i-5"},
---
}
Above lines works fine on my machines.
Hoever, we have a line of
{ 6,-1, 16, "P6", },
below those lines, so we may not need the above 4 lines.
Kenji
> My i3-3240 (3.4GHz) machine shows
> 3394 MHz GenuieneIntel Core i7 (cpuid: AX 0x306A9 DX 0xBFFBFBFF)
> at bootinng. Frequency is right however Model name is not.
>
> AX value means Family=6, Model=3A which is listed as "Core i7" in
> x86intel[] table in /sys/src/9/pc/devarch.c, like:
> x86intel[]=
> {
>
> {6, 0x3A, 16, "Core i7"},
> ---
> }
>
> Is this table correct?
>
> Kenji
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[9fans] i3 machine
My i3-3240 (3.4GHz) machine shows
3394 MHz GenuieneIntel Core i7 (cpuid: AX 0x306A9 DX 0xBFFBFBFF)
at bootinng. Frequency is right however Model name is not.
AX value means Family=6, Model=3A which is listed as "Core i7" in
x86intel[] table in /sys/src/9/pc/devarch.c, like:
x86intel[]=
{
{6, 0x3A, 16, "Core i7"},
---
}
Is this table correct?
Kenji
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Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation
Wao! I don't have lawyer's opinion, however I can understant the Plan9 comes to the state of all the Plan9 lovers. Congraturations!! >None of us would be talking about any of this if it >weren't for the work done there for decades. If we forget it, we'll lose everything, I think. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf20bce89ef96d4b6-M400f7f288f327b55e5d879d8 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] patches from 9front
> hey everyone, > > first of all this has turned out to be somewhat difficult! I have also > been delayed from looking at it very much by other things going on. > > all I have done so far is look a bit at tlsclient. it seemed like once > that supports dp9ik the rest is just simple rc scripts. > > another note... I have heard someone (moody?) has ported dp9ik > tlsclient to unix :) > > - Eli Hi, Eli. If you'd get success to port 9front's tlsclient, 9legacy has no gui terminal for amd64, even on vesa mode, then next is to port realemu etc... I like Plan9 by the reason why it's minimulist and file oriented nature, which is maintained and developped further by 9front. I don't know what was occured when 9front was forked, and what kind of antimode against 9front was made from that time... However I admire cinap who keeps 9front usable for a long time. I think he payed much effors! I'd like to ask all the Plan9 developpers to unite the Plan9 into 9front. Kenji PS. PLease don't panish me for my ... -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc82939f1fda0e479-M66502582cd45239c96068a7a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
> Also it's quite speculative how far one could get with JS which is > essentially based on goja and domino. Yes, JS works in more limited than netsurf, although the latter has a little functions. One big disadvantage is not having 'colspan'... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M772bbdaf91487f202670df6e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] netsurf or opossum
Thank you very much for your technical explanation, Philip. By the way the file sizes of both are: --rwxrwxr-x M 24 sys sys 51135788 Jan 7 15:33 /amd64/bin/netsurf --rwxr-xr-x M 24 sys sys 15456437 Jan 7 09:32 /amd64/bin/opossum Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-Me2d2ec238760de604631385b Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] netsurf or opossum
I got now rwo new web browsers which can do css and/or js on my 9front box. Both have almost same functionality and speed etc. A page with JS (https://eonet.ne.jp) is almost same as that by JS enabled netsurf. Netsurf is written in C, and Opossum is in Go. Most basic difference is that opossum is written for Plan 9 from the beginning which may be better for us... How do you think? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a725c37f61954a8-M0b8185d6fd705fbab2715278 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] which programs use dynld(2)?
