Re: [abcusers] Help!

2001-01-08 Thread Frank Nordberg

You did send this to Laurie personally too, didn't you?


Frank

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Laurie Griffiths wrote:
 
  Someone please help me.
 
  When I went off sailing I sent something to the list machine to tell it
  to stop sending me mail.  It was off the form
 
  SET abcusers NOMAIL
 
  and it had to be sent, not to the list itself, but to the machine that runs
  the list.
  Well it worked!  So I need now to send (I think)
 
  SET abcusers MAIL
 
  to the same place.  Alas, I find I have no trace of it.
 
  WHERE DO I SEND IT?
 
  I tried aiming my browser at
  http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
  like it said on the end of every message and clicking on the subscribe
  button, but that didn't work.  I presume it happily notes that I am
  subscribed and is continuing to send me NOMAIL!
 
  DO NOT reply to the list - I won't see it!!  reply to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (I realise and accept that I might get 600 replies)
 
  Laurie
 
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[abcusers] the Dead ABC Scrolls

2001-01-08 Thread Jack Campin

 What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-)

There seems an obvious musical interpretation of the apocryphal Gospel
of Thomas (from the Nag Hammadi collection):

They said to Him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the Kingdom?"
Jesus said to them,

Original  Modern version
  ==

"When you make the two one,   You put your right arm in,
and when you make the
inside like the outside   your right arm out, 
and the outside like the inside,
  Your right arm in,
and the above like the below, and you shake it all about
and when you make the male and
the female one and the same,  You do the hokey cokey and your turn about
so that the male not be male
nor the female female;That's what it's all about.

[Jesus left a few verses out here]

and when you fashion eyes You put your whole self in,
in the place of an eye,   your whole self out,
and a hand in place of a hand,Your whole self in,
and a foot in place of a foot,and you shake it all about
and a likeness in
place of a likeness;  You do the hokey cokey and your turn about
then will you enter
[the Kingdom]."   That's what it's all about.

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Re: [abcusers] WWW music notation formats (was: Why XML is a bad idea...)

2001-01-08 Thread Laura Conrad

 "Frank" == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Frank John Chambers wrote:
 
 Meanwhile, closer to the previous topic:  There are a number of music
 formats  used  by the commercial packages, such as Finale.  Are there
 very many Finale files online?

Frank Not really. The only really important collection of Finale
Frank files is Oliver's:
Frank http://chemistry.csudh.edu/oliver/clarmusi.htm and all the
Frank pieces there are also available in PDF format now.  Even
Frank the Finale Public Domain Library:
Frank ftp://ftp.shsu.edu/pub/finale/ tends to include PDFs GIFs
Frank and Midis created by Finale rather than straight Finale
Frank files. There are a few ETF files here and there, though.


There are some at http://www.freenote.org, which I know I've looked at 
in the past, but my browser can't seem to find the site now.

The chief developer of lilypond threw together a etf to lilypond
converter one Sunday afternoon. I tried it on some etf's Frank sent me
and it still needed a lot of work.  But the parser would be a start
(it's in python) if someone wanted to look at etf to ABC.


-- 
Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.laymusic.org : Putting live music back in the living room.



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Re: [abcusers] the Dead ABC Scrolls

2001-01-08 Thread Phil Taylor

 What do the Dead Sea Scrolls sound like in abc?? :-)

There seems an obvious musical interpretation of the apocryphal Gospel
of Thomas (from the Nag Hammadi collection):


The Discourse on the Eighth and the Ninth would seem to offer more
musical cues:

"Lord, grant us a wisdom from your power that reaches us, so that we may
describe to ourselves the vision of the eighth and the ninth. We have
already advanced to the seventh, since we are pious and walk in your law."

"What is the way to sing a hymn through it?"
(silence)
"Have you become such that you cannot be spoken to?"

"I am silent, my father. I want to sing a hymn to you while I am silent."
"Then sing it, for I am Mind."

What he had finished praising, he shouted, "Father Trismegistus! What shall
I say? We have received this light. And I myself see this same vision in
you. And I see the eighth, and the souls that are in it, and the angels
singing a hymn to the ninth and its powers. And I see him who has the power
of them all, creating those that are in the spirit."

"It is advantageous from now on, that we keep silence in a reverent
posture. Do not speak about the vision from now on. It is proper to sing a
hymn to the father until the day to quit (the) body."

"What you sing, my father, I too want to sing."
"I am singing a hymn within myself. While you rest yourself, be active in
praise. For you have found what you seek."

"But is it proper, my father, that I praise because I am filled in my heart?"
"What is proper is your praise that you will sing to God, so that it might
be written in this imperishable book."

"I will offer up the praise in my heart, as I pray to the end of the
universe and the beginning of the beginning, to the object of man's quest,
the immortal discovery, the begetter of light and truth, the sower of
reason, the love of immortal life. No hidden word will be able to speak
about you, Lord. Therefore, my mind wants to sing a hymn to you daily. I am
the instrument of your spirit; Mind is your plectrum. And your counsel
plucks me. I see myself! I have received power from you. For your love has
reached us."
"Right, my son."

"Grace! After these things, I give thanks by singing a hymn to you. For I
have received life from you, when you made me wise. I praise you. I call
your name that is hidden within me:

a o ee o eee ooo iii  o o uu oo o o oo.

You are the one who exists with the spirit. I sing a hymn to you reverently."
-
It's clearly in a pentatonic scale, since it uses only the five vowels.
Clearly it must use the seventh, octave and ninth, since those get
mentioned prominently in the text.  Add the tonic and fifth (since it's
hard to write any tune without those) and we're in business.

How about this:

o = C
u = G
e = Bb
a = c
i = d

X:1
T: The Name of God
C: Hermes Trismegistus
M:none
K: C
c C _B2 C B3 d3 C4 C5 C5 G6 C2 C9 C9 C2 |

Phil Taylor



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Re: [abcusers] WWW music notation formats (was: Why XML is a bad idea...)

2001-01-08 Thread Bob Archer

At 09:46 PM 06-01-01 UTC, John Chambers wrote:

 So far, ABC seems to be the only emailable music notation.

Not true. Eric Foxley's notation used for the Nottingham Music Database is
available at:

http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~ef/ef/music/doc/music.doc.html

I've been using it as an email notation for several years, and in some
works better than abc. Because it's less dependent on white space for
special meanings it tends to get less affected by line wrap problems. I
like it a lot, and I think that combining the best features of it with the
best features of ABC would lead to a wonderfully useful language.

Bob


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Re: [abcusers] WWW music notation formats (was: Why XML is a bad idea...)

2001-01-08 Thread Frank Nordberg



Laura Conrad wrote:
 
 The chief developer of lilypond threw together a etf to lilypond
 converter one Sunday afternoon. I tried it on some etf's Frank sent me
 and it still needed a lot of work.  But the parser would be a start
 (it's in python) if someone wanted to look at etf to ABC.


More info about the etf format at:

http://www.s-line.de/homepages/gerd_castan/compmus/notationformats_e.html#ETF



Frank Nordberg
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