RE: [abcusers] problem downloading .ABC files

2000-09-19 Thread Jim Vint

Another approach, if it is Netscape, is to hold down the shift key while 
you click on the link to the file. The save file dialog should appear.

Jim Vint

> That is because, probably on the server side, the file is being sent as
> "mime/txt" which your browser recognizes as something it can display so it
> does.
> 
> Just right click on the link, and select "save target as..." from the
> resulting menu.
> 
> John A.
> 
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:35 PM, Alberto Duran 
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > great. For quite some months now I have this very
> > irritating problem; when I visit a site ,that has abc
> > files, and when I click on something like-
> > "Reels 1-100" instead of getting the download window
> > ,that asks where to save the file,all I get is the
> > printed text of the abc tunes! AGH!
> > Nothing I do seems to work. I've tried everything
> > but to no avail.
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Re: [abcusers] Software for extracting chords

2000-09-19 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman

I asked:
>> Anyone have a good utility for extracting chords from abc? Nothing fancy.

Frank Nordberg responded:
>  I suppose you could do that with grep, but there are lots of people here
>that knows more than me about that.
>  This could be a nice tool for making basic bass parts for tunes too, btw.

OK grep experts! Now's your chance to post the elegant patterns and
find-and-replace statements.

James Allwright responded:
>I do not have such a utility, but if you want one and are prepared to do
>a bit of C coding, a good bet might be to modify abc2abc to do this.

This would be very nice, indeed. (In essence, the major technical work of
chord extraction is already done.)
   However, it would _also_ be useful to have something that just did it in
ascii, so one could use the output pretty directly for purposes than
printout.

--
About my chords for Scatter the Mud, Frank Nordberg asked:

>Are you sure the second bar in line 2 shouldn't be G?
>Like this:
>
>X:1
>T: Scatter the Mud
>M: 6/8
>K: ADor
>Am G | Am | Am Em | G | Am G | Am | Em | G Am :|
>Am G | -  | Am Em | G | Am G | -  | Em | G Am :|

Frank is right.

Robert Bley-Vroman
Honolulu


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RE: [abcusers] problem downloading .ABC files

2000-09-19 Thread John Atchley

That is because, probably on the server side, the file is being sent as 
"mime/txt" which your browser recognizes as something it can display so it 
does.

Just right click on the link, and select "save target as..." from the 
resulting menu.

John A.

On Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:35 PM, Alberto Duran 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> great. For quite some months now I have this very
> irritating problem; when I visit a site ,that has abc
> files, and when I click on something like-
> "Reels 1-100" instead of getting the download window
> ,that asks where to save the file,all I get is the
> printed text of the abc tunes! AGH!
> Nothing I do seems to work. I've tried everything
> but to no avail.

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[abcusers] problem downloading .ABC files

2000-09-19 Thread Alberto Duran

Hey all!

I'm new to this list and have noticed that you
contributers are quite the experts on editing abc
so PLEASE help me if you can!
About a year ago I downloaded abc2win and was able
to download all kinds of wonderful abc files and 
print or play them on the various other programs
that I installed (like Melody Assistant), life was
great. For quite some months now I have this very
irritating problem; when I visit a site ,that has abc
files, and when I click on something like- 
"Reels 1-100" instead of getting the download window
,that asks where to save the file,all I get is the
printed text of the abc tunes! AGH!
Nothing I do seems to work. I've tried everything
but to no avail.
On his web site,Henrik Norbeck,explains how to
"set up Netscape to read .abc files correctly".
Well and good that is for those lucky souls with 
Netscape but I'm still unable to simply download
any abc files.
Will anyone please help me! It's driving me mad!
Thanks. Any help is greatly appreciated!