Subject says all. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tbca49dda768294c8-M2d57443b7deb9fda0e060ff0 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] python2.7.6 and pip
> I installed binary distribution of python2.6.7(I'm trying to compile > it on my machine, but not success yet), and tried to install pip > by the command of > % python get-pip.py > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TCP_NODELAY' I recompiled python2.7.6 by the help from jas adding -DTCP_NODELAY. Yes, it disappeared, however, I got another error saying no _ctypes module. According to jas, we have to implement it on python2.7.6. Then, to perform term% pythonb get-pip.py is difficult here. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta10c6b46f1dfa71e-M7b1e31895b6167746b0b30c4 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] libnofp
Another one missing.☺ strzip ? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7ea39ad13f4db8d3-Me7a78d6a8bd3062508f0ae2a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] libnofp
> The geoff's patch assumes there is /sys/src/libnofp stuff. > Plan9 Release4 has not such directory. > Where I can find it? Sorry, make noise. It's under the contrib/geoff. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7ea39ad13f4db8d3-Ma16a43524fa518c41d0295ef Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
[9fans] libnofp
The geoff's patch assumes there is /sys/src/libnofp stuff. Plan9 Release4 has not such directory. Where I can find it? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7ea39ad13f4db8d3-Mef5043303424b3c15d950d3c Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] python2.7.6 and pip
Ok, thanks I'll write to you. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta10c6b46f1dfa71e-M6872935c0c421daf84bc3304 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- Not sure why this text/plain message is marked invalid given it is, well, a plain text message. Here are the details: Kenji, TCP_NODELAY should be enabled in the 2.7.6 build. Make sure you have all the APE patches from 9legacy or check the sources: https://9p.io/sources/contrib/jas/cpython-src.arch.bz2 https://9p.io/sources/contrib/jas/src/cmd/cpython-src.arch.bz2 https://9p.io/sources/contrib/jas/src/ape-source.arch Python 2.7.6 is the last viable release on Plan 9 until a rewrite of the _p9ssl.c version of the ssl module is completed. After 2.7.6 the Python group back ported the openssl module from Python 3 to the 2.7 branch and it broke the underlying ssl module hooks used in the Plan 9 Python 2.7.6 port that leveraged libsec instead of openssl. Feel free to contact me off list if you need additional help. Jeff -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta10c6b46f1dfa71e-M597edfb83f7d30f60951427f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- End Message ---
[9fans] python2.7.6 and pip
I installed binary distribution of python2.6.7(I'm trying to compile it on my machine, but not success yet), and tried to install pip by the command of % python get-pip.py I got failed, and got the error messages as: Traceback (most recent call last): File "./get-pip.py:23484", in main() File "./get-pip.py:198", in main bootstrap(tmpdir=tmpdir) File "./get-pip.py:83", in bootstrap from pip._internal.commands.install import InstallCommand File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_internal/commands/install.py:24", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_internal/cli/req_command.py:16", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_internal/index/package_finder.py:21", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_internal/index/collector.py:14", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_vendor/requests/__init__.py:43", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_vendor/urllib3/__init__.py:7", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_vendor/urllib3/connectionpool.py:29", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_vendor/urllib3/connection.py:68", in File "/tmp/tmplQrajV/pip.zip/pip/_vendor/urllib3/connection.py:96", in HTTPConnection AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TCP_NODELAY' Anyone got success above? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Ta10c6b46f1dfa71e-M30ffb2a7fab6ac0c8dead543 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] 9legacy on vultr: so close.
The 9legacy wants classic (yeah, everything classic before 1995?) hardware like C:, D: etc. When I weant to change it to AHCI, I had to rewrite a little like sdE0 etc. By the way, I have 9legacy system here, and I can test your git9 if you want. Kenji > I tried to get it working a little while ago to test out git9 changes, > and failed to get it installed. > > The hardware provided by vultr seems to work fine, but the installer > gets confused by the order that the drives show up in, and tries to > install the 9fat to the CD. Turns out writing to read-only media works > poorly. > > The installer should probably remember the drive its installing to, > and install 9fat there too. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9a7210cabd5c42f8-M0b81c92bb63549ea2d35a803 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?
> Some motherboards (I don't know about Dell) have a special setting > to enable different mouse protocols at boot time. Look for > something like "usb legacy support". No, it has no such a menu, which says usb kb/mouse will work alwayes. By the way, 9front runs on this machine... Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tb0563985f700146f-M21a5e064fc691f7d6c56c79c Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?
