[9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

2011-02-25 Thread Jason Dreisbach
Hi all,

Can anyone help shed some light in my search for a low power minimal plan
9 hardware setup to start experimenting with. Has anyone had success running
plan 9 on a Fit PC (the only atom box we have access to)?

Gumstix would be ideal, but their plan 9 support is a bit half baked right
now. Wireless support would be a huge plus.

We are trying to do a bit of research into robotic applications of plan 9.
The p9 filesystem protocol seems like a real neat method to acquire
resources of nearby bots. Allowing for very minimal, modularized robot
configurations.

Any tips? Am I out of my mind?

Thanks,

Jason


Re: [9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

2011-02-25 Thread Jack Norton

Jason Dreisbach wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone help shed some light in my search for a low power minimal 
plan 9 hardware setup to start experimenting with. Has anyone had 
success running plan 9 on a Fit PC (the only atom box we have access to)? 

Gumstix would be ideal, but their plan 9 support is a bit half baked 
right now. Wireless support would be a huge plus.


We are trying to do a bit of research into robotic applications of plan 
9. The p9 filesystem protocol seems like a real neat method to acquire 
resources of nearby bots. Allowing for very minimal, modularized robot 
configurations. 


Any tips? Am I out of my mind?

Thanks,

Jason


Jason,

I am currently attempting a little ROV using some 9p for control, but I 
am using inferno hosted on linux.  That might be the quicker way to get 
your 'bots speaking 9p.  I am doing this because right off the bat I 
need a webcam.  I also need to prototype this very quickly so mucking 
about in hardware drivers and OS nuances is not an option.

Sounds like fun!  I'm curious what you come up with!

-Jack



Re: [9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

2011-02-25 Thread Jacob Todd
Does inferno have support for (a) webcam(s)? Or are you using linux for
capturing things from the webcam?
On Feb 25, 2011 9:14 AM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote:
 Jason Dreisbach wrote:
 Hi all,

 Can anyone help shed some light in my search for a low power minimal
 plan 9 hardware setup to start experimenting with. Has anyone had
 success running plan 9 on a Fit PC (the only atom box we have access to)?


 Gumstix would be ideal, but their plan 9 support is a bit half baked
 right now. Wireless support would be a huge plus.

 We are trying to do a bit of research into robotic applications of plan
 9. The p9 filesystem protocol seems like a real neat method to acquire
 resources of nearby bots. Allowing for very minimal, modularized robot
 configurations.

 Any tips? Am I out of my mind?

 Thanks,

 Jason

 Jason,

 I am currently attempting a little ROV using some 9p for control, but I
 am using inferno hosted on linux. That might be the quicker way to get
 your 'bots speaking 9p. I am doing this because right off the bat I
 need a webcam. I also need to prototype this very quickly so mucking
 about in hardware drivers and OS nuances is not an option.
 Sounds like fun! I'm curious what you come up with!

 -Jack



Re: [9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

2011-02-25 Thread ron minnich
wireless support: se lucho's note about his almost-done wifi driver.
That said, you might want wireless usb with the atheros chip (6000
series?) that does most of the wireless stack. Charles knows more.

webcam: is this a usb webcam? USB support is getting better.

low power -- is an atom mobo low enough?

The interno + 9p approach is not a bad idea. In fact, inferno might be
ideal for what you are doing.

ron



Re: [9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

2011-02-25 Thread Jack Norton

Jacob Todd wrote:
Does inferno have support for (a) webcam(s)? Or are you using linux for 
capturing things from the webcam?


On Feb 25, 2011 9:14 AM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com 
mailto:j...@0x6a.com wrote:

  Jason Dreisbach wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Can anyone help shed some light in my search for a low power minimal
  plan 9 hardware setup to start experimenting with. Has anyone had
  success running plan 9 on a Fit PC (the only atom box we have access 
to)?

 
  Gumstix would be ideal, but their plan 9 support is a bit half baked
  right now. Wireless support would be a huge plus.
 
  We are trying to do a bit of research into robotic applications of plan
  9. The p9 filesystem protocol seems like a real neat method to acquire
  resources of nearby bots. Allowing for very minimal, modularized 
robot

  configurations.
 
  Any tips? Am I out of my mind?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason
 
  Jason,
 
  I am currently attempting a little ROV using some 9p for control, but I
  am using inferno hosted on linux. That might be the quicker way to get
  your 'bots speaking 9p. I am doing this because right off the bat I
  need a webcam. I also need to prototype this very quickly so mucking
  about in hardware drivers and OS nuances is not an option.
  Sounds like fun! I'm curious what you come up with!
 
  -Jack
 


It's a USB webcam (logitech POS is the model I believe :) ).  Right now 
I am leaving the webcam for last, so right now linux is providing the 
drivers and I am watching it 'quick and dirty' with a seperate xawtv 
window.  The webcam is my last step because it really is just outside 
the reach of my personal programing capabilities (I'm a physicist -- god 
help you if I ever have to write code for you...).  In all reality I may 
get as far as an ugly hack involving some host multimedia converters and 
file2chan, but that is optimistic at best right now.
Once the concept is limping along, I can then really attempt a native 
webcam of some sort.
In any event I've got the impression that inferno could be really cool 
in a robotics environment, hence the motivation.


-Jack