   Sincerely,
 Alberto Duran


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Re: [abcusers] Software for extracting chords

2000-09-19 Thread Atte Andre Jensen

I'd be more than happy to write a small script for this! That is if you're
running Linux or Unix :)

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Robert Bley-Vroman wrote:

> Anyone have a good utility for extracting chords from abc? Nothing fancy.
> The output could look more-or-less like abc, except that nothing remains in
> the tune except the barlines and the chords, and the quotation marks are
> removed from the chords.
> 
> If a bar has no chords written in, you could put in something like "-" as a
> placeholder. The result would look something like this:
> 
> X:1
> T: Scatter the Mud
> M: 6/8
> K: ADor
>  Am G | Am | Am Em | G | Am G | Am | Em | G Am :|
>  Am G | Am | Am Em | G | Am G | -  | Em | G Am :|
> 
> It'd also be nice to have sensible linebreaks--at least a system which
> would handle the typical eight-bar sections in of trad tunes.
> 
> Things can get complex, of course, but let's assume the usual jig/reel
> repertory, with usually one, two, or maybe three chords per bar. And, for
> more than two chords per bar, I'm not really worried about showing just
> where they fit. This is for a kind of rough-and-ready collection of chord
> charts for sessions/gigs. The performer is assumed to be relatively
> intelligent.
> 
> Robert Bley-Vroman
> Honolulu
> 
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Atte André Jensen

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Re: [abcusers] Software for extracting chords

2000-09-19 Thread Anselm Lingnau

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Nordberg  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suppose you could do that with grep, but there are lots of people here
> that knows more than me about that.

Here's a little Perl program that may go some distance towards what
Robert wants:

--- cut here ---
#!/usr/bin/perl
# abc2chord.pl
# 19 Sep 2000 Anselm Lingnau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

use Getopt::Long;

$keep = "XTMK";

GetOptions("keep=s" => \$keep);

while (<>) {
# keep only header lines listed on --keep=... option
if (($header) = /^([A-Z]):/) {
print if $header =~ /[$keep]/o;
next;
}
$_ .= <> while /\\$/;   # merge continued lines
$_ = join(' ', /(?:"(.*?)")|(:?\|(?:\||:|\[\d)?)/g); # extract chords &c.
s/^ *//; s/ +/ /g;  # remove extraneous whitespace
s/\| \|/| - |/g;# add placeholders for no-chord bars
print $_, "\n";
}
--- cut here ---

The most conspicuous omission is that it doesn't »optimize« alternate
endings that contain the same chords. (This is left to the reader as an
exercise).

Here's the output from Frank's source:

  ; perl ./abc2chord.pl --keep XTMKR ~/Music/ScatterTheMud.abc
  X:1
  T:Scatter the Mud
  R:Jig
  M:6/8
  K:ADor
  Am G | Am Em | Am | G | Am | Am | Em |[1 G Am :|[2 G Am ||
  |: Am G | G | Am Em | G | Am G | G | Em |[1 G Am :|[2 G Am |

Anselm
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ends by deceiving others. That is what the world calls a romance.
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Re: [abcusers] Slightly Off Topic: Publishing Sheet music on the Internet

2000-09-19 Thread Laurie Griffiths

Lewis Jones said "... I find abc great for dance tunes, but less
satisfactory for folk songs.  If I am wrong about this (as I hope I am)
please let me know how and why."

I can't speak for all of ABC (in fact anybody who tries to will probably get
shot down!).  As far as Muse is concerned, my own bias shows through - I am
an instrumentalist in a band and a guitarist, so it has support for harmony
parts and tablature, but the lyrics support, although it exists is weak.
(In fact it's very close to the top of the list of things to overhaul - at
the moment I'm trying to crank up the tab support another notch).

My personal assessment of Muse is that it's a very good all-round package,
in that it is exceptionally easy to use (lots of people have told me this),
it plays, prints, transposes etc. etc.  BUT its lyrics support is poor
(especially from an ABC point of view) and in any one area it's probably
possible to find another package that does better.  As far as price is
concerned, it's cheap but not free; several other packages are free.

Given that for every band you find there are probably about twelve zillion
singer-songwriters who want lyrics, Muse is a commercial disaster, clearly
not targeted where the money is!

