Re: [abcusers] abcm2ps, guitar chords, vocal music, etc.
Jean-Francois,
I just got around to trying out your suggestion below for enclosing a
note in parentheses:
>
> Yes, you may use annotations:
>
> "<("">)"A
And it doesn't work. Instead of getting a note in parentheses, what I
get is a "guitar chord" that looks like this:
<(
>)
The program does not seem to be properly interpreting the symbols as
text annotations.
Here's my exact lines from the .abc file:
M:C
L:1/4
K:G
"G/B"B,C "G"DF|"G/E"G2 B2|"Am"C4|"D"z2 z/ "<("">)"C/ B,/C/|"Bm"D/B,F,3|
w:fun-ny, but the bells don't ring. * It's a qui-et thing.
w:think you'd hear the cho-ir sing, but it's a qui-et thing.
(Note the parentheses should be around the middle C in the fourth
measure for the word "but" in the second verse.)
BTW, I'm using abcm2ps-2.11.3 (May 5, 2002) if that makes any
difference.
And, this below:
>
> or a user defined decoration (from deco.abc):
>
> %%postscript /opnot{
> %%postscript M -6 -3 RM /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (\( \)) show}!
> %%deco () 1 opnot 0 0 0
>
> !()!A
I can't get to work either. Do I have to place something special in my
file to get it use deco.abc?
Thanks a lot,
Chris
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Re: [abcusers] converting abc to midi in bulk
Abc2midi by default converts ALL tunes in a single abc file to midi files, and names them by default based on the X: field. e.g. if you have Foobar.abc, all the tunes will be named Foobar1.mid, Foobar2.mid, etc. Abc2midi will also name based on tune title if you use the -t switch. -Chris JOe Joe wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anyone here know of a program that will allow mass conversion of > abc to midi (instead of having to save each one individually which > will take me years). > > Thanks > > daniel > > -- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] ps2gif?
Ooh, I like this one better. I imagine it's what you use in
tune-finder, am I right? It give a nice compact image (unlike convert,
which makes too much whitespace), and quite small files as well (reduced
by about a factor of 10).
These should get me started with my project quite nicely.
Thanks to all!
-Chris
John Chambers wrote:
>
> Christopher Myers asks:
> | OK, I've read and reread the archives, googled for a while, and I still
> | don't have an answer that really works.
> |
> | Can someone please tell me how to convert a .ps to a .gif?
> |
> | I'm running RedHat Linux 7.1, which of course has gs installed.
>
> Here's the script that I use. Note that it takes a list of ps file
> names on the command line, with or without the .ps suffix, or with
> .eps as a suffix, and produces the corresponding .gif file. You'll
> want to experiment with the resulution.
>
> This also calls pnmcrop and ppmtogif, but you probably have them
> installed, too. And the LD_LIBRARY_PATH may need changing.
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> #
> # ps2gif [resolution] file...
> #
> # Convert a postscript file to GIF, using the gs (GhostScript) command. The
> # resolution defaults to 100, which is a readable compromise for most
> # screens. The files should be postscript files. You can omit a .ps suffix
> # and we'll assume it.
> #
> # Author: John Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> $ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH} = '/usr/X11R6/lib/:/usr/eecs/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib/aout';
>
> if (($R = $ARGV[0]) =~ /^\d+$/) {shift @ARGV} else {$R = 85}
>
> file: for $f (@ARGV) {
> if ($f =~ /(.*)\.(\w*ps)$/i) {
> $F = $f;
> $G = "$1.gif";
> } else {
> if (-f ($F = "$f.ps" )) {$G = "$f.gif";
> } elsif (-f ($F = "$f.eps")) {$G = "$f.gif";
> } elsif (-f ($F = "$f.PS" )) {$G = "$f.GIF";
> } else {
> print STDERR "Can't find postscript file for $f.\n";
> next file;
> }
> }
> system "gs -q -DNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ppmraw -r$R -sOutputFile='|pnmcrop|ppmtogif
> -interlace >$G' -- $F";
> }
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Re: [abcusers] ps2gif?
I knew it was in there somewhere. I just couldn't remember. Thanks! -Chris Manuel Reiter wrote: > > Hi, > > > OK, I've read and reread the archives, googled for a while, and I still > > don't have an answer that really works. > > > > Can someone please tell me how to convert a .ps to a .gif? > > > > I'm running RedHat Linux 7.1, which of course has gs installed. > > You could use 'convert' which is part of the ImageMagick suite. It's > available from http://www.imagemagick.org/ but I guess there's a RedHat > package as well. > > The syntax is just 'convert .ps .gif'. > > Hope this helps, > > Manuel > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] ps2gif?
OK, I've read and reread the archives, googled for a while, and I still don't have an answer that really works. Can someone please tell me how to convert a .ps to a .gif? I'm running RedHat Linux 7.1, which of course has gs installed. Thanks! -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] ABC transposition tool?
