[abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
After I posted this, I got a request off-list for the source of this
arrangement, and I have since discovered that it was done by
Composer/Arranger John Ciaglia, who has done lots of Flute, Piccolo and
Fife stuff, mostly for Fife and Drum Corps in the New England area. So
know you know, too.
-Chris
P.S. - Added this info to the C: header below.
Christopher Myers wrote:
I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if
this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I do,
and it comes out quite nice IMHO:
X:9
T:McLeod's Reel
C:Arr. by John Ciaglia
M:2/4
L:1/16
%%staves [1 2]
U:M=!tenuto!
K:G
V:1
|:BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|A2{B}AG AcBA|
.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2d2|e2f2 edef|gedB A2::
BA|GABc dBGA|BcBA BcBA|GABc dBGB|A2{B}AG AcBA|
GABc dBGA|BcBA B2d2|e2f2 edef|gedB A2:|
V:2
|:BA|GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2BA|GDGB c2ce|dcAF D2FA|
GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2B2|c2A2 c2c2|B2G2 F2::
D2|B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 B2D2|B2G2 BGD2|dcAD F2c2|
B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 gdB2|c2G2 c2c2|B2G2 F2:|
I've found that the first voice determines how everything lines up in
the output. If you screw up in the second voice, as far as measure
lengths or line lengths, Voice 1 is the master, and abcm2ps tries to
do the best it can, often with surprising ugly results.
Atte's abc renderer (http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php) does a
very nice job with this (obviously he uses abcm2ps) whereas the one on
concertina.net (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html) doesn't
look very nice.
Again, I dunno if my abc is standard, but it makes pretty output, which
is my goal anyway.
-Chris
Jeff Bigler wrote:
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:20:54 -0500
From: Christopher Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I prefer abcm2ps, as it allows me more control of the output (IMHO).
On the subject of abcm2ps, can anyone here tell me how to make it output
two voices onto separate staves? abc2ps does this with the following
command:
%%staves [(1 2)]
but even after reading the source code for abcm2ps I haven't found
anything similar. Am I just missing this, or is there in fact no way to
do it?
Jeff
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[abcusers] Adding PostScript fonts?
oups, it seems I forget to post this one after typing it... If you're using ghostscript... you put in /fonts/ your new fonts (ex : Hansagotisch.pfb, maybe there are also other definitions, I can't remember, such as Hansagotisch.afm, Hansagotisch.inf Hansagotisch.pfm but they're probably not all necessary) then, in /lib/ you edit Fontmap.GS such : in section % Actual fonts you add : /HansaGotisch (Hansagotisch.pfb) ; /AlteSchwabacher(AlteSchwabacher.pfb) ; /AlteSchwabacherDemi(AlteSchwabacherDemi.pfb) ; /AlteSchwabacherShadow (AlteSchwabacherShadow.pfb) ; and you can also add a section for % Aliases ex : /AlteSchwabacher-Bold /AlteSchwabacherDemi; /AlteSchwabacher-Italic /AlteSchwabacher; /AlteSchwabacher-Bold-Italic/AlteSchwabacherDemi; etc. then you can use the alias name with Abcm2ps in your abc file ex : %%textfont AlteSchwabacher-Bold 15 %%vskip 0.5cm %%center F r a u N a c h t i g a l l %%center Volkslieder vom 12. Jahrhundert bis zur Gegenwart %%textfont AlteSchwabacher 12 %%vskip 0.5cm %%center Herausgegeben %%center von %%center Carl Reyß und Fritz Spieser If you want to have a look to what you can get with this : http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/nachtigl.pdf you'll get all the sources in the http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/ directory I even used some celtic fonts for http://anamnese.online.fr/abc/celtia.pdf Hope that help. I haven't processed new files for long, so I can't remember all. Anyway, if you can't make it work, you can email me. I remember it worked fine for some fonts, but I had pb with some others (especially Garamond). ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Adding PostScript fonts?
