Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don Whitener [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I would agree with your general advice. But I would add that I, out of ignorance, put Ghostscript in a sub-folder other than the default folder and not at the root level. I changed nothing in the configuration files, and everything seems to work just fine. Using Windows 98SE at the moment. Aa! The idiosyncrasies of computers... Keeps programmers off the streets, I presume? Good for you Don - I advised accepting the default location for GSView after it got seriously upset when I relocated it under Win2K, so I haven't dared change the default under my current XP setup just in case - maybe I was just unlucky, or it was a W2K peculiarity, or a my machine peculiarity, or my HDD was having a bad hair day that day, or whatever. Eric, I'd not thought of putting the abcm2ps walk-through on my website, but probably will now you've suggested it :-) -- Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial, the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
So you've got your abcm2ps Windows executable - but I suspect that what you do *next* is also causing you some doubt. whoo, it's a very complete and well detailled step by step process you've written Steve ! I remember your good tutorial for the abc notation (I probably used it when I begin with abc). Is this help for abcm2ps on your homepage also (I'll check for it) ? So I could pass the url to people who want to start with abcm2ps, if not, then I'll forward them this msg. About ghostscript, I've installed it in an other sub-directory than the default one (I don't like to have program folders in the root) and it works fine (even for creating pdf files), but I remember I've changed several things in the configuration files for that, so as Steve said it's probably better for a beginner to let the default installation directory. ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
I would agree with your general advice. But I would add that I, out of ignorance, put Ghostscript in a sub-folder other than the default folder and not at the root level. I changed nothing in the configuration files, and everything seems to work just fine. Using Windows 98SE at the moment. Aa! The idiosyncrasies of computers... Keeps programmers off the streets, I presume? Don At 06:02 PM 11/18/02, Forgeot Eric wrote: About ghostscript, I've installed it in an other sub-directory than the default one (I don't like to have program folders in the root) and it works fine (even for creating pdf files), but I remember I've changed several things in the configuration files for that, so as Steve said it's probably better for a beginner to let the default installation directory. ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
davidcrespo wrote: um, yes, I am curious...how does one compile a c program in windows? run from the command line? Does one need a compiler? There are a few free (as in speech) c-compilers for the windows platform. I'm afraid I might be getting a bit too technical, so here's an `Executive summary': - mingw32: minimal, porting Linux apps may not be trivial - Cygwin: complete Unix environment, porting is easier - DJGPP: DOS compiler The first one is the `mingw32-gcc'. MinGW http://www.mingw.org/ stands for Minimalist GNU for Windows, an effort to port the GNU C Compiler (gcc) to Windows. This allows you to compile software originally designed for the Linux platform on a Windows machine. MinGW uses the Windows libraries, so porting may not be a trivial task... Some abc projects provide support for the mingw32 compiler, if I'm not mistaken. The GCC has been ported to Windows in another project, called Cygwin http://www.cygwin.com. Cygwin is a POSIX emulation layer for Windows. POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface) is a standard from IEEE and was heavily influenced by the Unix operating systems. So, Cygwin enhances your Windows machine with a Unix environment. A lot of software originally for Linux has already been ported to Cygwin. If some of you feel like trying it out, I have some experience with Cygwin, so just send me a line if you need help. And, finally, there's DJGPP http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/. This is a DOS compiler, though... Oh, yeah, all these are started from the command-line, of course. But fortunately, in a lot of packages, a script is provided that builds the application automatically. Cheers, bert -- Bert Van Vreckem If Bill Gates had a penny for each time Windows crashed... Wait a minute! He does! To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Forgeot Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes oh, you should probably use Abcm2ps, it's newer and better than the old abc2ps. Binaries and helps can be found on Guido Gonzato's website. I don't have the url here you can find it with www.google.com and probably also at : http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ I'd second that vote for abcm2ps, much nicer V: handling and a few other tweaks. I also got mine through sourceforge, just follow the abcm2ps links. So you've got your abcm2ps Windows executable - but I suspect that what you do *next* is also causing you some doubt. It's worth pointing out straight away abc2ps and abcm2ps aren't combined editors and viewers like abc2Win: they are processors, eg they take existing abc files and (amongst other fab things) produces Postscript output of conventional notation. This is a bit of a long process to set up, but you'll only need to do this the once, and the results are well worth the effort! So, first write your abc file in your text editor of preference (I use TextPad www.textpad.com, but NotePad will do the job OK-ish) and save your file with an .abc extension (minding, as you do, NotePad's irritating propensity to save files as filename.abc.txt unless you use the All Files option in Save). Now you want to feed that file to abcm2ps - best way to do this regularly is through a batch file. The line in my batch file is c:\progra~1\abc2ps\abcm2ps %1 -O d:\temp\Out.ps d:\temp\abc2psLog.txt (That is all one line