Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 19:24 +0200, sascha wrote: > ATI is not absent in the HPC space, we are a part of it. Seeing that we have clocked out more than 2^60.7 bits from A5/1 on ATI hardware, I won't argue with that :-) f ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
There is a real chance that this will happen driven by the need to have plenty of disk accesses and the cheapest compute capable GPUs or a modest CPU can handle the compute load for a single table. But it is not high on the TODO list. One could stitch a fast solution where clients monitor some URL for lookup requests and report on findings in their table subset to some cgi. 20 lines of perl. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:19:05AM -0700, Doktor Jeep wrote: > > For those of us who have more old boards and CPUs laying about, what are the > chances of a distributed computing application? > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:54 +0200 > > From: sascha.kriss...@web.de > > To: a51@lists.reflextor.com > > Subject: Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU > > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:00:54PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media > > Ltd] wrote: > > > This might be a silly question but.. > > > > > > If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to detect > > > such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? > > > > > > > There is no obvious way to add some form of checksumming to the algorithm. > > The next best thing would be to compute every chain twice. Which is what > > i do during testing (and also with 2 different algos, one on the GPU and > > a reference on the CPU) and would be feasible if you cared for correctness. > > But then again even with a 1% error rate you would not do this for the > > rainbow tables, because the incorrect chains cannot lead to incorrect > > results and would only waste some space and some time during lookup when > > the lookup code works with them until they turn out not to produce > > a result. Then you would produce 1.01% more chains and live happily ever > > after. > > ___ > > A51 mailing list > > A51@lists.reflextor.com > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > _ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
Memory ECC is only available in fermi based teslas (C2xxx). ATI is not absent in the HPC space, we are a part of it. Also i trust 2 consumer grade cards working on the same result more than 1 tesla. (Given the fact that a tesla would need and error rate which is the square of the consumer grade cards error rate) The money you save in the shop can then pay your energy bill, but maybe not the manpower to adapt the software to simultaneous computation. > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 07:11:27PM +0200, Frank A. Stevenson wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 18:00 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > > wrote: > > > This might be a silly question but.. > > > > > > > > > If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to > > > detect such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? > > > > > > > > > > One of the big advantages with Tesla is the use of registered memory for > > the GPU. This significantly reduces the risk of a bad memory bit > > screwing up your calculations, and the hardware can let you know if such > > an error exists. ATI doesn't offer this feature on any of their boards, > > and that is pretty much the reason for them being absent from the HPC > > space, despite having better performance in relation to both price and > > power. > > > > f > > > > ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
For those of us who have more old boards and CPUs laying about, what are the chances of a distributed computing application? > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:54 +0200 > From: sascha.kriss...@web.de > To: a51@lists.reflextor.com > Subject: Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:00:54PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > wrote: > > This might be a silly question but.. > > > > If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to detect > > such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? > > > > There is no obvious way to add some form of checksumming to the algorithm. > The next best thing would be to compute every chain twice. Which is what > i do during testing (and also with 2 different algos, one on the GPU and > a reference on the CPU) and would be feasible if you cared for correctness. > But then again even with a 1% error rate you would not do this for the > rainbow tables, because the incorrect chains cannot lead to incorrect > results and would only waste some space and some time during lookup when > the lookup code works with them until they turn out not to produce > a result. Then you would produce 1.01% more chains and live happily ever > after. > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:00:54PM +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > This might be a silly question but.. > > If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to detect > such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? > There is no obvious way to add some form of checksumming to the algorithm. The next best thing would be to compute every chain twice. Which is what i do during testing (and also with 2 different algos, one on the GPU and a reference on the CPU) and would be feasible if you cared for correctness. But then again even with a 1% error rate you would not do this for the rainbow tables, because the incorrect chains cannot lead to incorrect results and would only waste some space and some time during lookup when the lookup code works with them until they turn out not to produce a result. Then you would produce 1.01% more chains and live happily ever after. ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 18:00 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: > This might be a silly question but.. > > > If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to > detect such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? > > One of the big advantages with Tesla is the use of registered memory for the GPU. This significantly reduces the risk of a bad memory bit screwing up your calculations, and the hardware can let you know if such an error exists. ATI doesn't offer this feature on any of their boards, and that is pretty much the reason for them being absent from the HPC space, despite having better performance in relation to both price and power. f ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