Jon Freeman wrote: > > From: "Buddha Buck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Are there any > > tools out there that would allow us to take a collection of tunes in > > ABC and transpose them to a key suitable for tinwhistle notation? > > I use abc2abc to transpose. May be worth a go. > Agreed. But it's probably worth it to try to encapsulate that in a wrapper script of sorts to be smarter -- especially if he doesn't want to "globally" transpose everything, say, down a minor 3rd. He's better off writing something that intelligently reads the keys of each tune, checks the pitch range, then chooses the best key for the whistle based on those discoveries. Sounds like a fun project (for a computer-weenie like myself)! -Chris > Jon > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Name that tune (in tune-finder)?
I have a vague memory of there being a beta version of this somewhere, but I seem to have lost it. What I'd like to do is enter the ABC (regardless of key) for the first few notes or bars of a tune I have stuck in my head, and push "Go" and get back a list of likely candidates for what my tune is. Am I crazy, or does such a thing already exist? (I realize those conditions are not mutually exclusive) Thanks, -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] multi line footer in abcm2ps
Atte André Jensen wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:37:43 -0500 > Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's a great case of something being lost in translation. > > > > No offense, Atte, but "Huh?" > > That's OK, I'll try again :-) > > How do I put more than one line in a footer using abcm2ps? I tried to > just put a really long line in the format file, but the program doesn't > break it. Also tried to have two footer entries, but only one shows up > in the tune... > > Was that better? > Much. And I still don't know. -Chris -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] multi line footer in abcm2ps
Here's a great case of something being lost in translation. No offense, Atte, but "Huh?" -Chris Atte André Jensen wrote: > > How to I achieve the subject? > > -- > peace, love & harmony > Atte > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
Jack Campin wrote: > > U:M=!tenuto! > > Doesn't work in BarFly - that redefinition of M isn't permitted as > it doesn't know what "!tenuto!" is (and hopefully never will do). > Sorry about that. My only intention with the given abc is that it would be used in abcm2ps, since that's what I use. I don't use barfly, and this topic came up as a result of "abc in web pages", for which you would have to use one of the shell-based tools (such as abcm2ps or any other clone) in order to generate stuff on the fly (or can Barfly actually do that too?). The tenuto is only there as a friendly reminder to our fifers that it is not appropriate to breathe there. Fifer's tend to whack those high notes painfully. ;-) > This does work, albeit it's only half a solution as BarFly has no > way of playing the tenuto: > . . . > > The arrangement sounds a bit saccharine to me; To each his own I guess. It's the first and only version I know (before seeing yours below), and I like it a lot. I'd prefer something > like this - based on the Scottish version, in A, but still for two > flutes: > > X:2 > T:Mrs McLeod of Raasay > M:C| > L:1/8 > K:A Mixolydian, etc . . . I kinda like that version as well. It has a whole different feel to it than ours - especially the B section. Perhaps the version we use was written for my Corps' specific sound and playing style. You gotta hear the Ciaglia version played by about 10 fifes in our rehearsal space. It's to die for. Cheers, Chris - > Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760 > <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack> * food intolerance data & recipes, > Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files, and my CD-ROM "Embro, Embro". > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] McLeod's Reel [was: abc in web pages]
After I posted this, I got a request off-list for the source of this
arrangement, and I have since discovered that it was done by
Composer/Arranger John Ciaglia, who has done lots of Flute, Piccolo and
Fife stuff, mostly for Fife and Drum Corps in the New England area. So
know you know, too.
-Chris
P.S. - Added this info to the C: header below.
Christopher Myers wrote:
>
> I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if
> this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I do,
> and it comes out quite nice IMHO:
>
X:9
T:McLeod's Reel
C:Arr. by John Ciaglia
M:2/4
L:1/16
%%staves [1 2]
U:M=!tenuto!
K:G
V:1
|:BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|A2{B}AG AcBA|
.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2::
BA|GABc dBGA|BcBA BcBA|GABc dBGB|A2{B}AG AcBA|
GABc dBGA|BcBA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2:|
V:2
|:BA|GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2BA|GDGB c2ce|dcAF D2FA|
GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2B2|c2>A2 c2c2|B2G2 F2::
D2|B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 B2D2|B2G2 BGD2|dcAD F2c2|
B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 gdB2|c2>G2 c2c2|B2G2 F2:|
> I've found that the first voice determines how everything lines up in
> the output. If you screw up in the second voice, as far as measure
> lengths or line lengths, Voice 1 is the "master", and abcm2ps tries to
> do the best it can, often with surprising ugly results.
>
> Atte's abc renderer (http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php) does a
> very nice job with this (obviously he uses abcm2ps) whereas the one on
> concertina.net (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html) doesn't
> look very nice.
