Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Brian L. Stuart
 P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it
 natively on these puppies:
  http://www.sunspotworld.com/

That's a seriously cool idea.  I just discovered we
have a dev kit here at work.  I can't say for sure
whether the powers that be will approve of me spending
time working on an Inferno port, but I think I can at
least take a look in between anything else that comes
up.

Time to start playing...

BLS







Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Fernan Bolando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 That is very cool I am doing something similar ( I think ).
 In hugs (haskell interpreter) there are some things that relies on
 loadable modules. I created a plumber call and it launches a handler
 for some of those things.
 
 Now I can use libraries from p9p and 9vx without porting. I am
 guessing it would also work on a remote machine, meaning I can compile
 the handler on a super fast plan9 or a p9p machine and just mount the
 plumber and run my haskell code as usuall.

Cool :)
Let's me know if you've got something working (maybe even ported to p9p ?)
My functional programming experiences are some ages ago, but I think,
I should dig it out again ...


Would be even cool, if we someday have an distributed multi-language
grid environment :)

That's the point, where 9P/synthetic filesystems make *REALLY* fun.


cu
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Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Uriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Ever heard of Inferno? Or are you using java purely for the
 masochistic pleasure?

Actually, I like Java (the language, NOT the fat J2EE crap),
and a trimmed-down Java is also suited for small devices, eg.
can be partially done in hardware. (I'm not yet used to Limbo,
maybe I'll dive into it later).

The idea behind is having a *very small* jvm (eg. kvm or further
trimmed-down jamvm with only very few base classes) which runs on
virtually any device anywhere in the net and build a big grid out
of these devices, recycling unused resources on uncountable of 
bored machines around the world, from routers to big servers ;P


cu
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Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread ron minnich
so if you are using 9p and servers, where does java come in ? Why to
you care what language it is?

ron



Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Dec  1 12:10:13 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it
  natively on these puppies:
   http://www.sunspotworld.com/
 
 That's a seriously cool idea.  I just discovered we
 have a dev kit here at work.  I can't say for sure
 whether the powers that be will approve of me spending
 time working on an Inferno port, but I think I can at
 least take a look in between anything else that comes
 up.
 
 Time to start playing...
 
 BLS

$750 seems a tad overpriced.  even for two.
i may not have seen the cheep link, though.

- erik



Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-12-01 Thread blstuart
 On Mon Dec  1 12:10:13 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  P.S. Speaking of Inferno -- I have always wanted to run it
  natively on these puppies:
   http://www.sunspotworld.com/
 
 That's a seriously cool idea.  I just discovered we
 have a dev kit here at work.  I can't say for sure
 whether the powers that be will approve of me spending
 time working on an Inferno port, but I think I can at
 least take a look in between anything else that comes
 up.
 
 Time to start playing...
 
 BLS
 
 $750 seems a tad overpriced.  even for two.
 i may not have seen the cheep link, though.
 
 - erik

Yeah, I wouldn't be getting a set for myself.  But since we've
got a set at work, it's a chance to maybe get paid for doing
some Inferno work.

BLS




Re: [9fans] Grid computing architecture w/ 9P + Java ;-)

2008-11-30 Thread Fernan Bolando
On 12/1/08, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks,


 I'm currently playing around with some ideas for a new (or perhaps
 very old ? ;-o) computing architecture, based on 9P + Java.
 It's a bit of old Burroughs MF, a bit of Ambric and a bit ja Java ;-o

 The idea bind: have a bunch of tiny Java machines (not the whole
 JEE bloat, just a very small set of basic classes) which talk to
 each other through filesystems (of course via 9P ;-P).

 At the moment, I'm doing a massive trim-down of Jamvm+classpath,
 leaving in only what's needed for a small hello-world.

 Later, I'll create an minimalistic embedded firmware for small
 devices which then should run in an grid.


 If anyone's interested, just let me know.



Hi

That is very cool I am doing something similar ( I think ).
In hugs (haskell interpreter) there are some things that relies on
loadable modules. I created a plumber call and it launches a handler
for some of those things.

Now I can use libraries from p9p and 9vx without porting. I am
guessing it would also work on a remote machine, meaning I can compile
the handler on a super fast plan9 or a p9p machine and just mount the
plumber and run my haskell code as usuall.

This also means that any language that has file IO will be able to use
the handlers.

I am not sure if plumber was designed to do this, but it seems to work
on some of my simple arithmetic libraries.


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