This might be a silly question but.. If there was a miscalculation due to hardware, would you be able to detect such an occurrence, and re-process that calc again? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:56 PM, sascha wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Lubomir Schmidt wrote: > > This Card ist OLD and known for a long time. It is already available > > since dec 2008. Main development is running on the ATI cards. Also an > > actual GTX480 ist much faster then the Tesla card that costs more then > > double! > > > > It's also not like you have miscalculations all over the place, given > the fact that reliability and chip hand selection is a selling point > for tesla. Infact also with 15% overclocking i haven't seen a single > error that can be attributed to hardware failure. > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > -- Cal Leeming Operational Security & Support Team *Out of Hours: *+44 (07534) 971120 | *Support Tickets: * supp...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk *Fax: *+44 (02476) 578987 | *Email: *cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. Registered company number 7143564 ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:53:48PM +0200, Lubomir Schmidt wrote: > This Card ist OLD and known for a long time. It is already available > since dec 2008. Main development is running on the ATI cards. Also an > actual GTX480 ist much faster then the Tesla card that costs more then > double! > It's also not like you have miscalculations all over the place, given the fact that reliability and chip hand selection is a selling point for tesla. Infact also with 15% overclocking i haven't seen a single error that can be attributed to hardware failure. ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
[A51] USRP1 or USRP2
Dear All, Which one should I purchase? When I compare USRP1 has 4 ADC while USRP2 has 2 with better sampling rate. USRP2 provides Gigabit interface also. However, which one can cover wider spectrum? How many channels can we listen and dump simultaneously with USRP1 and USRP2? Regards, Murat ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] Table distribution
Decentralization is the key to survival in asymmetric warfare. > From: philist...@gmail.com > To: a51@lists.reflextor.com > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:11:31 +0200 > Subject: Re: [A51] Table distribution > > I agree with Lubomir Schmidt. Usenet is not necessary.. There are > various free alternatives like Torrents, Private/University-Servers and > Wuala. Maybe it's best we use all three possibilities. > > But please, no solutions where you have to pay money for getting access > to the files. > > On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 14:21 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > wrote: > > Usenet is so cheap tho... it's like £5-10 for a month (check out > > Giganews)... I've used it for like 2-3 years now.. Perhaps it could be > > a joint effort... Usenet + Wuala + Torrent?? > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lubomir Schmidt > > wrote: > > Usenet costs money... i did not like to spend any money for > > just sharing data... > > > > What is also possible is Wuala. With one computer you can get > > 100GB > > free online storage. When we all make an a51 group, every one > > of us > > could share for free the data. > > > > I use wuala for linux distribution development(internal > > developer > > group) and share(no traffic limits) and it is great :) > > > > I also prefere the server from Axel with 1GB/s and 10TB > > storage :) > > > > please no usenet... > > > > 2010/7/25 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > > : > > > > > Usenet is a good idea :) > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dinos Pastos > > wrote: > > >> > > >> If it was to be uploaded, I suggest Usenet servers where > > the retention > > >> is massive and anonymous > > >> > > >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Lubomir Schmidt > > >> wrote: > > >> > And in germany i could get 2tb discs for about > > 122USD(94,50€) and an > > >> > external case for about 10USD > > >> > > > >> > Should we not just make torrents? I could upload at the > > moment with > > >> > ~100mbit. That would be the much cheaper and easy way. > > >> > > > >> > 2010/7/24 GeleGrodan : > > >> >> Those 2TB disks you speak of, are they internal or > > external? > > >> >> > > >> >> If you speak about external, I guess the price isnt > > better over here in > > >> >> Sweden: > > >> >> > > >> >> External 2TB - ca 182USD > > >> >> Internal 2TB - ca 142USD > > >> >> External case - 41USD (USB 2.0/eSATA) > > >> >> > > >> >> +Shipping > > >> >> > > >> >> Dont know what the shipping costs, what do you pay > > Peter? > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 20:54, Peter Stuge > > wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Frank A. Stevenson wrote: > > >> >>> > I have gotten several requests for having disks > > shipped, payed for > > >> >>> > with PayPal. I am not sure I really trust this > > company to not > > >> >>> > freeze the accounts if someone complains > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I think that's wise. