Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2010-01-19 Thread hiro
So how far did you get? I'm currently reading about that package
system and think we could send a 9vx package to the maintainer when
ready...
I'm also not sure yet about the best way of binding packages directly
into the filesystem instead of ftp getting them

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:30 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tiny Core Linux looks interesting. Played around a bit in a VM tonight
 and will be trying it on the ThinkPad tomorrow. I'm curious about your
 setup. I assume you're using 9vx directly for graphics, no more
 drawterm? You run within X?

 yes, because I don't think there is a vx32 implemention that uses
 devfb. Which is just
 as well, the devfb drawterm was nice but when it fails, well, you're
 in trouble.

 I'd like to have a cdrom that just boots up into tinycore and vx32.

 ron





Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-17 Thread Anthony Sorace
Tiny Core Linux looks interesting. Played around a bit in a VM tonight
and will be trying it on the ThinkPad tomorrow. I'm curious about your
setup. I assume you're using 9vx directly for graphics, no more
drawterm? You run within X?

My attempt tomorrow is going to be giving a GB or two to Linux and the
rest to fossil, trying to integrate the localfs and native ethernet
patches to 9vx, and booting off that. The combination does look like a
very nice starting point.



Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-17 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tiny Core Linux looks interesting. Played around a bit in a VM tonight
 and will be trying it on the ThinkPad tomorrow. I'm curious about your
 setup. I assume you're using 9vx directly for graphics, no more
 drawterm? You run within X?

yes, because I don't think there is a vx32 implemention that uses
devfb. Which is just
as well, the devfb drawterm was nice but when it fails, well, you're
in trouble.

I'd like to have a cdrom that just boots up into tinycore and vx32.

ron



[9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread Anthony Sorace
I recently got a relatively modern ThinkPad. I figured it might be a
good chance to play with something new, and THnX has always looked
interesting. I have Ron's stuff from August or so; is that still the
latest? Is there a better way to run Plan 9 in lguest, with as minimal
a Linux underneath as practical? The README is specific to running off
a USB stick; is there another set of instructions somewhere for
running off the HD?



Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread ron minnich
skip lguest.

What I'm looking at now is tinycore linux: tinycorelinux.org and vx32.
Much easier. Makes a nice terminal. I have to add some things to it,
it doesn't come w/wireless.

ron



Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik

On 03/16/09 06:01 PM, ron minnich wrote:

skip lguest.

What I'm looking at now is tinycore linux: tinycorelinux.org and vx32.
Much easier. Makes a nice terminal. I have to add some things to it,
it doesn't come w/wireless.
  
That is all fine for the terminal (I suppose you really mean running 
tinycorelinux.com
on bare metal and running 9vx on top of it) but shouldn't there also be 
a [para]virtualization

solution for Plan9?

You say 'skip lguest' -- that's fine. But what's the best alternative 
for running Plan9 server

on the same bare metal that needs to run something else?

Thanks,
Roman.



Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote:

 You say 'skip lguest' -- that's fine. But what's the best alternative for
 running Plan9 server
 on the same bare metal that needs to run something else?


OK, for that, lguest is great. I am thinking entirely in terms fo
supporting what THNX was for, i.e. a laptop terminal, and for that, I
think that vx32 is a better base.

ron



Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread lucio
 You say 'skip lguest' -- that's fine. But what's the best alternative 
 for running Plan9 server
 on the same bare metal that needs to run something else?

I find VMware ESX (server 3i) pretty robust, whereas VMware server
under Ubuntu makes Ubuntu somewhat more fragile than if I don't start
any virtual machines, keeping in mind that bits of VMware server start
up at boot time.  Ubuntu itself jams solid, which may be a memory
problem.

NetBSD runs on ESX at the same time as Plan 9 and it switches off
reproduceably pretty abruptly when I try to FTP the GNU directory from
gnu.org, I haven't had occasion to trigger anything in the same vein
for Plan 9.  I do confess that both virtual machines tend to be
underutilised and the NetBSD failure does not occur under normal
circumstances.

++L




Re: [9fans] THnX status?

2009-03-16 Thread erik quanstrom
 NetBSD runs on ESX at the same time as Plan 9 and it switches off
 reproduceably pretty abruptly when I try to FTP the GNU directory from
 gnu.org,

good to see the netbsd guys have taste!

- erik