Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread Kevin Lawton




Don, 
You've got me a bit puzzled here. I've been using MusicTime for years
and had no problem exporting MIDI (.mid) files from it., or importing a
MIDI file to turn into a score.  What's the actual problem you're
having - just in case I'm able to help at all. 
Kevin. 
Don Parrish-Bell wrote:
Do I detect a bit of sarcasm there, Neil?
  
  
Ok, so one part of my problem is easily solvable by various means
(import a MIDI file to extract a workable source score), so my next
question for all of you is does anyone know of a program that will
record a MIDI stream that is being played through the sound card and
store it into a MIDI file.  Since Music Time seems too limited to
export a score into a MIDI-formatted file, this might be a solution.
  
  
thank you,
  
Don
  
  
  
At 11:17 PM 3/30/2004, you wrote:
  
  Oh yes, and if you find it useful, or are
impressed by it's facilities, PLEASE let us all know!

Thanks

Neil

  
  
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Thank you!   I hadn't even thought of that ... and yet it seems such an 
obvious thing to do.

We do have a Yamahi keyboard that should be able to do that.  I will give 
that a try.

Thanks again,
Don
At 09:50 AM 3/31/2004, you wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote:

> so my next question for all of you is does anyone
> know of a program that will record a MIDI stream that
> is being played through the sound card and store it
> into a MIDI file.
Connect your sound card to a keyboard that can record a
Midi stream onto a floppy disk.
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread Neil Jennings
No sarcasm at all, a genuine request for positive feedback.

I don't know of such a program, but might be able to write one. The only 
difficult point is finding out how to assign the data stream.
Once that is done, I can easily capture the MIDI events to a file.

At 06:29 PM 3/31/04, you wrote:
Do I detect a bit of sarcasm there, Neil?

Ok, so one part of my problem is easily solvable by various means (import 
a MIDI file to extract a workable source score), so my next question for 
all of you is does anyone know of a program that will record a MIDI stream 
that is being played through the sound card and store it into a MIDI 
file.  Since Music Time seems too limited to export a score into a 
MIDI-formatted file, this might be a solution.

thank you,
Don
At 11:17 PM 3/30/2004, you wrote:
Oh yes, and if you find it useful, or are impressed by it's facilities, 
PLEASE let us all know!
Thanks
Neil
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote:

> so my next question for all of you is does anyone
> know of a program that will record a MIDI stream that
> is being played through the sound card and store it
> into a MIDI file.

Connect your sound card to a keyboard that can record a
Midi stream onto a floppy disk.


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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-31 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Do I detect a bit of sarcasm there, Neil?

Ok, so one part of my problem is easily solvable by various means (import a 
MIDI file to extract a workable source score), so my next question for all 
of you is does anyone know of a program that will record a MIDI stream that 
is being played through the sound card and store it into a MIDI 
file.  Since Music Time seems too limited to export a score into a 
MIDI-formatted file, this might be a solution.

thank you,
Don
At 11:17 PM 3/30/2004, you wrote:
Oh yes, and if you find it useful, or are impressed by it's facilities, 
PLEASE let us all know!
Thanks
Neil
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Oh yes, and if you find it useful, or are impressed by it's facilities, 
PLEASE let us all know!
Thanks
Neil

At 10:32 PM 3/30/04, you wrote:
Ok, I installed your Harmony program.  I only had a few minutes to play 
with it, but I was able to convert a couple of midi songs to scores.

I couldn't figure out how to edit or add notes in this brief session, 
though.   Do you have documentation that is downloadable when you register 
this program?

Don

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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
There is a manual included in the download, a little out of date on the 
newer options but still valid for most.
There is also a comprehensive help file in the program - see the help menu
To edit notes, click on one with the RIGHT mouse button - you will get an 
edit menu which includes adding notes,
You can also copy & paste using the toolbar
The download is the full version, you just get an unlcok key for the 
program when you register
Regards
Neil





At 10:32 PM 3/30/04, you wrote:
Ok, I installed your Harmony program.  I only had a few minutes to play 
with it, but I was able to convert a couple of midi songs to scores.