despite any email wrapping). where c:\progra~1\abc2ps\abcm2ps is where the abcm2ps executable resides, %1 is the batch file parameter which is set to the abc file at runtime, -O outputs a PostScript file, d:\temp\Out.ps is the PostScript file which is created, and d:\temp\abc2psLog.txt captures the abcm2ps messages to a log file in my temp directory. [You can do all sorts of stuff like only choosing certain tunes from the file, or sending very precise layout options, or produce an index, check the many options for details. To do that just type abcm2ps at the command line in the relevant directory and have a good read.] OK, so now you've got your Postscript file. If your printer speaks PostScript, and you're only ever going to want to print stuff out to paper, print that Postscript file and you're done. If, however, you'd like to see the results on-screen (like you can in Abc2Win) before they print, or just want to see the tunes on-screen and save a forest, and have various other control over the printout, you need GhostScript (a GPL implementation of Postscript) and GsView, two (linked) programs that you can get from various magazine cover disks or a quick search on Google should give you a URL. Install Ghostscript and GSView (The graphical interface) and add another line to your batch file, feeding the .ps file to GSView - mine is c:\gstools\gsview\gsview32.exe d:\temp\Out.ps then when you run your batch file against your abc file, your abc will be converted into PostScript and displayed on-screen for proof-reading or printing (you can print from GSView). One of the reasons I use Textpad for all my text-file work is that TextPad allows you to set up macros to external programs. I've got Macro 1 set up so that the file currently on-screen is fed to my abcm2ps batch file, so all I have to do to process the file in abcm2ps and display the results in GSView is hit ctl1. Other Windows text editors allow similar functionality of course. Good luck, hope this helps! Oh one final thing - GhostScript and GSView, in my experience, get very upset and fail to work properly if you don't install them in the default c:\gstools directory, so just go with that if I were you ... -- Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial, the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
I don't know if this is of any use to anyone but I knocked up a very crude Windows program for testing abc with abcm2ps, abc2midi and ghostscript before posting to folkinfo (we had bad abc causing abcm2ps to loop on the server and an ISP not to happy with me...). It is at http://www.folkinfo.org/abctest.zip The zip contains an ini file that needs to go into the Windows directory and the paths to the programs will need editing. Jon - Original Message - From: Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Forgeot Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes oh, you should probably use Abcm2ps, it's newer and better than the old abc2ps. Binaries and helps can be found on Guido Gonzato's website. I don't have the url here you can find it with www.google.com and probably also at : http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ I'd second that vote for abcm2ps, much nicer V: handling and a few other tweaks. I also got mine through sourceforge, just follow the abcm2ps links. So you've got your abcm2ps Windows executable - but I suspect that what you do *next* is also causing you some doubt. It's worth pointing out straight away abc2ps and abcm2ps aren't combined editors and viewers like abc2Win: they are processors, eg they take existing abc files and (amongst other fab things) produces Postscript output of conventional notation. This is a bit of a long process to set up, but you'll only need to do this the once, and the results are well worth the effort! So, first write your abc file in your text editor of preference (I use TextPad www.textpad.com, but NotePad will do the job OK-ish) and save your file with an .abc extension (minding, as you do, NotePad's irritating propensity to save files as filename.abc.txt unless you use the All Files option in Save). Now you want to feed that file to abcm2ps - best way to do this regularly is through a batch file. The line in my batch file is c:\progra~1\abc2ps\abcm2ps %1 -O d:\temp\Out.ps d:\temp\abc2psLog.txt (That is all one line despite any email wrapping). where c:\progra~1\abc2ps\abcm2ps is where the abcm2ps executable resides, %1 is the batch file parameter which is set to the abc file at runtime, -O outputs a PostScript file, d:\temp\Out.ps is the PostScript file which is created, and d:\temp\abc2psLog.txt captures the abcm2ps messages to a log file in my temp directory. [You can do all sorts of stuff like only choosing certain tunes from the file, or sending very precise layout options, or produce an index, check the many options for details. To do that just type abcm2ps at the command line in the relevant directory and have a good read.] OK, so now you've got your Postscript file. If your printer speaks PostScript, and you're only ever going to want to print stuff out to paper, print that Postscript file and you're done. If, however, you'd like to see the results on-screen (like you can in Abc2Win) before they print, or just want to see the tunes on-screen and save a forest, and have various other control over the printout, you need GhostScript (a GPL implementation of Postscript) and GsView, two (linked) programs that you can get from various magazine cover disks or a quick search on Google should give you a URL. Install Ghostscript and GSView (The graphical interface) and add another line to your batch file, feeding the .ps file to GSView - mine is c:\gstools\gsview\gsview32.exe d:\temp\Out.ps then when you run your batch file against your abc file, your abc will be converted into PostScript and displayed on-screen for proof-reading or printing (you can print from GSView). One of the reasons I use Textpad for all my text-file work is that TextPad allows you to set up macros to external programs. I've got Macro 1 set up so that the file currently on-screen is fed to my abcm2ps batch file, so all I have to do to process the file in abcm2ps and display the results in GSView is hit ctl1. Other Windows text editors allow similar functionality of course. Good luck, hope this helps! Oh one final thing - GhostScript and GSView, in my experience, get very upset and fail to work properly if you don't install them in the default c:\gstools directory, so just go with that if I were you ... -- Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial, the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