>
> Again, I dunno if my abc is standard, but it makes pretty output, which
> is my goal anyway.
>
> -Chris
>
> Jeff Bigler wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:20:54 -0500
> > > From: Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > I prefer abcm2ps, as it allows me more control of the output (IMHO).
> >
> > On the subject of abcm2ps, can anyone here tell me how to make it output
> > two voices onto separate staves? abc2ps does this with the following
> > command:
> >
> > %%staves [(1 2)]
> >
> > but even after reading the source code for abcm2ps I haven't found
> > anything similar. Am I just missing this, or is there in fact no way to
> > do it?
> >
> > Jeff
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Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages
> > Using my new previewer with 3 programs it seems that both abcm2ps and > yaps understands the above (only yaps output looks like cr**) but abc2ps > chokes on the "U:M=!tenuto!"... > I just did the same, and IMO, it's the abc2ps version that looks like cr**. The yaps version isn't as pretty as abcm2ps, but at least it handles all the notation properly. One more RFE (request for enhancement) while we're on the subject: Since you added a download button at the bottom of the results page, why not add "midi" button as well? Should be pretty simple, right? Anyway, thanks for the VERY nice tool! -Chris > > Atte's abc renderer (http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php) does a > > very nice job with this (obviously he uses abcm2ps) whereas the one on > > concertina.net (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html) doesn't > > look very nice. > > Comparing outputs with my previewer I can almost conclude that they use > abc2ps... > > -- > peace, love & harmony > Atte > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages
Christopher Myers wrote:
>
> I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if
> this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it).
OK, I take that back. abc2midi handles this quite well. What I was
remembering was that previously I had Parts labelled in the abc (to
instruct players to play AABB or ABAB or whatever), and whenever the P:
line was seen after the V: line, abc2midi got confused.
Here's what I do,
> and it comes out quite nice IMHO:
>
> X:9
> T:McLeod's Reel
> M:2/4
> L:1/16
> %%staves [1 2]
> U:M=!tenuto!
> K:G
> V:1
> |:BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|A2{B}AG AcBA|
> .G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2::
> BA|GABc dBGA|BcBA BcBA|GABc dBGB|A2{B}AG AcBA|
> GABc dBGA|BcBA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2:|
> V:2
> |:BA|GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2BA|GDGB c2ce|dcAF D2FA|
> GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2B2|c2>A2 c2c2|B2G2 F2::
> D2|B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 B2D2|B2G2 BGD2|dcAD F2c2|
> B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 gdB2|c2>G2 c2c2|B2G2 F2:|
>
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Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages
I've managed to get separate voices using abcm2ps (note: I'm not sure if
this is standard abc, but abc2midi doesn't like it). Here's what I do,
and it comes out quite nice IMHO:
X:9
T:McLeod's Reel
M:2/4
L:1/16
%%staves [1 2]
U:M=!tenuto!
K:G
V:1
|:BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2BA|.G2Mg2 edeg|A2{B}AG AcBA|
.G2Mg2 edeg|B2{c}BA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2::
BA|GABc dBGA|BcBA BcBA|GABc dBGB|A2{B}AG AcBA|
GABc dBGA|BcBA B2d2|e2>f2 edef|gedB A2:|
V:2
|:BA|GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2BA|GDGB c2ce|dcAF D2FA|
GDGB c2ce|dBGE D2B2|c2>A2 c2c2|B2G2 F2::
D2|B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 B2D2|B2G2 BGD2|dcAD F2c2|
B2G2 BGD2|G2d2 gdB2|c2>G2 c2c2|B2G2 F2:|
I've found that the first voice determines how everything lines up in
the output. If you screw up in the second voice, as far as measure
lengths or line lengths, Voice 1 is the "master", and abcm2ps tries to
do the best it can, often with surprising ugly results.
Atte's abc renderer (http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php) does a
very nice job with this (obviously he uses abcm2ps) whereas the one on
concertina.net (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html) doesn't
look very nice.
Again, I dunno if my abc is standard, but it makes pretty output, which
is my goal anyway.
-Chris
Jeff Bigler wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:20:54 -0500
> > From: Christopher Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I prefer abcm2ps, as it allows me more control of the output (IMHO).
>
> On the subject of abcm2ps, can anyone here tell me how to make it output
> two voices onto separate staves? abc2ps does this with the following
> command:
>
> %%staves [(1 2)]
>
> but even after reading the source code for abcm2ps I haven't found
> anything similar. Am I just missing this, or is there in fact no way to
> do it?