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Forgeot Eric wrote: oups, it seems I forget to post this one after typing it... If you're using ghostscript... you put in /fonts/ your new fonts (ex : Hansagotisch.pfb, maybe there are also other definitions, I wow, that looks GREAT! BTW, it's amazing how you guessed the type of font I meant to install. Thank you very much, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure
if this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what
I do, and it comes out quite nice IMHO:
X:9
T:McLeod's Reel
C:Arr. by John Ciaglia
M:2/4
L:1/16
%%staves [1 2]
U:M=!tenuto!
Doesn't work in BarFly - that redefinition of M isn't permitted as
it doesn't know what !tenuto! is (and hopefully never will do).
This does work, albeit it's only half a solution as BarFly has no
way of playing the tenuto:
X:1
T:McLeod's Reel
C:Arr. by John Ciaglia
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:G
[V:1] BA|.G2^_g2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2^_g2 edeg|A2{B}AG AcBA|
[V:2] BA| GDGB c2ce|dBGED2BA| GDGB c2ce|dcAFD2FA|
%
[V:1].G2^_g2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2d2| e3 f edef|gedBA2 :|
[V:2] GDGB c2ce|dBGED2B2| c3 A c2c2|B2G2F2 :|
%
[V:1] BA| GABc dBGA|BcBABcBA| GABc dBGB|A2{B}AG AcBA|
[V:2] D2| B2G2 BGD2|G2d2B2D2| B2G2 BGD2|dcADF2c2|
%
[V:1] GABc dBGA|BcBAB2d2| e3 f edef|gedBA2 :|
[V:2] B2G2 BGD2|G2d2gdB2| c3 G c2c2|B2G2F2 :|
I would guess that'll work reasonably well for abcm2ps too.
The arrangement sounds a bit saccharine to me; I'd prefer something
like this - based on the Scottish version, in A, but still for two
flutes:
X:2
T:Mrs McLeod of Raasay
M:C|
L:1/8
K:A Mixolydian
[V:1] A2a2 fefa|c2cB c2cB|A2a2 fefa|B2BA BdcB |
[V:2] E4 AcAc|A4 E4 |E4 AcAc|G2E2 G2AG |
%
[V:1] A2a2 fefa|c2cB c2ce|f2fe f2ef|afec B2cB:|
[V:2] E4 AcAc|A4 E4 |D3 E D2ED|D2A2 E3 D:|
%
[V:1] AAcd ecAB|eccB c2cB|A2cA eAcA|B2BA BdcB |
[V:2] EAAB AEEG|AEEG A3 G|EAAE EAAE|G2E2 G2AG |
%
[V:1] AAcd ecAB|eccB c2ce|f2fe f2ef|afec B2cB:|
[V:2] EAAB AEEG|AEEG A3 B|D3 E D2ED|D2A2 E3 D:|
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Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
Jack Campin wrote: U:M=!tenuto! Doesn't work in BarFly - that redefinition of M isn't permitted as it doesn't know what !tenuto! is (and hopefully never will do). Sorry about that. My only intention with the given abc is that it would be used in abcm2ps, since that's what I use. I don't use barfly, and this topic came up as a result of abc in web pages, for which you would have to use one of the shell-based tools (such as abcm2ps or any other clone) in order to generate stuff on the fly (or can Barfly actually do that too?). The tenuto is only there as a friendly reminder to our fifers that it is not appropriate to breathe there. Fifer's tend to whack those high notes painfully. ;-) This does work, albeit it's only half a solution as BarFly has no way of playing the tenuto: . . . The arrangement sounds a bit saccharine to me; To each his own I guess. It's the first and only version I know (before seeing yours below), and I like it a lot. I'd prefer something like this - based on the Scottish version, in A, but still for two flutes: X:2 T:Mrs McLeod of Raasay M:C| L:1/8 K:A Mixolydian, etc . . . I kinda like that version as well. It has a whole different feel to it than ours - especially the B section. Perhaps the version we use was written for my Corps' specific sound and playing style. You gotta hear the Ciaglia version played by about 10 fifes in our rehearsal space. It's to die for. Cheers, Chris - Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760 http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack * food intolerance data recipes, Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files, and my CD-ROM Embro, Embro. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