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > "ext3 preformatted 2TB disks." I should be able to > > deliver these at > > >> >>> > cost for ~250 USD, this includes Norwegian sales tax > > (25%) which I > > >> >>> > haven't found a way to defray. But perhaps someone on > > the list could > > >> >>> > do better than this and set up shop in a country > > where overall costs > > >> >>> > are lower? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Since Norway is outside the EU you'll mostly be > > exporting, and > > >> >>> shouldn't charge sales tax. Buyers will likely have to > > pay import > > >> >>> duties. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > And ideally, quality packaging materials are readily > > available :-) > > >> >>> > (We have already suffer 1 unfortunate disk crash) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Suggest ship out by courier (I like UPS) and for > > packaging materials > > >> >>> see if the store can ship to you (or whoever does this) > > with some > > >> >>> extra packaging. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> //Peter > > >> >>> ___ > > >> >>> A51 mailing list > > >> >>> A51@lists.reflextor.com > > >> >>> > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > > >> >> A51 mailing list > > >> >> A51@lists.reflextor.com > > >> >> > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ___ > > >> > A51 mailing list > > >> > A51@lists.reflextor.com > > >> > > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > >> > > > >> ___ > > >> A51 mailing list > > >> A51@lists.reflextor.com > > >> > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cal Leeming > > > > > > Operational Security & Support Team > > > > > > Out of Hours: +44 (07534) 971120 | Support > > > Tickets: supp...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > > > Fax: +44 (02476) > > 578987 | Email: cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > > > > > > S
Re: [A51] Reporting in..
if someone has this please send :) dinopio .(@). gmail.com On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:24 PM, javier falbo wrote: > Yes, this is the main paper, but there are some extras and more information > concerning the algorythm. > It could be decoded in seconds in a "normal" PC computer. :) > The main problem is to have a hardware with bigg bandwith nowadays all > of them are militar equipment. > Javier > >> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:19:51 +0300 >> Subject: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. >> From: dino...@gmail.com >> To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com >> CC: sur...@stud.ntnu.no; pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com >> >> http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/013.pdf Kasumi whitepaper >> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, javier falbo >> wrote: >> > Yes Max. >> > Contact me in private to my email. >> > Javier >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:12:03 +0200 >> >> From: sur...@stud.ntnu.no >> >> To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com >> >> CC: pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com >> >> Subject: Re: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. >> >> >> >> Quoting javier falbo : >> >> >> >> > In order to monitor more data channel simultaneosly, and prepare the >> >> > next step which is the 3g (kasumi), which is not so difficult as the >> >> > algorythm could be decoded very fast with last Asiacrypt paper. >> >> >> >> Do you have a link to this paper by any chance? >> >> I managed to miss it somehow :( >> >> >> >> kind regards, >> >> Max. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Porque tu vida necesita más espacio y comodidad. Muy pronto descubrí un >> > nuevo Hotmail. Ver más >> > ___ >> > A51 mailing list >> > A51@lists.reflextor.com >> > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 >> > >> > > > > Descubrí un nuevo Hotmail: con más herramientas para una vida más práctica. > Muy pronto. Ver más ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] Reporting in..
Yes, this is the main paper, but there are some extras and more information concerning the algorythm. It could be decoded in seconds in a "normal" PC computer. :) The main problem is to have a hardware with bigg bandwith nowadays all of them are militar equipment. Javier > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:19:51 +0300 > Subject: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. > From: dino...@gmail.com > To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com > CC: sur...@stud.ntnu.no; pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com > > http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/013.pdf Kasumi whitepaper > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, javier falbo > wrote: > > Yes Max. > > Contact me in private to my email. > > Javier > > > >> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:12:03 +0200 > >> From: sur...@stud.ntnu.no > >> To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com > >> CC: pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com > >> Subject: Re: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. > >> > >> Quoting javier falbo : > >> > >> > In order to monitor more data channel simultaneosly, and prepare the > >> > next step which is the 3g (kasumi), which is not so difficult as the > >> > algorythm could be decoded very fast with last Asiacrypt paper. > >> > >> Do you have a link to this paper by any chance? > >> I managed to miss it somehow :( > >> > >> kind regards, > >> Max. > >> > >> > > > > > > Porque tu vida necesita más espacio y comodidad. Muy pronto descubrí un > > nuevo Hotmail. Ver más > > ___ > > A51 mailing list > > A51@lists.reflextor.com > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > > > _ En Hotmail estamos reinventando un nuevo correo. Preparate para lo que se viene. Ver más http://www.nuevohotmail.com___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] Reporting in..