>
> Jeff
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Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages
John, I have a suggestion for an enhancement to your tune-finder. (Posted to the group to possibly influence you in your decision by getting folks on the bandwagon) How about a textbox in which I can enter my own abc, and click a button or link that will generate the output I want? I just found your ABCconversion.html page, and that's fantastic, but it doesn't help me convert my files on my machine, which are not on a webserver, nor does it allow me to, on-the-fly, look at renderings of my own works-in-progress. Also, you use abc2ps to render. How about in the new section mentioned above you give the user an option to use abcm2ps instead? I prefer abcm2ps, as it allows me more control of the output (IMHO). >From my HTML/CGI coding experience, it sounds like it would be pretty simple to attach the textbox value to the same cgi that processes the files on the web -- and it would be significantly faster, since there's no additional machine to contact -- just yours and mine. Anyway, just some thoughts from a lazy musician/programmer who doesn't want to write more than he has to. :-) -Chris John Chambers wrote: > > Richard Robinson writes: > | On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:47:18PM +, John Chambers wrote: > | > > | > The main problem with making such a suggestion is that most > | > of the suggestions I've gotten for enhancements have been > | > based on the assumption that I have all the abc sitting on > | > the disk. ... Anything > | > that requires searching through the tune collection would > | > take several days. ... > | > | Just out of interest, how long do you guess it would take to > | actually grab all the ABC you're indexing (and how big would it > | be) ... do it once and it would speed searching through them up. > > The search currently takes about 2.5 days. I don't have a > good estimate of the total size of all the files (and it > would take me about 2.5 days to find this number ;-). > > | The problem of which, apart from resources, is cacheing obsolete > | versions ... maybe a protocol, or convention, or something, for > | grab-an-ABC-*if*-it's-changed, would be useful ? > > Actually, that's not difficult. All web servers return the > modification time of files, whether you ask for it or not. > > I suspect that I could actually cache all the online abc > (that I've found so far). There are some interesting things > that could be done with this. > > The main reason that I haven't experimented with this is > the feeling that it would be overly presumptuous. The > online abc sites are somewhat personal collections, and I > think the diversity is rather a good thing. The interesting > thing to do with it, in my mind, is to experiment with > accessing the abc web sites as they are, in whatever form > their owners may keep them. And I've often encouraged > people to experiment with their site's layout. Gathering it > all onto one machine is the way that people have done > things for decades. But working with things on the Net as > they are is a somewhat new thing, and interesting to > experiment with. > > There's also the "personal" issue. Many of the online abc > collections are clearly very personal collections. Some of > them (such as Jerry Holland's site) are new music that > really shouldn't be copied as a whole without permission. > > It's true that google caches much of the web, and nobody > much complains (except for the Scientologists ;-). But they > don't actually *do* anything with their cached pages. It's > just a form of backup (and only lasts for a few months). > > But then, some abc sites have disappeared. In a few cases, > I do wish I'd nabbed a copy first. > > But I think I'll keep working mainly on finding things to > do with online abc where it is, and let others deal with > copying it all to their disks. Trying to actually use the > Net as a live, interconnected system is more interesting > than downloading everything and working off a local disk. > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies
My own version of this story, or "There and Back Again". I was always a geek. I was in Spelling Bees, read alot, sucked at sports, got picked on a lot (sound familiar?). In the 5th grade, they passed out little index cards with the intention of getting us to join the band. On the card was a list of instruments to choose from. We were supposed to circle one, and hand it back in. I circled Saxophone -- I was a fan of "Happy Days", and Richie Cunningham played the Sax. A couple of weeks later, I was the proud [almost] owner of a cheesy student model alto saxophone, which I picked up pretty quickly. Over the years in Junior High, and up through High School, my musical affinity grew -- I picked up Guitar in 9th grade (to get girls, of course, which really didn't work all that well), and eventually became part of the marching band at the high school. Now I was a true geek -- a "band fag" to be precise. Along the way, my abilities and aptitude for Math became evident, eventually paving the way for me to go through an Accelerated Math curriculum at my school. Additionally, I took a course in BASIC in the 10th grade, which I found very simple, but never went beyond that (as far as computers) in High school. By the time I was a Senior, and it was time to apply to Colleges, I was torn: Should I try for Music, my passion, or should I be smart, and go into Engineering, or something else to use my Math aptitude (and try to make some money)? I spoke to a number of people, and it was mainly my Band director to whom I give