Re: [abcusers] Slides in fiddle music
That worked nicely, don't quite know why it didn't occur to me in the
first place. I have to say that my knowledge of postscript is nigh on
non-existent, but I did find that this worked:
% A downwards slide after the note, heavily based on /sld
%%postscript /dsld{M 17.2 -4.8 RM
%%postscript -1.8 -0.7 -4.5 0.2 -7.2 4.8 RC
%%postscript 2.1 -5 5.4 -6.8 7.6 -6 RC fill}!
%%deco dslide 1 dsld 20 0 0
Thanks for the pointer.
Guy
Calum Galleitch wrote:
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 19:24, Guy Gascoigne - Piggford wrote:
I'm using abcm2ps to typeset a piece if fiddle music that has slides
both up and down from various notes. I've found the !slide! annotation,
but was wondering if there is a matching down slide notation. More to
the point I would like to be able to put the down slide after the note
rather than only place it before the note. Can anyone suggest a way to
get this sort of annoatation in ABC?
If you know any PostScript, this doesn't sound too hard. You need to find the
name of the PS routine that draws the slide (might well be slide...use the
source, Luke), and wrap some code around it to redraw it upside down and to
the side...these are fairly simple operations in PS, though it's so long
since I've done it that I'm not confident in providing more details. If you
haven't already done so, get Guido's guide to ABC off abcplus.sf.net. It has
a section on adding your own PS decorations, which is how you'd include your
new code.
Cheers,
Calum
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Re: [abcusers] Slides
From: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 00:37:29 UTC And in my copious spare time, I'll try to fill in more rows for all the wonderful feechurz that people are implementing. There is a bit of a problem with trying to collect such info. There isn't enough time for one person to gather all the programs and test them all, at least not if you intend to spend any time playing music. Could you please add a section for !command!, as described in the draft proposed 1.7.6 standard? (Or is the document at http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/abc-draft.txt no longer under consideration?) I'm particularly interested in dynamics and their associated markings (crescendo, diminuendo, etc.), and I'm not aware of any existing abc-to-anything-else program that deals with them. (And I'm not enough of a programmer to write my own!) As a classical musician who occasionally plays folk, I personally find the absence of dynamics to be ABC's biggest limitation. As an aside, I play a lot of late-20th-century (and 21st-century) classical music. There are several unusual notations that have come into usage since the 1950s that are not (yet) implemented in ABC. I could mention them on this list as I run across them, if there's interest. I haven't, largely because the bother-to-worth ratio seems too high--these would serve a very small subset of the ABC community, and some of the notations would be difficult to define or implement in a plain-text system. Jeff Bigler To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Slides
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:43, Jeff Bigler wrote: I'm particularly interested in dynamics and their associated markings (crescendo, diminuendo, etc.), and I'm not aware of any existing abc-to-anything-else program that deals with them. (And I'm not enough of a programmer to write my own!) As a classical musician who occasionally plays folk, I personally find the absence of dynamics to be ABC's biggest limitation. I know that at least abcm2ps supports hairpins with !crescendo(!, !crescendo)!, !diminuendo(!, and !diminuendo)!, as well as dynamics with !ppp! through !fff! (probably !! and !! too). abc2midi supports the dynamics but not the hairpins. From my rusty knowledge of the MIDI file format, hairpins would be impossible (?) to implement on long notes, although it would be possible to adjust the dynamic level before each individual note to do (say) crescendos over harp runs. As an aside, I play a lot of late-20th-century (and 21st-century) classical music. There are several unusual notations that have come into usage since the 1950s that are not (yet) implemented in ABC. I could mention them on this list as I run across them, if there's interest. I haven't, largely because the bother-to-worth ratio seems too high--these would serve a very small subset of the ABC community, and some of the notations would be difficult to define or implement in a plain-text system. Well, I'd be somewhat interested; I have played a bit of such music, although not much. (Mostly the more normal modern composers -- John Adams, Alan Hovhaness, etc.). I think the ABC draft already includes some interesting things like snap pizzicatos, horn rasps, and so forth, which are at least early 20th century, so your additions may not be out of place at all. As others have said, those that don't need them don't have to use them. :) Certainly there are some very common modern notations such as durations of notes and rests measured in seconds, approximate notes (e.g. x noteheads), and others, that ABC does not have, but would be easy enough to implement (at least for notation programs). There are other notations from the 19th century (tremolos, either on the same note or between two notes, come to mind) that are also not implemented but would perhaps be more difficult, especially for player programs. [Phew. Please ignore the painfully awkward sentence construction in the above paragraph. Time change plus early church service will do that to one.] - Eric To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Slides
