Re: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-12 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:53:38 -0200, Paulo 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Eleut=E9rio=20Tib=FArcio?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Barnaby wrote:
 I have been an ABCwin user for some years but am now switching from
 windows to linux. 

Welcome to the promised land!

   Can any lister please tell me which abc program that
 runs on linux most closely approximates ABCwin in functions. Thanks.
[snip - list of Linux programs]

You forgot 'tclabc' (in my home page) which contains a native graphical
interface to ABC (display, play, record, transpose, ...).

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RE: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-06 Thread John Barnaby
Thanks Paulo
Can I contact you privately?
John
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John Barnaby wrote:
 
 I have been an ABCwin user for some years but am now switching from
 windows to linux. 

Welcome to the promised land!

   Can any lister please tell me which abc program that
 runs on linux most closely approximates ABCwin in functions. Thanks.
 


I'm afraid you'll have to get used to the Unix/Linux way of getting some
things done, that is, use several different packages, each one designed
for a specific task:  one for printing/viewing (done in *n*x with TeX or
PostScript, both of which you should already have right from the box in
Linux) output, another for getting MIDI output, others to manipulate the
abc source (transpose, separate parts multivoice tunes, and so on), some
to get special output (tablature, ...).

To begin with, I'd advise to get:

  - for viewing/printing sheet music:

abcm2ps http://moinejf.free.fr/
Converts abc to PostScript.

jaabc2ps http://www.guitarnut.com/abc/
Same;  also generates tablatures.
Win source/EXE zips and Linux RPMs available.

abctab2ps http://www.lautengesellschaft.de/cdmm/
Generates PostScript and lute/guitar tablatures.  Site
has other useful programs (add-ons, scripts) to make
specific tasks easy (number PS output pages, add abc
mode to editors, extract parts, etc.). Source and
binaries (Linux RPM, zipped for Win).

abc2ps http://www.ihp-ffo.de/~msm/
   The father of them all.  Available DOS executables, DOS
   and Linux sources.

  - for MIDI, PostScript sheet music, source manipulation:

abcMIDI http://abc.sourceforge.net/abcMIDI/
4 in 1 package:  abc2midi (converts abc to MIDI)
 midi2abc (tries to get abc from MIDI
   tune)
 abc2abc  (transposes, checks,
   reformats)
 yaps (converts abc to PostScript)

Normally you get the sources (usually in C) to compile (your Linux box
has a C compiler, cc or gcc).  You might check Guido Gonzato's
precompiled  RPMs for abcm2ps and abcMIDI as well as his own programs
abcpp (a preprocessor to use conditional processing, macros and other
source manipulation), abcprt (to get a part from a multivoice tune)
and an abc add-on for Jed text editor, at

  The ABC Plus Project homepage http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/

Except for Skink, these are command line programs.  If you don't feel
like using the shell, there are

  Skink  http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7088/abc4mac.html
 Allows you to edit, view and play ABC 1.6.  I couldn't get it
 to read more complex ABCs.  From what I read on ABCWin home-
 page, that's not quite the functionality you're used to.
 Java application.


  Runabc http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/~seymour/runabc/runabc.html
 A front-end to most of the above and some more (PostScript
 viewers, MIDI players, builtin and user-defined editor) with
 interesting editing and finding functionalities.  Written in
 Tcl/Tk (which you should have in your Linux box).  Seems more
 like what you're looking for, as it integrates the many tools
 in something like an abc development environment.

These, I think, will do for quite a toolbox to play with.  Anyway, you
might wish to check

  The ABC Home Page http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/

for some more Linux apps.  I myself as a rule download and try to
install or build whatever abc software I can get;  they seldom eat much
disk space and generally have some unique feature to accomplish
specific tasks.

I hope it has helped.

Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
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[abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-05 Thread John Barnaby
I have been an ABCwin user for some years but am now switching from
windows to linux. Can any lister please tell me which abc program that
runs on linux most closely approximates ABCwin in functions. Thanks.
John Barnaby



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Re: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-05 Thread Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
John Barnaby wrote:
 
 I have been an ABCwin user for some years but am now switching from
 windows to linux. 