credit (blame?) for my decision to try to meld my love of music and my ability in math into a Music Major with emphasis in Sound Recording Technology -- a Recording Engineer. I attended the University of Lowell, MA (now UMass, Lowell) the following Fall, and excelled in their program when I started. Now, what happens when you dump a total geek into a Music college? Answer: He learns how to party -- and very heartily, I might add. My GPA, which started at 3.6 my first semester, steadily nose-dived for 4 years, til my final semester (my 4th year, but not enough credits to be a Senior) I had something in the ballpark of a 1.6. While at college, I became a real performing musician, playing what we called "covers for drunks" - you know the type - the guy playing and singing in a bar for a bunch of screaming 22-year-olds who want to hear "American Pie" and "Brown-eyed Girl" three times a night. My future wife eventually ended up being my singing partner, and we kept this gig going for a while, eventually no longer "covers for drunks" but playing the coffeehouse circuit with my original compositions. Something else happened along the way also. The University program I was in was a music program, but it was also pretty heavy technically: We had to take up through Calc 2, Basic Electrical Engineering courses, Pascal Programming, and Physics/Acoustics classes, all with the intention of weeding out those musicians who couldn't handle the technical aspects of the program. I had the opposite problem: I aced all the "hard" stuff, and slacked at the music classes. By the middle of my 2nd Senior year, it was obvious that a music degree was not for me, and besides I was broke, and anything more than 4 years of college was on my tab -- not my parents' anymore. I ended up moving back home. I then enrolled in Rhode Island College as (of all things) a Math Major, with the intention of becoming a High School Math teacher! I graduated 3 years later, Magna Cum Laude, and set out to find a teaching job. After substitute teaching for 3 years (at $60/day!) and working odd manual jobs (I was also a professional house painter), I ended up taking some programming classes, and to make a long story short (it's already long, isn't it?), I met someone in the class, and she got me a job working in software Quality Assurance at her company, where I worked for 4 1/2 years, honed my programming skills, and then (where I am now) got a job as a real full-fledged programmer. Which takes us up to just a few months back, when I saw a local Fife & Drum Corps, and I joined them as a Fifer -- having never played the Fife before, but being a geek and a lifelong musician, it was pretty simple to pick up -- which is when I discovered ABC while looking for a way to decently transcribe the ugly-handwritten-photocopies-of-photocopies repertoire I was handed when I joined. So that's my long-winded version of "There and Back Again", in which I go from Geek-to-Musician-to-Geek-to-Musician- . . . How long 'til I'm a geek again? (If you read this far, thanks for humoring me! It's good to spew every now and then. Perhaps I'll add this to my CV!) -Chris -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc in web pages
Karl Dallas wrote:
>
> I'm sure lots of people know the answer to this question, so apologies.
> Is there any way to use abc in a webpage so it can be played, either on
> loading, or when a link is clicked?
> If so, can anyone point me to where I can find out how to do this? Does
> the reader need to have some kind of a plug-in? If so, where can this be
> obtained? Could it be placed alongside the html file so a click will
> install it on the reader's PC?
No plug in is required for the abc-tune-finder webpage:
http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/FindTune.html
This is presumably what you want to do on your webpage. Try it out. I
believe what they do here is connect to other people's collections of
abc tunes on each individual server, then process the abc on their
server (mit.edu) into whatever format the user clicks on, then delivers
it to the user. I've thought of implementing my own version of that,
but I haven't had time to work it out yet.
Should be straightforward. Here's what I envision for my site.
Have a list of tunes, each of which is a link to a cgi (run on my server
obviously). Clicking the link will bring up a page with a web-viewable
image of the notation (png or gif), which can be generated to .ps on the
fly using your favorite rendering program, then converted to png. On
this page could be more links to regenerate the page in plain abc, or
midi, also done via the cgi on my server.
This must be what they do on the mit server.
> (Since writing the above, I've done some web searching, and found the
> following comment from Bruce Olson at http://users.erols.com/olsonw/:
> ("To the best of my knowledge you can't play ABC's from web browsers and
> must copy the xx.ABC file to your computer. Then use ABC2WIN in WINDOWS,
> or PLAYQABC in DOS, to play them (no tune display from the latter).)
> (Perhaps it would be possible to have a link that said something like
> Play tune which would play if the reader had
> abc2win or similar installed. Would this work? I must try it - but
> probably not yet awhile since I'm leaving for Iraq in 14 days' time & am
> running around like the proverbial blue-tail fly getting my travelling
> act together.)
Good luck overseas, and Godspeed! Kick some Ass!
-Chris
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> personal views, and does not necessarily represent the views of any
> organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or
> internationally.