> My PC is DELL's small desktop with i5-2340(?). I happen to have a chance to test this on another machine, which has ps/2 interface on board. Dell's has no ps/2 interface. The machine having ps/2 interface DOES boot with usb kb/mouse without ps/2 kb/mouse attached. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T99364400713696a7-M08c59de17a5f9db505c87062 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
> Might be worth posting what wasn't working, and what > you changed to make it work, so that others can figure > it out if they run into the same issue. :) This is Richard's work not mine, so he could write it if neccessary, I think. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tcd7eb3aa393ce9c8-M5c8d6a4b3255e2dad8dfd39d Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
> Ok, I got success by Richard's very kind help. > Now, I can use wifi on rpi3B (ARM Cortex-A53) device > using NEC WARPSTAR Aterm WR8170N. I forgot. It is working on vanilla plan9 by Richard not on 9front device. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tfc543b71c07c8f2a-M6da7e290cb1584385e02ebed Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
Ok, I got success by Richard's very kind help. Now, I can use wifi on rpi3B (ARM Cortex-A53) device using NEC WARPSTAR Aterm WR8170N. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7f7d56031acb8c77-Mee8e8fe211a2876539479ffc Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- > Current raspberry pi kernel source is on 9p.io in > /sources/contrib/miller/9/bcm Hi, Richard. I'm now working to make your ether4330.c to work on 9front system, which is now my base sysytem. Your current source can work with wpa2/psk? I tried your 2018 version, but failed. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5569d70bd2a3e0de-Mc49a0eead9caebcc1226a1a3 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
Re: [9fans] git9 on 9legacy
> I got a box running 9legacy running, usb keyboard/mouse are working? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T04ec34b12463154b-M951fed502f0a1e59a8e76b6a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
> ether0=type=4330 essid= wificrypt=wpa2 fs= address> auth= Sorry, s/ether0/ether1/ I confused the cmdline.txt for 9front test. I tested your codes by ether1=type=4330 on your bcm system.. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T1606390b5dc80594-M87f5e0ea56a10e86bc51d86e Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
> What's in your cmdline.txt? --- ether0=type=4330 essid= wificrypt=wpa2 fs= auth= --- Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf60f5ce8f06c4c59-M67fc8509fb05474bf5ceae80 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
Thank you very much Richard san. > Yes, it does with my two routers (buffalo n300 and fritz!box). I'm using NEC WARPSTAR WR8170N router, and got the error like: I compiled 9pi3wifi by using your pi3wifi definition file. Plan9 from Bell Labs board rev: 0xa02082 firmware rev: 1521643642 cpu0: 1200MHz ARM Cortex-A53 r0p4 ... #l1: 4330: 10Mbps port 0x0 itq -1: 998M memory: 202M kernel data, 795M user, 3780M swap ... ether4330: chip 43430 rev 1 type 1 ether4330: firmware ready ether4330: addr ... user[none]: sys ether4330: [?] error status 23 flags 0x1 reason 0 event: 10 18 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 17 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 3a 9d 2b b6 51 77 6c 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 event: 10 18 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 17 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 34 3d c4 ee 1e 68 77 6c 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T30d4b204b9bf907d-Ma1276be5b2d69b6f621e20de Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive?
> Current raspberry pi kernel source is on 9p.io in > /sources/contrib/miller/9/bcm Hi, Richard. I'm now working to make your ether4330.c to work on 9front system, which is now my base sysytem. Your current source can work with wpa2/psk? I tried your 2018 version, but failed. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T5569d70bd2a3e0de-Mc49a0eead9caebcc1226a1a3 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?
> Offtopic. ? > I got your first email. I'll take a look at it if you have a problem, and If > you can be more specific it will help me debug. The usb kb/mouse are working fine during installation of the system, however, after rebooting from the installed HDD, both don't work. I can see glenda rio start window well, but mouse and keyboard don't work. I see some error message like, didn't detect ehci within 500 mS. My PC is DELL's small desktop with i5-2340(?). Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tbd48e5c0f4b3859a-M2cbb3c21ffda8e88012b0b2a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
Re: [9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?
Wao! New mail server DOES accept my email! Thanks, Russ. Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tbcae79d77657773f-M2d5da0367d3e7c2d61241e59 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription --- Begin Message --- 9legacy doen't support usb kb/mouse? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tdb98147583863c93-M4a6bcd9488ef37810f1448fe Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription--- End Message ---
[9fans] 9legacy usb kb/mouse?
9legacy doen't support usb kb/mouse? Kenji -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tdb98147583863c93-M4a6bcd9488ef37810f1448fe Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
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Subject change to ether Yuk driver for 88E8036
I noticed the 9fans reopen now.
I tried this mail at June 16, 2016, but failed...
I'd like to announce this to all, particulary eric.
I posted a mail to 9fans, but I don't have received that mail,
so retries it to this mailing-list.
I asked the above line for about two weeks ago to 9fans.
Now I got a solution by myself.
The problem was 88E8036(Yukfe) chip has a small amount
of RAM buffer, which eric didn't pay attention.
I tried to may diff file, however, I wrote too many comment lines
on the file, which leads to a fuge sized diff file.
