Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer.
On 2024-05-15 08:17, Vivien Palcic wrote: I just tried Tab and Shift-Tab to no avail. On the contrary, I just got cells being added (which is the same as would happen in Microsoft Word). In my tests with NVDA running on Windows, a new row is only inserted when pressing Tab when the keyboard focus is in the last cell of the table, while otherwise navigation to the previous/next cell happens as expected. However, NVDA does not announce the newly focused table cell when navigating this way (while it does when navigating using the arrow keys, for example). The Orca screen reader on Linux announces this just fine when doing the same there. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer.
I just tried Tab and Shift-Tab to no avail. On the contrary, I just got cells being added (which is the same as would happen in Microsoft Word). Vivien On 14/05/2024 10:58 pm, Michael Weghorn wrote: On 2024-05-13 13:00, Jason J.G. White wrote: From memory, Tab and Shift-Tab move cell by cell. Someone more familiar with NVDA and LibreOffice might be able to explain what's happening with the NVDA table navigation commands. NVDA's own table navigation commands currently don't work with LibreOffice tables. I had a first look at that quite a while ago, and as far as I remember, implementing support for that would need work on both, NVDA and LibreOffice side. (I remember running into some issue in Writer core code as well back then, but didn't look further into it then.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer.
On 2024-05-13 13:00, Jason J.G. White wrote: From memory, Tab and Shift-Tab move cell by cell. Someone more familiar with NVDA and LibreOffice might be able to explain what's happening with the NVDA table navigation commands. NVDA's own table navigation commands currently don't work with LibreOffice tables. I had a first look at that quite a while ago, and as far as I remember, implementing support for that would need work on both, NVDA and LibreOffice side. (I remember running into some issue in Writer core code as well back then, but didn't look further into it then.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer.
On 13/5/24 03:43, Vivien Palcic wrote: I have the Navigator turned on, but this isn't helpful when trying to navigate within a table - eg between columns or rows etc. It just gets me into the table and NVDA reads off the whole lot, whereas I'm trying to get around within the table without affecting the contents, From memory, Tab and Shift-Tab move cell by cell. Someone more familiar with NVDA and LibreOffice might be able to explain what's happening with the NVDA table navigation commands. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Fwd: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer.
Hi, My apologies. I'm forwarding the below reply (minus extraneous headers), which was originally meant to go to the list. I only realised after sending it that the replies go to the sender, not the list. Vivien Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Shortcuts on a document opened in Writer. Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 14:00:42 +0800 I have the Navigator turned on, but this isn't helpful when trying to navigate within a table - eg between columns or rows etc. It just gets me into the table and NVDA reads off the whole lot, whereas I'm trying to get around within the table without affecting the contents, and the table navigation commands NVDA provides, are actually moving cells in Writer - eg Ctrl+Alt+up to move up within a column to previous row, Ctrl+Alt+down arrow to move down within a column to next row, are moving the cells in Writer, which I don't wish to do. Putting the document into Read-only mode is also no help, as I can't access it at all. Trying to assign a command in Writer has also just left me confused, even after consulting the online Help. I don't understand what category I'm supposed to even select in the Customise dialog if I were searching for and/or assigning a shortcut. Browse mode needs to be given far higher priority, I would suggest, and the benefits would flow on through other applications, as has already been alluded to in the tickets raised for this issue. Vivien On 10/05/2024 12:01 pm, Michael Weghorn wrote: On 2024-05-09 21:30, Jason J.G. White wrote: On 9/5/24 15:17, Gabriele Battaglia wrote: Hi. With NVDA, How can I use the key shortcuts to move along a writer document? Commands like H to jump over headers? I don't know whether this is supported - it isn't in Linux, which is the environment with which I'm familiar, due to LibreOffice limitations. However, I just use the Navigator in LibreOffice, and I don't miss the screen reader navigation commands. Having the feature as part of the application is better, in my opinion. NVDA's browse mode indeed currently doesn't work with LibreOffice, and would need work in both, LibreOffice and NVDA to make it a reality. Related tickets: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137955 https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8148 https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5453 As Jason writes, LibreOffice's own navigator can be used as an alternative for now. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