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Re: [abcusers] Fwd: Kid and cat
OK, since it was me who derided the OP of this thread with the OT jokes, I'd like to commend the rest of you for continuing the thread, and leaning it back in a musical direction (although strangely keeping the elusive subject line, making it impossible to kill the thread!). I'd also like to publicly apologize to Zouki (the OP) for the flame, as I was having a bad day, and the OT jokester was lucky enough to be the target of my misery. Sorry. Now for more banjo jokes: If you have A LOT of time on your hands, check out this page: http://home.btclick.com/esoft6/dance/humour/banjo.html But I'll just give one sample: What do you get when you toss a banjo out of a 20th story window? Applause. -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Fwd: Kid and cat
Anybody else annoyed at Zouki for filling our mail with these (now 2 in a row)? Zouki, this list is not for cute email stories and jokes. I think most of us got over that use of email a long time ago. Please stop, and let's get back on topic. Thanks, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Subject: > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:15:12 -0500 > From: Flip Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > BA-BOOM > -- > > > > > WHY WE LOVE CHILDREN > > > >> > > > >> A kindergarten pupil told his teacher he'd found a cat. > > > >> She asked him if it was dead or alive. > > > >> "Dead." She was informed. > > > >> "How do you know?" she asked her pupil. > > > >> "Because I pissed in its ear and it didn't move," > > > >> answered the child innocently. > > > >> "You did WHAT?!?" the teacher exclaimed in surprise. > > > >> "You know," explained the boy, "I leaned over and > > > >> went 'Pssst!' and it didn't move." > > > > > > -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps
Thanks, Guido -- that was EXACTLY what I needed!
Of course, my perfectionism has taken over, and I've tweaked the
notation slightly more, with the final result being as follows:
PUT2("/Times-Italic-Bold 16 selectfont %.1f %.1f M (8vb) show\n",
x+9, y+5);
Now my output notation looks almost exactly like the sheet music I
transcribed it from. Of course, now I can't make it say "8va" in the
proper location at the top of the clef, but for my custom purposes,
that's OK (as long as I remember what I changed so I can put it back the
right way :-) )
Now we should probably both get back to work. ;)
-Chris
Guido Gonzato wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Christopher Myers wrote:
>
> > * I can make notation that looks like this:
> >
> > ___|)__
> > |___/___
> > |__/|___
> > |_/(|,\_
> > |_\_|_/_
> > |
> > (_|
> > 8
> >
> > by simply putting K:treble-8 but the 8 is too small for my taste.
> >
> > Perhaps I'm being too much of a perfectionist here, but if there's a way
> > to do what I want, I'd very much like to try.
>
> being a perfectionist is the engine of civilization (sometimes...) well, I
> have found a quick solution that involves a minor modification to the
> source. Grab the abcm2ps source archive, unpack it, then edit the file
> draw.c. At line 2619, you'll read:
>
> PUT2("/Times-Roman 10 selectfont %.1f %.1f M (8) show\n",
> x, y);
>
> all you have to do is change this line as:
>
> PUT2("/Times-Roman 16 selectfont %.1f %.1f M (8) show\n",
> x, y - 3);
>
> then run ./configure, make, and make install as usual.
>
> I suppose Jean-François will find a way to make it possible to customise
> even this small detail... or I'll see to it.
>
> Ciao,
> Guido =8-)
>
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Re: [abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps
Guido,
Thanks so much for your detailed response. That is indeed "almost" what
I'm looking for, but I'd like to go one step further.
Since it looks like you know how to tweak postscript code (and I don't),
I'm going to pick your brain a bit here.
What I'd like to see, is the "8va basso" notation beneath the staff,
since it's for the bottom voice part. Ideally, what it should look like
is the following (ASCII art from www.ascii-art.de):
___|)_
|___/__|___
|__/|__|___
|_/(|,\|___
|_\_|_/|___
|
(_| |_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _<- Note: No ending vertical bar
8va basso throughout
or
___|)_
|___/__|___
|__/|__|___
|_/(|,\|___
|_\_|_/|___
|
(_| 8vb (On every clef for this voice! *See note below)
* I can make notation that looks like this:
___|)__
|___/___
|__/|___
|_/(|,\_
|_\_|_/_
|
(_|
8
by simply putting K:treble-8 but the 8 is too small for my taste.
Perhaps I'm being too much of a perfectionist here, but if there's a way
to do what I want, I'd very much like to try.
Thanks!!
-Chris
Guido Gonzato wrote:
>
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Christopher Myers wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know how (if possible) to put octave notation, e.g.
> >
> > "8va basso - - - - - - "
> >
> > into abc so that abcm2ps can render it? I tried making it lyrics, and
> > that didn't quite look right, as it tried to line up each "word" with
> > the notes above, and I don't need that to happen, obviously.
> >
> > I'm rendering a 4 part score (fife quartet) and usually, the "8va basso"
> > is understood for the bottom part, but I want to remove any ambiguity.
>
> I'm not really sure what you mean. I suppose the "8va basso - - - - - - "
> indication that is found on some piano scores, which denotes that a
> certain number of notes are to be played an octave lower.