I couldn't figure out how to edit or add notes in this brief session, 
though.   Do you have documentation that is downloadable when you register 
this program?

Don

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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread MCPearce0



You could download the current demo from
 
http://www.gvox.com/
 
(about 6Mb). I didn't look at the the demo, but if it's fully 
featured, you may be able to export your files to some stable format.
 
Mick


Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Ok, I installed your Harmony program.  I only had a few minutes to play 
with it, but I was able to convert a couple of midi songs to scores.

I couldn't figure out how to edit or add notes in this brief session, 
though.   Do you have documentation that is downloadable when you register 
this program?

Don

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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
At the moment, I think just getting MusicTime (I think we have 1.0!) to 
export a MIDI file (it will play back MIDI ok, though) is the issue.

I will see about getting a few files from home to send you.

I have no idea how popular this thing was, but my wife has written (or 
arranged) a bunch of stuff for her chorus that she wants to port to 
something newer.

I will check out your HARMONY program!

thanks,
Don
At 11:41 AM 3/30/2004, you wrote:
Have you tried importing the MIDI to my program HARMONY?
This can also write abc. (But is only available for Windows)
(download from www.greenhedges.com)

If I had the MT format to hand, or some sample files, I could probably 
write a direct import to HARMONY - would there be a large market for it? 
How widely used is Musictime? What OS does it use?
Neil

At 07:37 PM 3/30/04, you wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don 
Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
We have a very early version of MusicTime that is getting quirkier and 
quirkier as Windows "mutates".  It "sort of works" with Windows XP, but 
one more "downgrade" from Microsoft and it may be curtains for it.
Ah, great, another MT die-hard :-) My version of 2.0 still works fine on 
XP BTW.

The only MT -> conversion route I've found is save the file from MT as 
MIDI and put it through Midi2abc - but actually, I find the output from 
Midi2abc so much in need of editing that just retyping the tune in abc is 
usually far quicker :-)

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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you tried importing the MIDI to my program HARMONY?
This can also write abc. (But is only available for Windows)
(download from www.greenhedges.com)

If I had the MT format to hand, or some sample files, I could probably 
write a direct import to HARMONY - would there be a large market for it? 
How widely used is Musictime? What OS does it use?
Neil

At 07:37 PM 3/30/04, you wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don 
Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
We have a very early version of MusicTime that is getting quirkier and 
quirkier as Windows "mutates".  It "sort of works" with Windows XP, but 
one more "downgrade" from Microsoft and it may be curtains for it.
Ah, great, another MT die-hard :-) My version of 2.0 still works fine on 
XP BTW.

The only MT -> conversion route I've found is save the file from MT as 
MIDI and put it through Midi2abc - but actually, I find the output from 
Midi2abc so much in need of editing that just retyping the tune in abc is 
usually far quicker :-)

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http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial,
  the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Steve Mansfield
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don 
Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
We have a very early version of MusicTime that is getting quirkier and 
quirkier as Windows "mutates".  It "sort of works" with Windows XP, but 
one more "downgrade" from Microsoft and it may be curtains for it.
Ah, great, another MT die-hard :-) My version of 2.0 still works fine on 
XP BTW.

The only MT -> conversion route I've found is save the file from MT as 
MIDI and put it through Midi2abc - but actually, I find the output from 
Midi2abc so much in need of editing that just retyping the tune in abc 
is usually far quicker :-)

--
Steve Mansfield
Contact me off-list using lists AT lesession DOT co DOT uk
http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial,
  the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies
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Re: [abcusers] File Conversion

2004-03-30 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
We have a very early version of MusicTime that is getting quirkier and 
quirkier as Windows "mutates".  It "sort of works" with Windows XP, but one 
more "downgrade" from Microsoft and it may be curtains for it.

So, my question is does anyone on the list know of any software to convert 
MusicTime files into something that Finale or Cakewalk might be able to 
read and create an editable file?  Maybe there's some convoluted way to 
convert MusicTime into ABC and then back into something else?

Thank you,
Don Parrish-Bell
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