Jack Campin wrote: U:M=!tenuto! Doesn't work in BarFly - that redefinition of M isn't permitted as it doesn't know what !tenuto! is (and hopefully never will do). What's the problem? !tenuto! conforms well to the proposed standard. Actually, BarFly should simply ignore anything between !! that it does not understand, because this makes the abc standard esay to extend. Sometime in the future someone might come up with the bright idea that !asdf! should mean something too. BTW, how long is this new standard going to be only proposed? Can we get along to deciding something now, for #%/=+#% sake! Otherwise we will land where HTML is (Microsoft standard, Netscape standard). Henrik Norbeck, Stockholm, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swipnet.se/hnorbeck/ My home page http://home.swipnet.se/hnorbeck/abcmus/ AbcMus player program http://home.swipnet.se/hnorbeck/abc.htm 1600 ABC tunes http://surf.to/blackthorn Irish trad music band http://www.rfod.se/folklink/ Links to Swedish music To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
Henrik Norbeck wrote: Jack Campin wrote: U:M=!tenuto! Doesn't work in BarFly - that redefinition of M isn't permitted as it doesn't know what !tenuto! is (and hopefully never will do). What's the problem? !tenuto! conforms well to the proposed standard. Actually, BarFly should simply ignore anything between !! that it does not understand, because this makes the abc standard esay to extend. Sometime in the future someone might come up with the bright idea that !asdf! should mean something too. BarFly had a system of redefinable symbols using the U: field, and a system of macros two years before John Atchley wrote the draft standard. Unfortunately he wrote his proposals, and persuaded Chris to put them up on the abc home page without taking the trouble to see what the existing programs did. When he wrote that section of his standard, he confused and conflated redefinable symbols and macros (can anybody apart from BarFly users actually understand the difference?). He also introduced the use of the exclamation mark delimiter, which is a disaster, both for the readability of abc and because it conflicts with all the old abc2win files which use this character for a totally different purpose. BTW, how long is this new standard going to be only proposed? Can we get along to deciding something now, for #%/=+#% sake! Otherwise we will land where HTML is (Microsoft standard, Netscape standard). As far as I'm concerned it can stay proposed until somebody re-writes or removes the section on redefinable symbols and macros and declares the use of the exclamation mark delimiter as deprecated. I don't have any problems with the rest of it, but I've been arguing against that section ever since it first appeared. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
Henrik Norbeck writes: | What's the problem? !tenuto! conforms well to the proposed | standard. Actually, BarFly should simply ignore anything between | !! that it does not understand, because this makes the abc | standard esay to extend. Sometime in the future someone might | come up with the bright idea that !asdf! should mean something | too. Highly likely, too. Especially now that all those people who don't even speak English are starting to use the Net. (Hey, who let them on? ;-) Some of them have some very nice music, but they often like to use their own terminology, for some strange reason. | BTW, how long is this new standard going to be only proposed? | Can we get along to deciding something now, for #%/=+#% sake! | Otherwise we will land where HTML is (Microsoft standard, | Netscape standard). Heh. HTML is a good example where standardizing didn't do a whole lot of good. Microsoft's HTML is full of blatant violations of the standards, and they have no intention of fixing them. We are the standard. Netscape is somewhat better, but still hardly a paragon. The best compliance seems to come from those weird Norwegians over at opera.com, who somehow picked up the unusual idea that their software should follow industry standards. They did something really fun just today, to mock Microsoft's repeated attempts to exclude opera users from msn.com sites. There's a good discussion of it going on at: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/02/14/1256231mode=threadtid=133 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