>
> Abcm2ps doesn't have this indication, but it's really easy to add it using
> the existing "8va" new decoration (see deco.abc) as template. Try this:
>
> % octava.abc -*- Abc -*-
> %
> % This file provides a few decorations for abcm2ps
> %
> % (from Jean-Francois Moine)
> % -- draw octava indication
> %%postscript /eoct {
> %%postscriptM 0 6 rlineto currentpoint stroke M
> %%postscript[6] 0 setdash 30 add 0 rlineto currentpoint stroke M
> %%postscript[] 0 setdash 0 -6 rlineto stroke
> %%postscript } bdef
> %%postscript /octava { % usage: len x y octava
> %%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
> %%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show eoct
> %%postscript } bdef
> % -- start / stop of octava indication
> %%deco 8( 5 - 24 0 0
> %%deco 8) 5 octava 24 0 0
> %
> %%postscript /octavab { % usage: len x y octavab
> %%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
> %%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( bassa) show eoct
> %%postscript } bdef
> % -- start / stop of octava bassa indication
> %%deco 8b( 5 - 24 0 0
> %%deco 8b) 5 octavab 24 0 0
> %
> %%postscript /octavaa { % usage: len x y octavaa
> %%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
> %%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (8) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( alta) show eoct
> %%postscript } bdef
> % -- start / stop of octava alta indication
> %%deco 8a( 5 - 24 0 0
> %%deco 8a) 5 octavaa 24 0 0
> %
> %%postscript /coctavaa { % usage: len x y coctavaa
> %%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
> %%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (con 8) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 16 selectfont ( alta) show eoct
> %%postscript } bdef
> % -- start / stop of con octava alta indication
> %%deco c8a( 5 - 24 0 0
> %%deco c8a) 5 coctavaa 24 0 0
> %
> %%postscript /coctavab { % usage: len x y coctavab
> %%postscriptexch -9 add exch 2 copy
> %%postscriptM 0 10 rmoveto /Times-Roman 16 selectfont (con 8) show
> %%postscript/Times-Roman 12 selectfont (va) show
&g
[abcusers] abc2midi - Anybody know how to . . .
Again, another possibly silly question. (First, note that I'm working on a linux box) I have an abc file with multiple tunes in it. abc2midi very happily renders all the tunes in that file into midi files (filename1.mid, filename2.mid, etc). I plop these files onto into a webpage, and generally listen to them using my browser (netscape 4.*) since playmidi complains about not being able to find /dev/sequencer (any solution for that, anyone?). My issue is, I can only listen to them one at a time, and for short abc tunes, it's a nuisance to have to keep clicking the links to the tune. What I'd like is a way to join midi files, perhaps with a few seconds of silence between them, into a single file, so that I can listen to all tunes in a single multi-tune abc file with one click in my browser. It sounds like it should be simple, but I haven't figured it out yet. Thanks in advance, Oh great ones, -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] 8va notation, abcm2ps
Does anybody know how (if possible) to put octave notation, e.g. "8va basso - - - - - - " into abc so that abcm2ps can render it? I tried making it lyrics, and that didn't quite look right, as it tried to line up each "word" with the notes above, and I don't need that to happen, obviously. I'm rendering a 4 part score (fife quartet) and usually, the "8va basso" is understood for the bottom part, but I want to remove any ambiguity. Thanks in advance, -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 111R Chestnut St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc2ps clones
My two cents: >From my limited experience (the better part of two weeks), I started with yaps, because I was originally only trying to listen to abc files, and yaps came with the abcmidi package (from sourceforge). Yaps did a nice job rendering abc's into ps, but I had some problems with multiple voices, specifically with getting the bar lines to continue through both staves in a 2-voice piece. Next I tried abc2ps, which was better for some things, but not others. Here's a copy from my recent posting to the rec.music.folk newsgroup: I downloaded the abcmidi package, and am very pleased with how yaps generates output for single melody line tunes. However, I've been having problems with multi-voiced tunes when generating ps files. Basically, I'm torn between using yaps and abc2ps, since they both do part of what I want, but neither does everything I want. yaps (comes with the abc2midi package) nicely handles multiple voices (i.e. "Fife 1" and "Fife 2") as far as being able to separate them, and line them up nicely in printed form. The problem here is I can't get yaps to make the bar lines continue through both parts -- the only place there is a continuous bar line for both parts is at the beginning of each group of staves. abc2ps handles this nicely -- all you have to do is put the parameter "stv=2" in the V: line when you first define the voices, and it works fine. The problem with abc2ps (this may or may not be true) is that I can't make it respect my P: notation (e.g. Parts A and B for playing a tune in AABB format). Actually, having V: and P: together in the same tune completely hoses both attempts. Also: yaps blindly and faithfully respects my line breaks, which I like. abc2ps seems to do only what it wants to do with my line breaks (again, maybe I'm wrong here, too), which sometimes yields output I don't like, e.g. one measure on the final staff. I was eventually pointed to abcm2ps, which took care of all my problems. However, now I'm trying to do weirder stuff that apparently neither program can handle. Someone else pointed me to MUP, but it's a non-abc input format. My two cents. Give me change if I deserve it. -Chris