Therefore, I'll write only the differences between the last cdrom
of 9front and myself.
belows are the data:
(please pay attention to ===> lines)
-from here-
1)static Vtab vtab[] = {
0x11ab, 0x4351, 1514, "88e8036",
2)in buffinit() function:
if(q == Qr || q == Qr + Qportsz){
===>t = end - start;
rrwrite32(c, q + Rpon, t - 8192/8); /* set Rx upper
threshold, pause on */
===>rrwrite32(c, q + Rpoff, t/4); /* set Rx lower
threshold pause off */
3)in phyinit() function:
if((c->feat & Fnewphy) == 0){
u = phyread(c, Phyextctl);
u &= ~0xf70;/* clear downshift counters */
u |= 0x7<<4;/* mac tx clock = 25mhz */
if(c->type == Yukec)
u |= 2*Dnmstr | Dnslv;
else
===>u |= (0<<8 & 3<<8)|(1<<8 & 3<<8);
..
}else{
===>if(c->feat != 0)/* exclude Yukfe */
u |= Ppmdixa >> 1; /* why the shift? */
if(c->type == Yukfep && c->rev == 0){
}
.
+++ if (c->type == Yukfe){ /* led control */
+++ u = u1 = phyread(c, Phyphy);
+++ u &= ~(0xf <<4);
+++ u |= 0x0b<<4 & 0xf<<4;
+++ phywrite(c, 0x16, u);
+++ u1 |= (1<<8 & 7<<8) <<1;
+++ phywrite(c, 0x18, u1);
+++ }
phywrite(c, Phyintm, Anok | Anerr | Lsc); /* phy
interrupt mask */
dprint("phyid %.4ux step %.4ux\n", phyread(c, 2), phyread(c, 3));
}
--- to here -
Kenji
[9fans] etheryuk.c for Marvell 88E8036?
I'm now facing a serious problem to use 88E8036 rev 16 chip (11ab/4351) on Sony VAIO F-type notebook. Adding the device ID above, I can read data without problem. However, to transmit a larger (say 2500 bytes) data, it hangs up. For an example, cat test in the network booted terminal without local disk. The chips shows pci data as: 11ab/4351 5 0:fc24 16384 2:5001 256 The chip c->type is Yukfe, and c->rev=1, c->feat=0. When I look the linux source, it says the chip is SKY2_HW_RSS_BROKEN, and intentionally gave up to solve this in the kernel layer... Have you any suggestion, eric? Kenji
[9fans] Marvell Yukon 88E8055 NIC
I think this is written by eric, however, it may concern to others, and I'm now a 9front user. I use Panasonic CF-R7 C2D notebook(maybe around 2009) which has Yukon 88E8055 ether chip. The etheryuk.c has no this entry. Please add the entry of 0x11ab, 0x4363 1514 "88e8055" to vtab[]. This chip works file! Thank you eric! Kenji
Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)
> That's also quite old. There's one called drawterm-elcapitan, take that or > compile from the master branch. My problem caused by the fact I launched the drawterm from Application directory by GUI, where I replaced the drawterm binary in /Applications/darwterm/Contents/MacOS by the one I compiled from your source. When I launch the drawterm-cocoa from terminal, it works very fine. Kenji
Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)
> drawterm.bz2 2015-04-07 207.6kb 297.6kb sorry. Kenji
Re: [9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)
> As for drawterm-cocoa: Sure you're using the newest version? Sounds like the > old one, which was very broken indeed. I downloaded source file fron bitbucket named as drawterm.bz2 2015-04-07 207.6kb Kenji
[9fans] plan9port for El Capitan(10.11.3)
I'm using p9p on MacOS 10.11.3, and having a strange behaviour. I have to resize the 9term (or any other) window to show its contents. In the case of drawterm(Jas's cocoa version), I have no prompt before I type the keyboard. In this case resizing the window doesn't help. Are these behaiviours expected ones? Kenji
Re: [9fans] aux/vga hsync/hblank confustion
> the hardcoded vesa standard modes in vesadb.c seem to use the field > in the right way i think. I don't see the source, however, it's the vesa mode to have some horizontal shift here. Kenji
Re: [9fans] glendix
> http://www.glendix.org/ Please show me short summary of differences between p9p and this. The major aim seems to be the same to me, that is, to avoid to write <<>>. Kenji
Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.
> okay with comparatively little ram. the primary reason that we > haven't pushed to replace upas with nupas by default in 9front is > insufficent testing with the mbox format. I'm using nupas on 9front, which is much superior than upas. Thanks eric! Kenji
Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?