Laurie Griffiths
http://www.musements.co.uk/muse
where you will find music notation software for PCs.

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Re: [abcusers] Slightly Off Topic: Publishing Sheet music on the Internet

2000-09-19 Thread Laura Conrad

> "Lewis" == Lewis Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lewis> 2.  My attempts to so publish.  For these go to

Lewis> http://www.geocities.com/ferretpublications/

When I publish my ABC stuff, I always include the ABC, as well as the
MIDI and the PDF.  It doesn't use a significant amount of space,
compared to the pdf, and it gives people access to the "source", in
case they want to make different editorial decisions than I do, or
print it in a different key, or translate the words to a different
language, or anything.


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(617) 661-8097  fax: (801) 365-6574 
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Re: [abcusers] Software for extracting chords

2000-09-19 Thread James Allwright

On Mon 18 Sep 2000 at 05:18PM -1000, Robert Bley-Vroman wrote:
> Anyone have a good utility for extracting chords from abc? Nothing fancy.
> The output could look more-or-less like abc, except that nothing remains in
> the tune except the barlines and the chords, and the quotation marks are
> removed from the chords.
> 

I do not have such a utility, but if you want one and are prepared to do
a bit of C coding, a good bet might be to modify abc2abc to do this.

James Allwright

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Re: [abcusers] Slightly Off Topic: Publishing Sheet music on the Internet

2000-09-19 Thread James Allwright

On Tue 19 Sep 2000 at 12:05AM +0100, Lewis Jones wrote:
> 
> I would be grateful for the views which any of you
> might have on:
> 
> 2.  My attempts to so publish.  For these go to
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/ferretpublications/
> 

I had a look at these and there seems to be a lot of
spurious white space around the notes and the clef
symbol. Apart from that they look OK. What package
are you using to do the typesetting ? Have you tried
other packages ?

James Allwright
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Re: [abcusers] Software for extracting chords

2000-09-19 Thread Frank Nordberg



Robert Bley-Vroman wrote:
> 
> Anyone have a good utility for extracting chords from abc? Nothing fancy.

I suppose you could do that with grep, but there are lots of people here
that knows more than me about that.

This could be a nice tool for making basic bass parts for tunes too, btw.


> The result would look something like this:

Are you sure the second bar in line 2 shouldn't be G? 
Like this:

X:1
T: Scatter the Mud
M: 6/8
K: ADor
Am G | Am | Am Em | G | Am G | Am | Em | G Am :|
Am G | -  | Am Em | G | Am G | -  | Em | G Am :|

Or - to include the whole tune:

X:1
T:Scatter the Mud
R:Jig
Z:Transcribed by Frank Nordberg
S:Based on various versions posted on Internet, mainly a transcription
by John Walsh
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:ADor
"Am"eAA "G"BAA|"Am"eAA "Em"ABd|"Am"eAA BAB|"G"dBG GBd|\
"Am"eAA BAA|"Am"eAA AGE|"Em"GAB d2e|[1"G"dBA "Am"ABd:|[2"G"dBA "Am"A3||
|:"Am"aba "G"g2e|"G"dBG GBd|"Am"aba "Em"g2e|"G"dBd e3|\
"Am"aba "G"g2e|"G"dBG AGE|"Em"GAB d2e|[1"G"dBA "Am"ABd:|[2"G"dBA "Am"A3|]



>
> The performer is assumed to be relatively intelligent.

Don't bet on that ;)


Frank Nordberg
Bodø

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[abcusers] the abcusers tune archive again

2000-09-19 Thread Frank Nordberg

The new abcusers tune archive is now working.

Unlike the old one who only had some really basic listings, you can now
view the tunes sorted
  alphabetically
  by composer
  by nationality
  by category
  by contributor and
  by year posted

The URL is:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcusers/index.html

Anybody who may have linked directly to the ABC files should note that
the names have been changed. They can now be found at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcusers/1998.abc
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcusers/1999.abc
and:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcusers/2000.abc


Frank
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