http://eprint.iacr.org/2010/013.pdf Kasumi whitepaper On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, javier falbo wrote: > Yes Max. > Contact me in private to my email. > Javier > >> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:12:03 +0200 >> From: sur...@stud.ntnu.no >> To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com >> CC: pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com >> Subject: Re: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. >> >> Quoting javier falbo : >> >> > In order to monitor more data channel simultaneosly, and prepare the >> > next step which is the 3g (kasumi), which is not so difficult as the >> > algorythm could be decoded very fast with last Asiacrypt paper. >> >> Do you have a link to this paper by any chance? >> I managed to miss it somehow :( >> >> kind regards, >> Max. >> >> > > > Porque tu vida necesita más espacio y comodidad. Muy pronto descubrí un > nuevo Hotmail. Ver más > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] Reporting in..
Yes Max. Contact me in private to my email. Javier > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:12:03 +0200 > From: sur...@stud.ntnu.no > To: javier_fa...@hotmail.com > CC: pe...@stuge.se; a51@lists.reflextor.com > Subject: Re: Re: [A51] Reporting in.. > > Quoting javier falbo : > > > In order to monitor more data channel simultaneosly, and prepare the > > next step which is the 3g (kasumi), which is not so difficult as the > > algorythm could be decoded very fast with last Asiacrypt paper. > > Do you have a link to this paper by any chance? > I managed to miss it somehow :( > > kind regards, > Max. > > _ Pronto descubrirás un nuevo Hotmail. Nos estamos reinventando. Preparate para lo que se viene. http://www.nuevohotmail.com___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
Besides, ATI 5970 reaches 4.64 TERAFLOPS, while NVIDIA Telisa C1060 "only" reaches 933 GIGAFLOPS ;) C1070 reaches 4 TERAFLOPS, but for those money I bet you can buy enough ATI 5970 too break 1 PETAFLOP ;) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 14:53, Lubomir Schmidt < gentoo.lubo...@googlemail.com> wrote: > This Card ist OLD and known for a long time. It is already available > since dec 2008. Main development is running on the ATI cards. Also an > actual GTX480 ist much faster then the Tesla card that costs more then > double! > > 2010/7/26 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] > : > > http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i20995 > > Anyone seen this? Looks quite beefy.. > > > > -- > > > > Cal Leeming > > > > Operational Security & Support Team > > > > Out of Hours: +44 (07534) 971120 | Support > > Tickets: supp...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > > Fax: +44 (02476) 578987 | Email: cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > > > > Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. > > Registered company number 7143564 > > > > ___ > > A51 mailing list > > A51@lists.reflextor.com > > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > > > > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
This Card ist OLD and known for a long time. It is already available since dec 2008. Main development is running on the ATI cards. Also an actual GTX480 ist much faster then the Tesla card that costs more then double! 2010/7/26 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] : > http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i20995 > Anyone seen this? Looks quite beefy.. > > -- > > Cal Leeming > > Operational Security & Support Team > > Out of Hours: +44 (07534) 971120 | Support > Tickets: supp...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > Fax: +44 (02476) 578987 | Email: cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk > > Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. > Registered company number 7143564 > > ___ > A51 mailing list > A51@lists.reflextor.com > http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51 > > ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
[A51] NVIDIA Tesla C1060 GPGPU
http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i20995 Anyone seen this? Looks quite beefy.. -- Cal Leeming Operational Security & Support Team *Out of Hours: *+44 (07534) 971120 | *Support Tickets: * supp...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk *Fax: *+44 (02476) 578987 | *Email: *cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. Registered company number 7143564 ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
Re: [A51] Reporting in..
Quoting javier falbo : > In order to monitor more data channel simultaneosly, and prepare the > next step which is the 3g (kasumi), which is not so difficult as the > algorythm could be decoded very fast with last Asiacrypt paper. Do you have a link to this paper by any chance? I managed to miss it somehow :( kind regards, Max. ___ A51 mailing list A51@lists.reflextor.com http://lists.lists.reflextor.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/a51