> Ok, this is calm enough to me. > This may be so called calm-fan... No, I feel still it's noisy. At last, I tried DC-DC converter as adviced here. I use TDK-Lambda CC3-1205SF-E (3W type), and set it as 12V input and 6V output. Yeah! No noise now, and the top panel of this cubic small box is cold even at 31 degree C today! Kenji
Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?
> Therefore I can do the voltage down for this power > supply. Before try this, I reminded a corrupted small pc which was not noisy 8cm fan. I took this fan, and attached to the new mini-ITX cube power supply with 12V. This fas is 12V 0.23A, 11 fins. Other fans I tried are 12V 0.13A with 7 fines, 12V 0.18A with 11 fins etc, all of which are noisy. Ok, this is calm enough to me. This may be so called calm-fan... Kenji
Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?
Thanks both of Nicolas and lyndon. I didn't think that's possibility. My mini-ITX box is very cool, when I touch the top, I feel cold!, even at 33 degree C room temperature. Therefore I can do the voltage down for this power supply. Kenji
Re: [9fans] calm SFX power supply?
Thanks Steve. > When I built my home server I tried hard to make it low power and quiet. Indeed... Any low power machine must be considered as cheap one, I suppose. > I also replaced the case fan and cpu fan with Fractal Design Silent fans. I'll try silent 8cm fan. However it will rotate in full power anytime.☺ Kenji
[9fans] calm SFX power supply?
Now, I'm using mini-IPX aluminum box with cheap 300W SFX power supply. This supply is very noisy. I opened the power supply, and found there is no fan speed control in this box. The fan is connected through only two lines, no control line. Anyone knows speed controlable SFX power supply? Kenji
Re: [9fans] What is for 64 bit 9front?
> i find it very useful to launch many large processes on cpu servers. > it's really nice to have 15gb of buffers on the file server > (with only 15 page table entries!) ls -l /386/bin/gs /amd64/bin/gs shows: --rwxrwxr-x M 20 sys sys 13287922 Jun 5 15:49 /386/bin/gs --rwxrwxr-x M 20 sys sys 15537582 Jul 31 21:42 /amd64/bin/gs. You mean these difference is negligible? Kenji
Re: [9fans] My 9pi box
> Question: does the box drive the screen? If so, what did you use to > connect the screen to it? HDMA? USB maybe? :) It's connected through HDMI with high-vision mode to 20" TV.. TV may not be good for PC programming, because it is desighned to watch from a distans. The screen is orthodic vertical, and my eyes are little bit higher position. However, it's very good for short time writing. I recommend you to use HDMI, it's easy. Kenji
[9fans] My 9pi box
Hi, this is my 9pi box made using alluminum drink bottle, '午後の紅茶(afternoon tea)' . Kenji
Re: [9fans] What is for 64 bit 9front?
> are 32 bit machines, but i use thinkpad x230 which has > 16gb of ram as a terminal. 64bit is just normal now on Yeah! You have moster notepc! Kenji
[9fans] What is for 64 bit 9front?
I'm wondering why peoples are paying much efforts to make 64 bit plan9 system. I know it may help if we use the Plan9 system for open large server. However, is it the usual case for Plan9 usage? What is the usage of your Plan9 system now? Me? It's a favourit thing to me...☺ If many peoples are the same, it's no problem. Just from my curiousity. Kenji
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:48:34AM +0900, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > >> Now I'm writing this main using a pxe booted terminal with the above >> server. > Maybe it is not true. I'm checking this now. No, it was not true. As I have lab's Plan9 distro. on this machine, I was confused it. Now, I changed the /lib/ndb/local of the 9front's server machine's that terminal item, from bootf=/386/9pcf to bootf=/386/9bootpxe, and it solved the problem. Now I can pxe boot the machine on 9front's environment. Kenji
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
>>> On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:48:34AM +0900, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > Now I'm writing this main using a pxe booted terminal with the above > server. Maybe it is not true. I'm checking this now. By the way, this mail is written from a win7 machine drawtermed to the A68N-5000 9front file/auth/cpu server! Kenji
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
>> On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:48:34AM +0900, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: >> realmodemem file is provided by the '#P' kernel device. >> realmode file is provided by aux/realemu. > > 9/pc/devvesa.c has both of them. Sorry, it was 9/pc/vgavesa.c. Anyway, now I have file/auth/cpu server on this A68N-5000 machine with 1680x1050x32 resolution. During this process, the problem disappeared. Now I have /dev/realmode. I don't know why. Now I'm writing this main using a pxe booted terminal with the above server. Kenji