I have been using ABC2win and found it inadequate for transcribing songs or choral music so I downloaded John Atcherly's ABC2ps program, but can't figure out how to get at it. The instructions seem to assume that you have done things they don't need to tell you about. I assume that this is a DOS program, but I'm not sure which files need to opened and in what order to get it up and running. Any help? A. O. Gutierrez Jamestown, RI To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on your computer (assuming you're running windows). I've never tried to do this (I'm running linux), but I believe it ends up being a DOS thing, i.e. run from the command prompt. I think all you have to do is compile the actual main program abc2ps.c, which makes the executable you'll need (abc2ps.exe on windows). Apart from that info, I don't think there's anything else I can tell you. -Chris Portsmouth, RI! (Right over the bridge!)A. O. Gutierrez wrote: I have been using ABC2win and found it inadequate for transcribing songs or choral music so I downloaded John Atcherly's ABC2ps program, but can't figure out how to get at it. The instructions seem to assume that you have done things they don't need to tell you about. I assume that this is a DOS program, but I'm not sure which files need to opened and in what order to get it up and running. Any help? A. O. Gutierrez Jamestown, RI To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
Thanks Chris. I'll give it a shot. Do play? If so, what kinds of stuff. I do Irish on fiddle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-abcusers;argyll.wisemagic.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Myers Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on your computer (assuming you're running windows). I've never tried to do this (I'm running linux), but I believe it ends up being a DOS thing, i.e. run from the command prompt. I think all you have to do is compile the actual main program abc2ps.c, which makes the executable you'll need (abc2ps.exe on windows). Apart from that info, I don't think there's anything else I can tell you. -Chris Portsmouth, RI! (Right over the bridge!)A. O. Gutierrez wrote: I have been using ABC2win and found it inadequate for transcribing songs or choral music so I downloaded John Atcherly's ABC2ps program, but can't figure out how to get at it. The instructions seem to assume that you have done things they don't need to tell you about. I assume that this is a DOS program, but I'm not sure which files need to opened and in what order to get it up and running. Any help? A. O. Gutierrez Jamestown, RI To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
I used the following link to get a windows executable of abc2ps...it's from Michael Methfessel's home page http://www.ihp-ffo.de/~msm/abc_src/ABC2PS-1.3.3.EXE somehow I have a teensy weensy newer version 1.3.3a on my computer, that came in a zip file, but I have no idea where I got it from... http://freshmeat.net/redir/abcm2ps/18668/url_zip/abcm2ps-3.1.13.zip I think is the link for abcm2ps um, yes, I am curious...how does one compile a c program in windows? run from the command line? Does one need a compiler? 11/15/02 3:39:52 PM, Christopher Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on your computer (assuming you're running windows). I've never tried to do this (I'm running linux), but I believe it ends up being a DOS thing, i.e. run from the command prompt. I think all you have to do is compile the actual main program abc2ps.c, which makes the executable you'll need (abc2ps.exe on windows). Apart from that info, I don't think there's anything else I can tell you. -Chris Portsmouth, RI! (Right over the bridge!)A. O. Gutierrez wrote: I have been using ABC2win and found it inadequate for transcribing songs or choral music so I downloaded John Atcherly's ABC2ps program, but can't figure out how to get at it. The instructions seem to assume that you have done things they don't need to tell you about. I assume that this is a DOS program, but I'm not sure which files need to opened and in what order to get it up and running. Any help? A. O. Gutierrez Jamestown, RI To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- Christopher Myers, Graduate Software Developer Ingenta, Inc. 12 Bassett St. Providence, RI 02903 ph: 401.331.2014 x 102 em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: chrismyers001 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
http://freshmeat.net/redir/abcm2ps/18668/url_zip/abcm2ps-3.1.13.zip I think is the link for abcm2ps um, yes, I am curious...how does one compile a c program in windows? run from the command line? Does one need a compiler? Yes, you most definately do. MicroShaft do one as does Borland. I currently use Power C from www.mixsoftware.com (it is very inexpensive and small). But be warned - you are getting yourself into a very technical area that will slurp your time. Better to just practice your music instead. It is _so_ easy to get distracted with all this technical crapology. -- Joe Mc Cool Tangent Computer Research BT71 7LN (www.tangent-research.com) voice:(44)2837-548074fax:(44)-870-0520185 The more you say the less the better. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Lost in abcm2ps
abc2ps (and abcm2ps) assumes you have knowledge of how to compile C on your computer oh, you should probably use Abcm2ps, it's newer and better than the old abc2ps. Binaries and helps can be found on Guido Gonzato's website. I don't have the url here you can find it with www.google.com and probably also at : http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/ ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