Welcome to the promised land!

   Can any lister please tell me which abc program that
 runs on linux most closely approximates ABCwin in functions. Thanks.
 


I'm afraid you'll have to get used to the Unix/Linux way of getting some
things done, that is, use several different packages, each one designed
for a specific task:  one for printing/viewing (done in *n*x with TeX or
PostScript, both of which you should already have right from the box in
Linux) output, another for getting MIDI output, others to manipulate the
abc source (transpose, separate parts multivoice tunes, and so on), some
to get special output (tablature, ...).

To begin with, I'd advise to get:

  - for viewing/printing sheet music:

abcm2ps http://moinejf.free.fr/
Converts abc to PostScript.

jaabc2ps http://www.guitarnut.com/abc/
Same;  also generates tablatures.
Win source/EXE zips and Linux RPMs available.

abctab2ps http://www.lautengesellschaft.de/cdmm/
Generates PostScript and lute/guitar tablatures.  Site
has other useful programs (add-ons, scripts) to make
specific tasks easy (number PS output pages, add abc
mode to editors, extract parts, etc.). Source and
binaries (Linux RPM, zipped for Win).

abc2ps http://www.ihp-ffo.de/~msm/
   The father of them all.  Available DOS executables, DOS
   and Linux sources.

  - for MIDI, PostScript sheet music, source manipulation:

abcMIDI http://abc.sourceforge.net/abcMIDI/
4 in 1 package:  abc2midi (converts abc to MIDI)
 midi2abc (tries to get abc from MIDI
   tune)
 abc2abc  (transposes, checks,
   reformats)
 yaps (converts abc to PostScript)

Normally you get the sources (usually in C) to compile (your Linux box
has a C compiler, cc or gcc).  You might check Guido Gonzato's
precompiled  RPMs for abcm2ps and abcMIDI as well as his own programs
abcpp (a preprocessor to use conditional processing, macros and other
source manipulation), abcprt (to get a part from a multivoice tune)
and an abc add-on for Jed text editor, at

  The ABC Plus Project homepage http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/

Except for Skink, these are command line programs.  If you don't feel
like using the shell, there are

  Skink  http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7088/abc4mac.html
 Allows you to edit, view and play ABC 1.6.  I couldn't get it
 to read more complex ABCs.  From what I read on ABCWin home-
 page, that's not quite the functionality you're used to.
 Java application.


  Runabc http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/~seymour/runabc/runabc.html
 A front-end to most of the above and some more (PostScript
 viewers, MIDI players, builtin and user-defined editor) with
 interesting editing and finding functionalities.  Written in
 Tcl/Tk (which you should have in your Linux box).  Seems more
 like what you're looking for, as it integrates the many tools
 in something like an abc development environment.

These, I think, will do for quite a toolbox to play with.  Anyway, you
might wish to check

  The ABC Home Page http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/

for some more Linux apps.  I myself as a rule download and try to
install or build whatever abc software I can get;  they seldom eat much
disk space and generally have some unique feature to accomplish
specific tasks.

I hope it has helped.

Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
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Re: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-05 Thread Laura Conrad
 Paulo == Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paulo   Skink
Paulo   http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7088/abc4mac.html
Paulo  Allows you to edit, view and play ABC 1.6.  I
Paulo  couldn't get it to read more complex ABCs.

I hope you sent bug reports about the ABC's it wouldn't read.  Wil is
a really responsive developer, and after I sent him some bug reports,
it now reads my abc's, but unless you tell someone about the problems,
it's going to go on having bugs.

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Re: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-05 Thread Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
Laura Conrad wrote:
 
  Paulo == Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Paulo   Skink
...
 Paulo  couldn't get it to read more complex ABCs.
 
 I hope you sent bug reports about the ABC's it wouldn't read.  Wil is
 a really responsive developer, and after I sent him some bug reports,
 it now reads my abc's, but unless you tell someone about the problems,
 it's going to go on having bugs.
 

Thanks for the advice.  I'll see to it from now on.

Paulo

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