Jeff Bigler writes: | And in my copious spare time, I'll try to fill in more rows for all | the wonderful feechurz that people are implementing. There is a bit | of a problem with trying to collect such info. There isn't enough | time for one person to gather all the programs and test them all, at | least not if you intend to spend any time playing music. | | Could you please add a section for !command!, as described in the draft | proposed 1.7.6 standard? (Or is the document at | http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/abc-draft.txt no longer under | consideration?) I'm particularly interested in dynamics and their | associated markings (crescendo, diminuendo, etc.), and I'm not aware of | any existing abc-to-anything-else program that deals with them. (And | I'm not enough of a programmer to write my own!) As a classical | musician who occasionally plays folk, I personally find the absence of | dynamics to be ABC's biggest limitation. Yeah; I oughta do that. I've been thinking of generally merging in all the new and proposed extensions. It does take time to do such things, but it's probably worthwhile. The abc2ps clones do implement some of these things. Probably the most advanced (in some respects) is abcm2ps, Jeff Moine's clone. He also implements multiple parts on a single staff. I've been thinking of trying to merge his code with mine (jcabc2ps), which implements some different features such as extended endings and explicit key signatures. But this does take time. | As an aside, I play a lot of late-20th-century (and 21st-century) | classical music. There are several unusual notations that have come | into usage since the 1950s that are not (yet) implemented in ABC. I | could mention them on this list as I run across them, if there's | interest. I haven't, largely because the bother-to-worth ratio seems | too high--these would serve a very small subset of the ABC community, | and some of the notations would be difficult to define or implement in a | plain-text system. That is a problem. One of the ongoing quandaries with ABC is whether it should be extended to handle more types of music, or whether it would be better to just start all over with a more powerful notation. The latter has been done by the lilypond people, of course, and the MusicML people are working on solving all the world's music notation problems. What will probably happen is something in between. Things that aren't too hard to do within ABC's plain-text form will probably happen as implementers see the need. ABC has large enough user base to make this worthwhile. There are some fancy commercial packages that will do a lot more. But these do tend to have the problems of commercial packages: They use a proprietary format, and the files can only be exchanged with others who use the same software. I'd guess that music publishers are quite envious of this. Imagine if, when you bought a published piece of music on paper, you couldn't mail it to someone else because they wouldn't be able to read it on their music stand. Nobody has ever been able to do this with paper, but they can with computer files. Anyway, I'd suggest posting a few tentative messages on this list. Maybe there are other ABC users who would be interested. There are a lot of users who find ABC limiting and who would like to see it made more capable. Of course, to make things happen, you need to get a few programmers interested. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Slides
Atte wrote: | On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote: | Dave Musgrave asks: | | Hi! I'm a new ABC users (fiddle player.) Any way to annotate slides up = | | to a note? I'm using Jim Vint's program. | | Dunno about that program, but abc2ps has used J for this ornament for | some years. Are there any other programs that implement this? | | abcm2ps of course Yeah; that's not too surprising. I wonder if the other abc2ps clones all support it? For that matter, how many abc2ps clones are there these days? From time to time, I've looked around for information on what abc apps support which features. My table is still rather sparse. It's kept at: http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCfeatures.html If anyone has info about the blanks (or the non-blanks), I'd like to hear about them. And in my copious spare time, I'll try to fill in more rows for all the wonderful feechurz that people are implementing. There is a bit of a problem with trying to collect such info. There isn't enough time for one person to gather all the programs and test them all, at least not if you intend to spend any time playing music. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Slides
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, John Chambers wrote: Dave Musgrave asks: | Hi! I'm a new ABC users (fiddle player.) Any way to annotate slides up = | to a note? I'm using Jim Vint's program. Dunno about that program, but abc2ps has used J for this ornament for some years. Are there any other programs that implement this? abcm2ps of course -- l8er Atte To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