Jon Freeman wrote: > > John Chambers wrote: > > > Actually, if you're using an abc2ps clone, there are > > several pseudocomments that will work. > > There is abc2ps and there seem to be a few clones (abcm2ps, jabc2ps, yaps, > and I guess more). What are the merits of each? > > Jon > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on your computer (assuming you're running windows). I've never tried to do this (I'm running linux), but I believe it ends up being a DOS thing, i.e. run from the command prompt. I think all you have to do is compile the actual main program abc2ps.c, which makes the executable you'll need (abc2ps.exe on windows). Apart from that info, I don't think there's anything else I can tell you. -Chris Portsmouth, RI! (Right over the bridge!)"A. O. Gutierrez" wrote: > > I have been using ABC2win and found it inadequate for transcribing songs or > choral music so I downloaded John Atcherly's ABC2ps program, but can't > figure out how to get at it. The instructions seem to assume that you have > done things they don't need to tell you about. I assume that this is a DOS > program, but I'm not sure which files need to opened and in what order to > get it up and running. Any help? > > A. O. Gutierrez > Jamestown, RI > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] top margins
> > Nah. What I want to do is print a tune unto a page which has already has a tune >printed > on it ! > > It is definately possible, but I have just forgotten how :-( > > Thanks a lot. > Isn't that what the pseudocomment %%titlespace is for? I think the default is 10 or 20, so if you put %%titlespace 60 before your T: line, it adds 60 (pixels?) of space before it prints the title. Details for most of the pseudocomments are in the New.Features file that comes with abc2ps and abcm2ps. Good luck! -Chris -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] abc drum notation and abc2ps
Toby Rider wrote: > > You could always use liquid paper, white-out the notes heads and redraw > them in as X's with a sharpie permanent marker.. Ha..Ha.. yes, but can I do that on my hard drive? ;) > > > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Christopher Myers wrote: > > > >> 1) Can I use an "X" for a note head? > > > > no, unless you redefine the PostScript code that draws noteheads. If you > > can't do it yourself, I may consider experimenting - but don't hold your > > breath. > > > >> 2) Can I put multiple slashes across the stem of a note? (I think > >> that's > > > > no, unless you write an ad-hoc PostScript routine. As above... > > > >> 3) Can I render a grace note without the tie? (That's a 'flam'). > > > > yes, using the %%graceslurs 0 command in the ABC source, or the -G 0 > > switch in the abcm2ps command line. > > > >> I'm sure there are other things too, but those are the biggies the > >> Drum Sergeant came up with last night. > >> > >> Thanks in advance! > > > > that's all right. Ciao, > >Guido =8-) > > > > -- > > Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. - Linux System > > Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. > > Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) > > Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: > > http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: >http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Stop the list - I want off!
> > I too have tried to unsubscribe, to no avail. > > I looked at the source of the web page, and may have found the problem. > (Those of you who are programmers, please double check). > > If I am right, this says if the button is checked, you subscribe; if it > is unchecked, you unsubscribe. However, the form uses a radio button, > not a checkbox, so to unsubscribe, you check the button that has to be > unchecked in order to unsubscribe > > --Claire > > > Please select the desired request: > > subscribe TYPE="RADIO" NAME="command" Value="subscribe" checked> > unsubscribe TYPE="RADIO" NAME="command" Value="unsubscribe" unchecked> > > OK, I took the bait. The above code DOES NOT say that the radio button needs to be "unchecked" in order to unsubscribe. All that HTML code says is that "this is the default state of these form items at page load time", i.e. When I load the page, the Subscribe button is checked, whereas the unsubscribe button is not. The latter is redundant, being that they are radio buttons, hence your confusion. OK? Cheers, -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] abc drum notation and abc2ps
Hello, Group! I recently joined a Fife & Drum Corps (as a Fifer), and was handed a repertoire composed of horrible photocopies of photocopies. I then proceeded to poke around to find out the best way to re-notate all the music, and stumbled upon abc, which I decided was the best and fastest way to do it. I have been having pretty good success in rendering the music, mainly using abcm2ps (not abc2ps) to generate printed scores, and now the Drum Sergeant is looking to see if we can use abc to generate Drum scores. Most of the notation looks like it can be rendered, but there are a couple of things I can't seem to find: 1) Can I use an "X" for a note head? 2) Can I put multiple slashes across the stem of a note? (I think that's the symbol for a roll or something) 3) Can I render a grace note without the tie? (That's a 'flam'). I'm sure there are other things too, but those are the biggies the Drum Sergeant came up with last night. Thanks in advance! -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Newbie.
I tried emailing the list owner, but to no avail. Does anyone know how to access an archive of postings to this list, or an FAQ, or a web-accessible version? I don't want to ask questions that have been posed dozens of times, to the frustration of frequent haunters of this list. Thanks, -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
